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On 11/19/2020 at 11:35 AM, scaleface said:

Thats the way it is with me . I know about a dozen fresh brushpiles , a jungle  of little limbs with notches that jigs get wedged in .   The jig fall will fall on the other side but it wont go over the limb . Just trying to find the best shape to pull or pop them over . I  bought some 3/8th ounce SK Baby Structure Jigs , they look like a good shape .

My Trashmaster jigs were delivered last week and I used one yesterday. It is much more weedless than a conventional jig. I didn't get it hung up at all. You do have to get the hook through the craw, so it could cause a few more lost fish. I caught one on it. It also skips just as well as a conventional jig.

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On 11/19/2020 at 12:24 PM, Catt said:

I firmly believe a lot of hangups are Operator Error ?

 

Absolutely true! To me the only thing that really isn't is throwing it in grass where it's unavoidable. Often a T-Rig is better in these cases.

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On 11/19/2020 at 10:57 AM, ww2farmer said:

Texas rigs in general are less prone to snagging than jigs. The smooth transition from line to the bullet shaped sinker just catches on less stuff.

 

With jigs it's all about line tie placement/angles, and head shape. But even the best jig designed for the cover types your fishing is going to be more apt to get hung

 

My preferences for jigs are as such:

 

Wood and docks: I want a flat eye, bullet shaped head, with a slight flat spot on the bottom of the head. And no more than a 30 degree angle, but no less than a 20 degree angle. A zero degree line tie on a wood/dock jig has the annoying habit of pulling right into little nooks and crannys and getting stuck.  When you contact a branch, log, root system, dock post, hoist cable, cross member support, or any other number of things, the flat eye will keep the hook/head upright and not roll it over into the obstruction, and the bullet head will allow it to slip through small openings much better than a broader head. Vertical eye jigs are way way my prone to "wedging" in this situation for me, and I avoid them if I can.

 

Grass: The is where I want the vertical line tie, and also with the least amount of angle to the hook shank as I can get. Less than 30 degrees is best, and 0 degrees is perfect. Bullet shaped is also king here, not only for it's ability to slip in and out of the grass better, but also for the ability to "shed" loose grass your line picks up and slides down to the head of your jig. Rounder heads, and flat eyes often go into grass OK, it's coming out that they can be problematic, and I like maximum efficiency  when fishing grass. The less farting around I have to do wiggling jigs in and out of the grass, and picking stuff off my jig, the more presentations I can make per day and the more fish I can potentially put my offering in front of.

 

Rock: Football, flat eye, 30-60 degree bend, end of story.  Everything else wedges...bullet, round, arkie, and any other kind of hybrid head is in my exp, a waste of time.

 

I have no use for ball heads, arkie heads, hybrid heads (like the SK structure jig), pan shaped dock skipping heads that have become popular lately...at least for bottom/cover contact jigs. I do like some other types of jig heads for things like swimbaits, grubs, etc...but that's a different subject.

 

Those are just my opinions, YMMV.

 

On 11/19/2020 at 11:24 AM, Catt said:

What I look for in a jig is a smooth transition from the line to the eye & around the belly, which requires the eye (either one) to be slightly rolled forward. The reasoning is I want my jig to follow the line up to the cover & then slide over or through the cover smoothly. I want a quality brush/weed guard & a quality hook, both are more important to me than head design.

 

If I'm working a shoreline or offshore structure I do not switch jigs just because the cover changed; I can cast, swim, flip, pitch, or punch any style jig!

 

I firmly believe a lot of hangups are Operator Error ?

 

Working any lure though brush, timber, or grass is an art that requires may hours of experience.

 

One also must except the fact that regardless of lure selection hangups are going to occur.

Do you guys have any specific recommendations for jigs like name brand and style for that brand?  I like what you are talking about, it just be easier to check out and look at some of those jigs.  I am a visual learner type dude.  Thanks

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3 hours ago, Fishin Dad said:

 

Do you guys have any specific recommendations for jigs like name brand and style for that brand?  I like what you are talking about, it just be easier to check out and look at some of those jigs.  I am a visual learner type dude.  Thanks

 

I like Boss jig heads, high quality heads at a good price.

 

I use their "Finesse Flipping" jig for docks, and shallow water wood.

 

Their football heads for rock.

 

Their "Invader" head for grass

 

And their bullet head for a swim jig.

 

I make my own skirts, and using the Boss heads, I can have a top quality jig for way less than most mass produced ones.

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I haul my swim-jigs through some moderately dense milfoil and hydrilla all the time with few hang-ups.

 

Strike King Tour Grade.

 

Amazon.com : Strike King Tour Grade Swim Jigs Bait (Black Blue,  0.3125-Ounce) : Artificial Fishing Bait : Sports & Outdoors

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On 11/29/2020 at 7:31 PM, the reel ess said:

My Trashmaster jigs were delivered last week and I used one yesterday. It is much more weedless than a conventional jig.

 

 

☝️Trashmaster or Fintech Title Shot ?

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I go against the grain.  I use a football head jig in grass and in brush.  The large head pushes the grass away and pivots on brush.  No more hang-ups than with other jigs.

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These are the brush piles I am talking about . This is the tip of the iceberg and there are many more .They are a booger to get a texas rig or jig through . I understand that snags are inevitable but I can still minimize them .

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8 minutes ago, scaleface said:

These are the brush piles I am talking about . This is the tip of the iceberg and there are many more .They are a booger to get a texas rig or jig through . I understand that snags are inevitable but I can still minimize them .

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Buck brush Toledo Bend ?

 

Ya don't fish the edges, ya flipping-n-pitching in it!

 

 

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I'd say it depends on what you're getting hung up on.  What works well for rocks, won't work as well for stumps and grass.  What works for stumps, won't work as well for rocks and grass.  What works for grass, won't work as well for rocks and stumps, and even some types of grass.  That's kind of why they make so many different types of jig heads.  

 

Besides the type of jig, you also have to adjust how you retrieve it through the cover.  If you can rip it through the grass, I'll fish a lot more aggressively.  If it's something like wood and brush, I'll retrieve it a little more gingerly, so I don't get it wedged in place.  That way, I can let some slack in the line and have it slide out, and give it another hop to get free.  In rocks, I'll hop it more than slide it.  If it's thick grass, that I can't rip it through, then I'll try to find pathways through it or fish the edges.  

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Nichol's Mango has been my GoTo for veges and wood. Even doubles as a slop bait. Only drawback is they are known to LDR a few fish.

 

Patrick Sebile claims to have alleviated this issue with his new Band of Anglers Waterbull Jig. Haven't tried it. Not sure it's out yet.

 

Recently picked up some Title-Shots but haven't tried them yet.

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On 12/2/2020 at 1:01 PM, txchaser said:

 

 

☝️Trashmaster or Fintech Title Shot ?

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I love the title shot jig. I've been fishing hula grubs on them for the last couple of years and found them to be as snagless as anything, but still hook up well on strikes.

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On 11/19/2020 at 2:27 PM, the reel ess said:

But a T rig is more difficult to skip. And I've caught a few big bass that were out of reach if you couldn't skip back there.

 Peg that weight so when it hits weight cant slide back and run your skip

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14 minutes ago, Teal said:

 Peg that weight so when it hits weight cant slide back and run your skip

I do. The jig still skips much better for me. If you can skip T rigs you're a better skipper than I (you probably are). ?

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Dirty Jigs No-Jack Swim Jig

 

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I had good luck hopping the 6th sense divine swim jig through grass earlier this year. It comes through quite well and has a flat bottom. I am liking the skinny bear pro signature jig for most everything else. Haven't thrown another jig that comes across wood as well. Siebert's sniper jig has worked great too, though,

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My title is misleading . Weedless and snagless gets cross up a lot . It should have read "Most snagless." 

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These.  They are custom made and are a cross between a shaky head and a TrashMaster.  SS Custom Jigs on FB.  Dude's name is Stacy and he can make anything you want.  Any color, and most any weight.  I don't get anything from him but he sure does get my money when it comes time to needing jigs, Chatterbaits, hair jigs, or spinner baits.

 

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12 hours ago, Jaderose said:

These.  They are custom made and are a cross between a shaky head and a TrashMaster.  SS Custom Jigs on FB.  Dude's name is Stacy and he can make anything you want.  Any color, and most any weight.  I don't get anything from him but he sure does get my money when it comes time to needing jigs, Chatterbaits, hair jigs, or spinner baits.

 

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I shoulda said that I don't get any compensation from him or anything for mentioning his stuff.  He's just a guy that makes very good stuff for a very nice price.  You can see by the 2 on the lower right that if you can think it, he will make it.  Those were my attempts to make a jig in the same colors as a chrome/blue and chrome/black rattle trap.  They turned out great and they DID catch fish on bluebird days hopping them across shallow flats.  Just like I thought they would!

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