New MLF record

[OCdockskipper]

While I am frugal (cheap?), I look at the cost of Senko's vs knockoffs in a different light.

 

If I am fishing a stick worm in a situation where the bite is a reaction bite or they are eating anything that moves, I may use a knockoff.  Not because I am trying to save money, but because my stickbait bag is so full, I'm trying to create space.  If I use up all of my Green Pumpkin/Amber laminate Senko's, I'll buy more.  When I finally use the last of the Green Pumpkin Berkeley Generals, I'm not replacing them.

 

If the bite is finesse based on the lure swimming slowly towards the bottom (like a small baitfish), I'll use a Sluggo or Fluke over a stickworm, they glide more than a weightless TRig stickbait does.

 

If the bite is finesse based on the lure wiggling on its fall to the bottom (like a crayfish), then it is a Senko 100%.  The other stickbaits don't produce that action that a Senko does & since I am trying to catch fish instead of save money, I'll use the best tool for the job.

[The Bassman]

On 10/24/2020 at 5:18 PM, MN Fisher said:

Once I run out of my Senkos and Stik-Os - I've already committed myself to getting ZinkerZ.

One thing to keep in mind. ZinkerZ float after the salt works out. Makes fishing them weightless a bit of a problem.

[RichF]

2 hours ago, roadwarrior said:

Why would you think hundreds of Senkos were left in the lake or bass stomachs? 

A few will be lost, but the number left in a bass would approach zero.  And is there

some reason the "best in the world" should not be fishing the #1 

Wasn't there a BR article put out not too long ago about finding plastics in the stomachs of bass? Regardless, we all know that wacky rigged senkos don't stay on the hook after a fish hits it and/or you fight it to the boat.  Saw plenty fling off the hook during the show. Extrapolate that out....all but 2 anglers I saw were using them exclusively, and they caught quite a few over the course of the day.  Let's not forget it's multiple days.  I'm not sure if saying zero plastics left in fish is even close to accurate.

[bassguytom]

On 10/24/2020 at 12:55 PM, Finessegenics said:

The joke was about the senko's durability. It was in good fun, I think the senko is worth its cost. 

68 bass with 10 Senkos per bag it took 6.8 bags to catch 68 fish. 

[newriverfisherman1953]

Most of the other stick worms are “want to be” senkos. I’ll fish the real thing most of the time. Same with Rapalas. 

[roadwarrior]

53 minutes ago, RichF said:

Wasn't there a BR article put out not too long ago about finding plastics in the stomachs of bass? Regardless, we all know that wacky rigged senkos don't stay on the hook after a fish hits it and/or you fight it to the boat.  Saw plenty fling off the hook during the show. Extrapolate that out....all but 2 anglers I saw were using them exclusively, and they caught quite a few over the course of the day.  Let's not forget it's multiple days.  I'm not sure if saying zero plastics left in fish is even close to accurate.

Some bass have an affinity for soft plastics, that's true, but they generally pick them up off the bottom.

The point of the article was to discourage anglers from simply tossing used baits overboard.  Bass rarely

eat a plastic off a hook even though they try.

[DitchPanda]

Is it worth the cost for senkos? Depends on what you are trying to accomplish. I use senkos and several knock offs...for my mileage the only bait I've used that had performed even close to the yamamoto was the gambler ace. This is a debate as old as time...seen it on here millions of times. To me in my experience it boils down to what I've seen...are yamamotos expensive? Yes. Are they less durable than alot of others? Absolutely. Do they consistently out perform the other baits? No doubt in my mind. So if your out for a good time just having fun catching a few fish most baits will do. If your serious about catching them whether for fun or money...I'd bring the senkos. Just my observation.

59 minutes ago, roadwarrior said:

Some bass have an affinity for soft plastics, that's true, but they generally pick them up off the bottom.

The point of the article was to discourage anglers from simply tossing used baits overboard.  Bass rarely

eat a plastic off a hook even though they try.

This is something I've seen in a ton of YouTube videos and it drives me crazy. I also hate when your watching a jig video and the guy trims his weed guard over the side of the boat into the lake. Its not your lake...you wanna trash something throw crap on the floor of your house.

[RichF]

13 hours ago, roadwarrior said:

Bass rarely

eat a plastic off a hook even though they try.

Well then...they pull the senko off the hook, it sinks to the bottom, then they eat it from there.  

[Team9nine]

There have been quite a few studies done recently on plastic ingestion in bass. Overall, the amount and frequency is pretty low, ranging from 0-3.4% in the studies I’ve read. Additionally, and somewhat anecdotally, it is rare to see a soft plastic listed/found when diet studies have been done, a much more common research effort.

 

The other good news is that these studies have also found that the large majority of the time that ingestion occurs, the bass expels the plastic, typically within 7-14 days. It might temporarily slow feeding since the plastic doesn’t break down, but no long term effects have been noticed. As such, studies generally conclude plastic ingestion isn’t that big of a deal at the moment.

 

From a tourney standpoint, I’d be much more concerned over schedule timing, livewell holding and transporting/relocation, as well as the use of tools such as ‘floggers’ or even LiveScope as having a much greater potential for harm to the population. 

[jbsoonerfan]

Easy with the facts and science....

[ajschn06]

I bought a handful of packs of Senko's a few years ago.... I can't give those things away.  Next to worthless......

[Choporoz]

Best I can tell, Cody Meyer is sponsored by Strike King, not GYCB.  

So if he chose Senko (and won in record setting fashion) over Ocho....well....take that for what little it is worth 

[N Florida Mike]

On 10/24/2020 at 12:54 PM, WRB said:

68 bass...

so...around 68 senkos ?

15 hours ago, ajschn06 said:

I bought a handful of packs of Senko's a few years ago.... I can't give those things away.  Next to worthless......

I’ll take em!?

They may tear up but they catch fish for me!

[roadwarrior]

19 hours ago, ajschn06 said:

I bought a handful of packs of Senko's a few years ago.... I can't give those things away.  Next to worthless......

Put them in our Flea Market for free + postage. You will make someone very happy!

[ajschn06]

1 hour ago, roadwarrior said:

Put them in our Flea Market for free + postage. You will make someone very happy!

Putting together a box of stuff for my nephew... I'll probably throw them in there, maybe he can figure them out!

[BrianMDTX]

Compared to ammunition that’s gone once I pull the trigger, Senkos are cheap lol. I may lose a few, but they catch bass. 

 

‘Nuff said!

[OCdockskipper]

On 10/26/2020 at 10:05 AM, Team9nine said:

...The other good news is that these studies have also found that the large majority of the time that ingestion occurs, the bass expels the plastic, typically within 7-14 days...

 

As anecdotal confirmation of the above, I have caught bass that have spit up or were in the process of spitting up Senko's when landed.  Some of the Senkos looked like they had been sitting in belly acid as opposed to just water, completely discolored and very rough.  My hunch is they had them in their stomach for at least a few days.

 

I've also caught bass who were in the process of pooping Roboworms, but that is a different bait for a different thread.