Tackleholic Posted October 28, 2020 Posted October 28, 2020 I'm a Daiwa reel fan, own about 20 of them. The next one I buy will be used only for long casts with deep diving cranks. I would like to hear from others what they know, from experience, to be the best Daiwa reel for this application. 1 Quote
Hook2Jaw Posted October 28, 2020 Posted October 28, 2020 I've got a Daiwa Tatula 150 5:1, backed with braid to two cast lengths of 12# fluorocarbon. I did what limited tweaking I could to the reel, at first running the spool bearing completely stock. That wasn't a long enough cast for my taste. Running them completely dry got me more distance, but I also got more nests from a very fast spool. One drop of oil proved to be the sweet spot between control and speed, and it'll now throw a ¾-2 ounce crankbait 50 yards, give or take. I'm sure there are better Daiwa reels for deep cranking, but the 150 has me pretty pleased. It's a solid little performer out the box, and even better once tweaked. YMMV, as everyone here says. 1 Quote
Super User PhishLI Posted October 28, 2020 Super User Posted October 28, 2020 Daiwa Catalina TW 100. It's not touchy and a real bomber. Super smooth cranker. Comes in a 4.9:1. Clocks in at 8.1 ozs with a full spool of mono. 1 Quote
Super User new2BC4bass Posted October 28, 2020 Super User Posted October 28, 2020 I own 20 some models of Daiwa casting reels, but the Catalina isn't one of them. I have read before that it is a very long casting reel. Hook2Jaw, have you measured your casts? I would think you should be able to make at least 60 yards with those weights. I had 40# Sufix Performance on my Gen1 STX. Box says it holds 140 yards of 12# line. Sufix Performance is equivalent to 10# mono. I spool to the lip. Couldn't say how much backing of 12# mono. 3/4 oz. spoon on a 7' MHF unloaded half a spool or slightly more on some casts. Still had some braid on the spool before getting to the backing. Not bragging. I have read of guys casting lighter weights than that emptying the spool. No way in the world will I ever be able to do that. I'd have to admit to having a little below average casting ability. Quote
Crackintubes Posted October 29, 2020 Posted October 29, 2020 Catalina Tw or steez A crazy cranker. Quote
BoatSquirrel Posted October 29, 2020 Posted October 29, 2020 Mr. Hook2Jaw is correct again. The Tatula 150 is a beast. You could even go with a 200 which is capable of throwing everything up to mid sized glide baits. Either size, both are excellent reels. 1 Quote
Super User king fisher Posted October 29, 2020 Super User Posted October 29, 2020 I am happy with the Coastal 200 for deep cranks Quote
Hook2Jaw Posted October 29, 2020 Posted October 29, 2020 12 hours ago, new2BC4bass said: I own 20 some models of Daiwa casting reels, but the Catalina isn't one of them. I have read before that it is a very long casting reel. Hook2Jaw, have you measured your casts? I would think you should be able to make at least 60 yards with those weights. I had 40# Sufix Performance on my Gen1 STX. Box says it holds 140 yards of 12# line. Sufix Performance is equivalent to 10# mono. I spool to the lip. Couldn't say how much backing of 12# mono. 3/4 oz. spoon on a 7' MHF unloaded half a spool or slightly more on some casts. Still had some braid on the spool before getting to the backing. Not bragging. I have read of guys casting lighter weights than that emptying the spool. No way in the world will I ever be able to do that. I'd have to admit to having a little below average casting ability. Yes, I've measured my casts. I get more distance with spoons than cranks, and could probably reach a long ways. For the time being, I'm happy with hitting 50 yards with big, air catching crankbaits. Quote
Super User new2BC4bass Posted October 29, 2020 Super User Posted October 29, 2020 2 hours ago, evo2s197 said: Steez A Crazy Cranker is the "ONE". I didn't know there was a Crazy Cranker in the Steez line. Quote
snake95 Posted January 18, 2021 Posted January 18, 2021 On 10/28/2020 at 10:30 PM, Crackintubes said: Catalina Tw or steez A crazy cranker. On 10/28/2020 at 3:11 PM, PhishLI said: Daiwa Catalina TW 100. It's not touchy and a real bomber. @Crackintubesand @PhishLI I also got one of the Catalina TW JDM's in the 4.9:1 that TTT was selling early in 2020 and for various reasons it has sat in the box. Can you guys weigh in on what the line capacity is relative to other low profile cranking reels? It says it holds about 150 yds of 50 lb test braid. I assume this means Daiwa's J-braid, which would be 0.36 mm = same diameter as 12 lb test mono per Daiwa or 14 lb Trilene XL. The Revo Winch Gen 4 has a capacity of roughly140 yds of 14 lb test mono. To summarize, it should have line capacity about equivalent to that of a Revo winch. Does that sound about right to you? More importantly, what are you using it for? Shallow or deep cranking? Thanks guys! Quote
Crackintubes Posted January 18, 2021 Posted January 18, 2021 (edited) It definitely doesn't hold 150 yards of 50lb. It's supposed to hold 150 meters of PE 2.0, which is normally about .235mm or so, which equates to about .010 inches. Might be closer to .009 actually. Too lazy to break out the calipers haha. So that would be roughly 164 yards of .010 line give or take. I think that was a misprint or a miscommunication somewhere on the 50lb part. I use either 20lb cortland braid which is .010 In. Or 30 lb which is .012 in. (Can't remember which I have on there.) There is easily more than 100 yards on there, which is more than enough for myself. I personally think the line capacity measurements are a bunch of crap anyway, from any manufacturer. I don't think I've ever got a stated line amount on any reel I've owned. It's always been in the ballpark, but not exact. YMMV I use mine for deep cranking, 8xd, 10xd, azuma Zboss, cloud c25, etc. Edited January 18, 2021 by Crackintubes Spelling 1 Quote
SproDD79 Posted January 18, 2021 Posted January 18, 2021 On 10/28/2020 at 3:11 PM, PhishLI said: Daiwa Catalina TW 100. It's not touchy and a real bomber. Super smooth cranker. Comes in a 4.9:1. Clocks in at 8.1 ozs with a full spool of mono. +1 on the Catalina, but if your willing to leave Daiwa, I just picked up a Curado 201PG(5:1). It's a great caster, super smooth and in my opinion,much more comfortable to palm/grip as opposed to the Catalina. Quote
snake95 Posted January 18, 2021 Posted January 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Crackintubes said: There is easily more than 100 yards on there, which is more than enough for myself. I personally think the line capacity measurements are a bunch of crap anyway, from any manufacturer. I don't think I've ever got a stated line amount on any reel I've owned. It's always been in the ballpark, but not exact. YMMV I use mine for deep cranking, 8xd, 10xd, azuma Zboss, cloud c25, etc. Interesting, thanks. I mostly use mono or YZH for cranking, and wondering if the Catalina was a mistake from that perspective. It seems like a beauty of a reel, but with lower spool capacity than a lot of folks would like for cranking. Quote
Crackintubes Posted January 18, 2021 Posted January 18, 2021 It should still hold plenty whether you're using mono, braid, fluoro, copoly, what have you. There's always the option of dropping a different spool into as well. 1 Quote
snake95 Posted January 18, 2021 Posted January 18, 2021 58 minutes ago, Crackintubes said: There's always the option of dropping a different spool into as well. That's a heck of a thought. (But thanks for the guidance which is more important anyway). If I wanted to find a different spool, can you suggest how to go about that? Quote
Crackintubes Posted January 18, 2021 Posted January 18, 2021 13 minutes ago, snake95 said: That's a heck of a thought. (But thanks for the guidance which is more important anyway). If I wanted to find a different spool, can you suggest how to go about that? Stock spool is 36MM. A Zillion TWS 36mm spool should drop right in, and have more capacity. However, not sure how it performs as ive never used it. Can also drop in a set of 36mm-34mm spacers and drop a steez a spool in. I've ran this setup before. Works well. I was running 18lb fluoro with bigger paddletails swimbaits with it. 1 Quote
Super User PhishLI Posted January 18, 2021 Super User Posted January 18, 2021 7 hours ago, Crackintubes said: I personally think the line capacity measurements are a bunch of crap Yup. Way off actually. Trickery. 5 hours ago, snake95 said: Interesting, thanks. I mostly use mono or YZH for cranking, and wondering if the Catalina was a mistake from that perspective. It seems like a beauty of a reel, but with lower spool capacity than a lot of folks would like for cranking. Originally I'd spooled my Catalina with .014 Sufix something or other copoly and mounted it on a 13 OB2 7'6" MHF. It's a heavy, not MH. Anyway, I was able to spool it down and stop it with two wraps remaining throwing a 1 oz Dark Sleeper. I've never casted anything so far, not even close. A moonshot. A sleeper at that weight is practically a lead casting plug. No billed bait with a huge air catching body to match will ever go as far. Unless you have a 9' crank bait rod perfectly matched to load with a specific crank bait and are a superhuman caster I doubt you'll have an issue with line cap. But, like SproDD79 said, the Curado is smaller. If you don't find the Tatula 150 comfy, you won't dig the Catalina as it has the same dimensions pretty much. I have both and it doesn't bother me in the least, but you're not me. Check it out first. Top to bottom: Curado K Lews Tournament Pro LFS Catalina TW Quantum Tour S3 2 1 Quote
Super User Columbia Craw Posted January 19, 2021 Super User Posted January 19, 2021 I’m running the Tatula 200 on an eight foot rod. I can cast as far as I would ever need to. Quote
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