Southern vs Northern lures.

[gall]

I mean I've caught bass in Florida on a ned rig granted it's more color choice then bait. I mean honestly maybe cause I target smallmouth the most in rivers and creeks but I feel like a tube would fall under the whole northern even though I know that's not the case.

 

[Mr. Aquarium]

More like technique. Like chase shad into back creeks in the fall.  No shad up here.  Their cold water  spring and fall season are much different.    When I look up winter fishing. They are most likely talking about shad schools and water that reaches 45 ish,  my water freezes.  
 Not many reservoirs up here. No suspend bass over 100 Feet of water.    

[soflabasser]

Any person that has bass fished several states knows that bass will hit any lure that is presented well. 

[TnRiver46]

8 hours ago, soflabasser said:

Any person that has bass fished several states knows that bass will hit any lure that is presented well. 

I don’t know, I’ve been presenting a whopper plopper quite well for the last couple years with no fish 

[Vilas15]

On 11/4/2020 at 10:20 AM, DitchPanda said:

Another thing that was hyper regional that has spread is the damiki rig. Guys have been using that in places like Cherokee lake for a long time...I've seen guys using them up here in Iowa for smallmouth in late fall and early spring.

 

Guys have been vertical jigging a minnow on a jig head for decades. Somebody uses a plastic and targets bass and all of a sudden it gets a new name? There's almost nothing new is the world of fishing lures, just slight variations to the old stuff that most people have forgotten about. Or it's adaptations from baits commonly used for other species. That's why most every bait that works somewhere works everywhere else.

 

If you want to get ahead of the game and come out with the hot new bait/technique I'd look out for snapping jiggin raps for bass instead of walleye, and maybe downsized versions of a flaptail or hawg wobbler (both musky topwater baits). The whopper plopper is only a small version of the many prop baits that already existed for quite a while.

 

I think the biggest variations come from color choice as mentioned before (perch vs. shad), natural lakes vs reservoirs,  and the popularity of certain baits due to different seasons. You'll get a lot more use out of a blade bait in cold water in the north than down south where 60 degrees is considered cool. Where I fish we may touch 80 degree surface temps for a few days in the summer.

[soflabasser]

A Rebel crawfish is lure Northerners use for river fishing and I have caught bass with them in South Florida. The Ned rig is another lure that catches fish in both Northern and Southern waters. 

[billmac]

1 hour ago, Vilas15 said:

Guys have been vertical jigging a minnow on a jig head for decades. Somebody uses a plastic and targets bass and all of a sudden it gets a new name?

I feel the same way about dropshot.  I've used it since I was a kid, but with nightcrawlers.

 

I never really thought there were lures that would catch fish in one region that wouldn't catch fish in another.  I was more thinking about lures or techniques that just haven't caught on in certain regions.

[DitchPanda]

2 hours ago, Vilas15 said:

 

Guys have been vertical jigging a minnow on a jig head for decades. Somebody uses a plastic and targets bass and all of a sudden it gets a new name? There's almost nothing new is the world of fishing lures, just slight variations to the old stuff that most people have forgotten about. Or it's adaptations from baits commonly used for other species. That's why most every bait that works somewhere works everywhere else.

 

If you want to get ahead of the game and come out with the hot new bait/technique I'd look out for snapping jiggin raps for bass instead of walleye, and maybe downsized versions of a flaptail or hawg wobbler (both musky topwater baits). The whopper plopper is only a small version of the many prop baits that already existed for quite a while.

 

I think the biggest variations come from color choice as mentioned before (perch vs. shad), natural lakes vs reservoirs,  and the popularity of certain baits due to different seasons. You'll get a lot more use out of a blade bait in cold water in the north than down south where 60 degrees is considered cool. Where I fish we may touch 80 degree surface temps for a few days in the summer.

So just because something is similar its not supposed to get a name? We should change the name of the damiki rig to the hey its the walleye rig thing but with a plastic minnow for bass?

[Vilas15]

2 hours ago, DitchPanda said:

So just because something is similar its not supposed to get a name? We should change the name of the damiki rig to the hey its the walleye rig thing but with a plastic minnow for bass?

Not every variation on a jig and plastic needs a name. But then again how are the rod companies supposed to sell us a damiki specific rod?

[DitchPanda]

25 minutes ago, Vilas15 said:

Not every variation on a jig and plastic needs a name. But then again how are the rod companies supposed to sell us a damiki specific rod?

There is definitely a marketing gimmick to it no doubt. But lets take the Ned rig for example...to me its about quick reference. If you say Ned rig I instantly know its a small stickbait or something similar on a small jighead. Easier to say Ned rig than me saying yeah I caught them on a small mushroom style jighead with a half of a zinkerz on it.

[Bankc]

15 hours ago, billmac said:

I feel the same way about dropshot.  I've used it since I was a kid, but with nightcrawlers.

 

I never really thought there were lures that would catch fish in one region that wouldn't catch fish in another.  I was more thinking about lures or techniques that just haven't caught on in certain regions.

In the pre-internet days, I think that existed.  But today, I think things tend to quickly spread across the world, so much so, that region specific techniques are largely a thing of the past.  

 

The only region specific technique around here is noodling.  And even that spread beyond Oklahoma.  But due to various factors like being willing to drown yourself, loose a finger to a snapping turtle, or ruining your best sleeveless shirt, I think it's going to remain primarily an Okie thing.   

[Finessegenics]

51 minutes ago, Bankc said:

In the pre-internet days, I think that existed.  But today, I think things tend to quickly spread across the world, so much so, that region specific techniques are largely a thing of the past.  

 

The only region specific technique around here is noodling.  And even that spread beyond Oklahoma.  But due to various factors like being willing to drown yourself, loose a finger to a snapping turtle, or ruining your best sleeveless shirt, I think it's going to remain primarily an Okie thing.   

Very good point about the internet. I think that is the answer here.

 

Beforehand, the only way a regional technique/lure would have the potential catch on nationwide was if it was in Bassmaster magazine or on one of the popular outdoor shows. Or if a big tournament was won with it by a pro.  I see how in those days there could have been northern vs southern vs western lures. 
 

You guys should listen to BTL’s show from Wednesday. They covered this when a viewer called and asked if they had the feeling that the YouTube fishing craze was taking away sponsorship dollars from tournament anglers. It was good stuff.