Deep jerkbait

[OkobojiEagle]

By spring I'm going to buy a new jerkbait that will dive 9 - 10'.  I'm considering a deep Rerange, Pointer 100dd, deep KVD or possibly stretch for a Vision 110+1.  I'd like to read user opinions from this board about these, or any other baits in this class.  What I choose will share space in my box with Staysee 90s so you don't need to add that bait to my list.  Thanks in advance for serving up your opinions.

 

oe

[A-Jay]

SK KVD 300 Deep and the Megabass 110 +1 have Both been very good for me on early & late season Brown Bass. 

Had high hopes for the Megabass 110 +2 this season,

however, if it has some magic, I have yet to release it. 

A-Jay

[FishTank]

The Megabass Vision 110 +1 in Pro Blue has worked well for me.  I also like the 110 Magnum and the Max LBO.

[813basstard]

Can’t tell you how many I’ve caught on Berkley Cutter 110 in AYU color..crazy thing is you don’t have to wait until spring to buy one. They sell them..year round I’ve heard 

[BlakeMolone]

3 hours ago, A-Jay said:

SK KVD 300 Deep and the Megabass 110 +1 have Both been very good for me on early & late season Brown Bass. 

Had high hopes for the Megabass 110 +2 this season,

however, if it has some magic, I have yet to release it. 

A-Jay

Sort of unrelated but do you fish the 200 or the standard 300 much? How deep does the deep diver dive for you? I’m thinking about going crazy and picking up a bunch of these baits, I’ve never really fished jerkbaits and these baits seem like a good place to start

[A-Jay]

6 hours ago, BlakeMolone said:

Sort of unrelated but do you fish the 200 or the standard 300 much? How deep does the deep diver dive for you? I’m thinking about going crazy and picking up a bunch of these baits, I’ve never really fished jerkbaits and these baits seem like a good place to start

I do fish the 300 and it is a 5 foot runner for me.  

Do not fish the 200 only because I prefer the bigger profile projected by the 300.

A-Jay

[Bluebasser86]

On 10/22/2020 at 11:26 PM, BlakeMolone said:

Sort of unrelated but do you fish the 200 or the standard 300 much? How deep does the deep diver dive for you? I’m thinking about going crazy and picking up a bunch of these baits, I’ve never really fished jerkbaits and these baits seem like a good place to start

The 300 is one of my favorite jerkbaits. Agree with A-Jay, it gets to the 5-6 foot range. I don't use any of the 200 size because I have a lot of baits in that size range but not many of the bigger profile baits. The 300 has been one of my big fish jerkbaits the last few years since I started fishing them.

 

The MB 110+1 is one of the only MB baits I buy. They get as deep as I need them to without being too much work to fish and they really seem to get bit.

[BlakeMolone]

1 minute ago, Bluebasser86 said:

The 300 is one of my favorite jerkbaits. Agree with A-Jay, it gets to the 5-6 foot range. I don't use any of the 200 size because I have a lot of baits in that size range but not many of the bigger profile baits. The 300 has been one of my big fish jerkbaits the last few years since I started fishing them.

 

The MB 110+1 is one of the only MB baits I buy. They get as deep as I need them to without being too much work to fish and they really seem to get bit.

Do you primarily fish the standard 309 or the deep? I think I’m going to buy 2 each of the 300, 300 deep, and 200 and see how it works out! I believe you fish Oklahoma a bit?

[Bluebasser86]

11 minutes ago, BlakeMolone said:

Do you primarily fish the standard 309 or the deep? I think I’m going to buy 2 each of the 300, 300 deep, and 200 and see how it works out! I believe you fish Oklahoma a bit?

I only fish the 300. I have a deep 300 but haven't really used it yet. Our lakes in NE Kansas are mostly so shallow that it's not often I get a chance to use a bait like that.

 

I've fished a few lakes in Oklahoma; Grand, Spavinaw, Eucha, and Bixby.

[GoneFishingLTN]

On 10/22/2020 at 8:15 PM, A-Jay said:

SK KVD 300 Deep and the Megabass 110 +1 have Both been very good for me on early & late season Brown Bass. 

Had high hopes for the Megabass 110 +2 this season,

however, if it has some magic, I have yet to release it. 

A-Jay

What are your must have 3 colors for the sk kvd deep?

[A-Jay]

1 hour ago, GoneFishingLTN said:

What are your must have 3 colors for the sk kvd deep?

Clear Ayu for sure.

Yellow Perch does a ton of heavy lifting for me.

Then, bring in The Clown . . . 

A-Jay

[deep]

The 110+1 will hit 8' on 10# Tatsu. The 110+2 will go at least 10'-12' on the same 10# Tatsu, depending on the length of your cast. The KVD deep 300 size dives about the same depth (~10') as the Staysee 90SP v2, or slightly deeper.

 

What I like about both the 110+2 and the KVD deep 300 is I can work them like most shallower jerkbaits with jerks and twitches (as opposed to rips or pulls).

 

Other baits I like would be the Live-X Leviathan and the XD Pointer. Both would dive to at least 12' on 10# line, the XD Pointer dives even deeper. But they have looong bills.

 

Like @A-Jay, I had high hopes for the 110+2 too. I have caught a lot of fish on them, but nothing like the 110+1 or the KVD deep 300 bait.

[OkobojiEagle]

I have a XD Pointer 78... not very impressed with it (or I should say my success with it).

 

Thanks to all for opinions.

 

oe

[00bullitt]

I have been a die hard MegaBass Vision guy and have a large box full of them. Recently, I acquired a Jackall Rerange.

Caught ALOT of fish on it. Then I bought the Garmin LiveScope (Panoptix) and what I was able to learn was game changing. I can now verify the depth of my bait. So for crankbaits and jerkbaits, that became enlightening. And best of all, I could feed the fish how they wanted to be fed. I could alter my lure, presentation, color, etc and find what/how they wanted it.

 

I have caught fish on the Vision 110+2 before but nothing like the standard or +1. On LiveScope, they just don't react to the +2 like they do the +1. Color being equal, the fish will come up further to eat the 110 +1 which gets down to about 6-7' on 8# test fluoro. I can get to 10' if I throw it on 8# braid on my spinning rod. Plus I can cast it about 30' further and stay in the zone a bit longer and give me more distance to get to the target depth. I learned that out of curiosity. I had a spinning rod spooled up with Suffix 832 and new it was like 2# equivalent so wanted to see what the ultra thin line would do so I chunked it out there on one of my spinning outfits; a G. Loomis E6x 822SYR (6'10" Mag Medium). That thing flew FOREVERRRRR! 

Needles to say, I have started throwing my jerkbaits on my spinning rod and the action is actually perfect whereas I used a 6'8" Medium ExFast baitcaster rod before with 8# Fluro.

 

Anyway, the Rerange throws even further, than the Vision and has a different trigger effect on bass. Watching fish react on LiveScope is game changing. They tell you so much in real time. I bought the Rerange MR and a Squirrel also.

Both have caught many of fish. I have always liked the LuckyCraft Staysee Pointer 90 for my deep presentations as it would easily hit 10' on 8# Fluoro with minimal effort and the spotted bass where I am liked the smaller profile.

 

The Jackall Squirrel is like the Staysee and gets to about 9' with ease. Watching fish shoot up from the depths to attack a jerkbait on your screen is exciting. Keeping them on those itty bitty thin hooks is nail biting!

 

Livescope has changed my fishing forever now! Best investment I have ever made in fishing equipment!

 

Working top water over fish has been very enlightening as well. I can't see the lure on top, but I can certainly see the fish react to the bait and presentation. I can quickly tell you if they want it fast, slow or dead in the water and what kind of sound they prefer. I found some fish suspended in treetops. Trees were in 60' of water. Tree tops were about 12-13' below the surface. I threw crankbaits, lipless, swimbaits various topwaters and finally found them crushing a Strike King 2.5 Wake ripped over head. They ALL came out of the treetop....AT ONCE!. Talk about firing up a school. I was almost about to write them off as Crappie and leave. Several times they would come out of the tree to about 4-5' below the surface and linger under the bait but never commit. That 2.5 Wake ticked them the heck off! Thinking it was the sound as it was unique and could be heard a good ways from the boat. None the less, we caught them there for an hour straight, almost back to back until they dispersed into the trees.

 

Anyway, I typed all that to say, the Jackall Rerange, Rerange MR and Squirrel have REALLY gotten the fish's attention where I am in Georgia. Plus, they cast a freaking mile on spinning gear. While I won't throw out my Vision's, any new ones I buy will most likely be from Jackall.

 

Jerkbaits are one of those baits that I never threw much of. With the intel from Livescope, its game on now for every lure as I throw something at fish that I know are 100% there until they bite.

[A-Jay]

6 minutes ago, 00bullitt said:

I have been a die hard MegaBass Vision guy and have a large box full of them. Recently, I acquired a Jackall Rerange.

Caught ALOT of fish on it. Then I bought the Garmin LiveScope (Panoptix) and what I was able to learn was game changing. I can now verify the depth of my bait. So for crankbaits and jerkbaits, that became enlightening. And best of all, I could feed the fish how they wanted to be fed. I could alter my lure, presentation, color, etc and find what/how they wanted it.

 

I have caught fish on the Vision 110+2 before but nothing like the standard or +1. On LiveScope, they just don't react to the +2 like they do the +1. Color being equal, the fish will come up further to eat the 110 +1 which gets down to about 6-7' on 8# test fluoro. I can get to 10' if I throw it on 8# braid on my spinning rod. Plus I can cast it about 30' further and stay in the zone a bit longer and give me more distance to get to the target depth. I learned that out of curiosity. I had a spinning rod spooled up with Suffix 832 and new it was like 2# equivalent so wanted to see what the ultra thin line would do so I chunked it out there on one of my spinning outfits; a G. Loomis E6x 822SYR (6'10" Mag Medium). That thing flew FOREVERRRRR! 

Needles to say, I have started throwing my jerkbaits on my spinning rod and the action is actually perfect whereas I used a 6'8" Medium ExFast baitcaster rod before with 8# Fluro.

 

Anyway, the Rerange throws even further, than the Vision and has a different trigger effect on bass. Watching fish react on LiveScope is game changing. They tell you so much in real time. I bought the Rerange MR and a Squirrel also.

Both have caught many of fish. I have always liked the LuckyCraft Staysee Pointer 90 for my deep presentations as it would easily hit 10' on 8# Fluoro with minimal effort and the spotted bass where I am liked the smaller profile.

 

The Jackall Squirrel is like the Staysee and gets to about 9' with ease. Watching fish shoot up from the depths to attack a jerkbait on your screen is exciting. Keeping them on those itty bitty thin hooks is nail biting!

 

Livescope has changed my fishing forever now! Best investment I have ever made in fishing equipment!

 

Working top water over fish has been very enlightening as well. I can't see the lure on top, but I can certainly see the fish react to the bait and presentation. I can quickly tell you if they want it fast, slow or dead in the water and what kind of sound they prefer. I found some fish suspended in treetops. Trees were in 60' of water. Tree tops were about 12-13' below the surface. I threw crankbaits, lipless, swimbaits various topwaters and finally found them crushing a Strike King 2.5 Wake ripped over head. They ALL came out of the treetop....AT ONCE!. Talk about firing up a school. I was almost about to write them off as Crappie and leave. Several times they would come out of the tree to about 4-5' below the surface and linger under the bait but never commit. That 2.5 Wake ticked them the heck off! Thinking it was the sound as it was unique and could be heard a good ways from the boat. None the less, we caught them there for an hour straight, almost back to back until they dispersed into the trees.

 

Anyway, I typed all that to say, the Jackall Rerange, Rerange MR and Squirrel have REALLY gotten the fish's attention where I am in Georgia. Plus, they cast a freaking mile on spinning gear. While I won't throw out my Vision's, any new ones I buy will most likely be from Jackall.

 

Jerkbaits are one of those baits that I never threw much of. With the intel from Livescope, its game on now for every lure as I throw something at fish that I know are 100% there until they bite.

Welcome to the club ~ 

A-Jay

[OkobojiEagle]

So, how do like your Garmin LiveScope...

 

I appreciate your input comparing the Rerange baits with 110's and Staysee 90s

 

oe

[TnRiver46]

I like the deep shadow rap best for about 10 feet. I have a smithwick rogue perfect 10 but I never throw them for some strange reason. I only think to use them when I’m at home? I wish I could fish a deep jerkbait all the time but there too many floating grass clumps zipping down the river to use one right now 

[Frezzy]

When you guys fish the 110+1 do you fish it differently than the standard 110?  Are you jerking and twitching the 110+1, or giving it more subtle pulls?  I catch a lot of Smallies on the standard 110, but rarely get them on the 110+1.  And I fish a deep water reservoir as well where I am regularly casting into 20-40' from the bank so I would think the 110+1 would shine.  Maybe it's because I fish them both the same with a jerk, jerk, pause action. 

 

On a side note, I bought a 110+2 but it casts like crap compared to the standard 110, so I don't use it much.  Distance is critical for me casting from the bank. I use a 7'6" spinning rod with 8lb 832 to 8lb Tatsu leader.  

 

Also, the Jackall Rerange definitely casts a little better and runs deeper than the 110.  It catches for sure, but the 110 is still my go to JB.  Wish Jackall would provide some better translucent color options for very clear water.

[GoneFishingLTN]

On 10/25/2020 at 7:17 AM, A-Jay said:

Clear Ayu for sure.

Yellow Perch does a ton of heavy lifting for me.

Then, bring in The Clown . . . 

A-Jay

do you think clown is just as effective for largemouth?

[A-Jay]

8 minutes ago, GoneFishingLTN said:

do you think clown is just as effective for largemouth?

Yes 

But I will also say presentation depth, speed, profile and line size may be just as important as color / pattern.

A-Jay

 

31 minutes ago, Frezzy said:

When you guys fish the 110+1 do you fish it differently than the standard 110?  Are you jerking and twitching the 110+1, or giving it more subtle pulls?  I catch a lot of Smallies on the standard 110, but rarely get them on the 110+1.  And I fish a deep water reservoir as well where I am regularly casting into 20-40' from the bank so I would think the 110+1 would shine.  Maybe it's because I fish them both the same with a jerk, jerk, pause action. 

 

On a side note, I bought a 110+2 but it casts like crap compared to the standard 110, so I don't use it much.  Distance is critical for me casting from the bank. I use a 7'6" spinning rod with 8lb 832 to 8lb Tatsu leader.  

 

Also, the Jackall Rerange definitely casts a little better and runs deeper than the 110.  It catches for sure, but the 110 is still my go to JB.  Wish Jackall would provide some better translucent color options for very clear water.

I fish most all my deep jerk baits the same - 

In the cooler water it's a series of small 'pulls & a pause' follow by a slightly longer pause.

Notice I didn't say jerks.

Here's a couple of examples - first one early season, second one late season. 

A-Jay

 

[OkobojiEagle]

Comments suggesting a spinning rod for this and walking top-water are noted, however, either my technique or choice of line gives me problems with spinning.  I snap the line forward very abruptly not moving the bait very far, but then snap the rod tip back equally abruptly throwing slack line on the water as well as on my reel spool.  It may be my line choice of 10lb original Fireline, but I end with loose line on the spool and spilling off creating plenty of line knotting issues.  Fireline has too many positive traits for me to change lines, but keeping my thumb on a bait casting spool throughout the retrieve process proves more effective for me.

 

oe

[GoneFishingLTN]

On 10/26/2020 at 12:34 PM, A-Jay said:

Yes 

But I will also say presentation depth, speed, profile and line size may be just as important as color / pattern.

A-Jay

 

I fish most all my deep jerk baits the same - 

In the cooler water it's a series of small 'pulls & a pause' follow by a slightly longer pause.

Notice I didn't say jerks.

Here's a couple of examples - first one early season, second one late season. 

A-Jay

 

for jerkbaits in general do you only use a spinning rod when using a slient jerkbait because of weight?   Also how many jerkbait rods do you have rigged up ready to go 3? 2 med and one spinning? 

[A-Jay]

10 hours ago, GoneFishingLTN said:

for jerkbaits in general do you only use a spinning rod when using a slient jerkbait because of weight?   Also how many jerkbait rods do you have rigged up ready to go 3? 2 med and one spinning? 

I use both spinning & casting gear for jerkbaits but prefer spinning gear for superior distance casted and when I need to cast straight into the wind - sometimes it's both.

Either way, spinning geats a light 10lb braid mainline and Casting gear is 10lb FC - InvisX or Tatsu. 

Additionally, my reference for both types of gear revolves around kinesiology.

During jerkbait presentations, spinning gear is mostly a right arm/shoulder deal and with casting gear I am using my left arm to 'work the bait'.  By having a couple of each rigged, I can switch back & forth which helps me share & spread out the workload to both sides of my humanness. 

Pays off after 8-10 hours on the water and especially beneficial during 3 & 4 day pre-spawn marathons when I might not be in 'fishing' shape yet. 

A-Jay

[mcipinkie]

I'm an old timer, obviously, but the best deep, real deep, jerk bait I've ever thrown is an old Smithwick long billed Rogue.  I've still got a couple of old spoon billed Rebels also, but the Rogue catches more fish.

 

You have to weight the snot out them to make them suspend, but on a long cast, you'll need a 15' push pole to retrieve then when they hang up. 

Hard to cast, wants to tumble like a gymnast.  Comes through cover pretty well if you have soft hands.

 

I've had days when they out fished everything else in the boat, and I have all the new, pretty, high dollar models.

 

I assume they are still made.  I have a bunch so haven't shopped for them in years.