Super User ChrisD46 Posted October 20, 2020 Super User Posted October 20, 2020 Looking for a good all - around mono line in the specific line sizes / diameters above on a bait cast reel for : Top Water , Spinner Baits , Chatter Baits and Swim Jigs ? ... Decent handling , abrasion resistance , lower stretch and good knot strength are pluses . Locally available Mono / Co-poly lines I am considering : Sufix Advance Sufix Elite Sufix Siege P-Line C-XX Trilene Big Game Trilene XL Stren Original * Some lines above only come in #12 lb. , #15 , & #20 lb. sizes ... In that case the #15 lb. line size is what I would consider . Quote
Super User NYWayfarer Posted October 20, 2020 Super User Posted October 20, 2020 Out of the lines you mention I use, love and trust both Sufix Siege and Berkley Big Game. I highly recommend both lines. Quote
Hook2Jaw Posted October 20, 2020 Posted October 20, 2020 Big Game. That stuff might be the best deal in fishing. 2 Quote
Super User Hammer 4 Posted October 20, 2020 Super User Posted October 20, 2020 Choosing from the lines listed, I've been using Sufix Elite in camo. Line is very manageable and the camo blends in really well with the stained water I fish. I have 10# up to 17#. Quote
Fishingmickey Posted October 20, 2020 Posted October 20, 2020 I used 14# Berkely XL Clear/blue for many many years. Quote
Super User ChrisD46 Posted October 20, 2020 Author Super User Posted October 20, 2020 Thanks for the replies - While lines like McCoy Mean Green , Maxima Ultragreen , Sunline Defier are very good lines - I can't just walk in a local store to buy so at this time it looks like Trilene Big Game , Trilene XL and Sufix Siege will be on the short list as they are available locally . P-Line C-XX would be a good flipping / jig line ; their pound test ratings are odd as their #12 lb. is like others #15 to #17 lb. line diameter . Last comment is where does a mono like Sufix Elite fit in ? I see it on the shelf next to Sufix Siege - perhaps Sufix Elite better for treble hook lures or manageability in cold water ? Quote
Super User WRB Posted October 20, 2020 Super User Posted October 20, 2020 Hands down Sunline Defier Armillo Tom 1 Quote
Super User Catt Posted October 20, 2020 Super User Posted October 20, 2020 Berkley Big Game 15# .015 ? Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted October 20, 2020 Super User Posted October 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, WRB said: Hands down Sunline Defier Armillo Tom I use this for all treble hook presentations, but that is the only time I fish monofilament line. Quote
Super User WRB Posted October 20, 2020 Super User Posted October 20, 2020 Sunline Deifer Armillo line 11 lb test is .29mm / .0108 D 13 .30/ .0118D 15 .32/ .0125D 17 .34/ .0134D 19 .36/ .0142D 22 .38/ .0150D 25. 40/ .0159D Strong high abrasion resistance, smooth easy casting line. Tom Quote
Super User FishTank Posted October 20, 2020 Super User Posted October 20, 2020 1 hour ago, WRB said: Hands down Sunline Defier Armillo Tom 58 minutes ago, roadwarrior said: I use this for all treble hook presentations, but that is the only time I fish monofilament line. I would double down on both those statements. Armillo has been the best mono I have ever used. I rarely get mono to last a whole season and this stuff looks like it may last for two. I have fished 13lb heavily and it's still in good shape. Quote
Super User Bankbeater Posted October 20, 2020 Super User Posted October 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Catt said: Berkley Big Game 15# .015 ? What he said^^^ 1 Quote
Super User new2BC4bass Posted October 21, 2020 Super User Posted October 21, 2020 1 hour ago, ChrisD46 said: Thanks for the replies - While lines like McCoy Mean Green , Maxima Ultragreen , Sunline Defier are very good lines - I can't just walk in a local store to buy so at this time it looks like Trilene Big Game , Trilene XL and Sufix Siege will be on the short list as they are available locally . P-Line C-XX would be a good flipping / jig line ; their pound test ratings are odd as their #12 lb. is like others #15 to #17 lb. line diameter . Last comment is where does a mono like Sufix Elite fit in ? I see it on the shelf next to Sufix Siege - perhaps Sufix Elite better for treble hook lures or manageability in cold water ? Check out the TT review of Sufix Elite. Dry 12# broke at an average 20.22 lbs. Wet it broke at an average of 19.94 lbs. Diameter measured as specified on the package. Line is limp and as such has a bit more stretch than a harder line. Knot strength was great. It works well on spinning reels because it lays so well without trying to spring off the spool (according to the TT review). I've only used in to a baitcast reel. I put 12# Elite on my Zillion 50th Anniversary reel when I got it. Still resides there. Abrasion resistance shouldn't be as good as harder lines. I don't have to worry about that where I fish. 1 Quote
Super User ChrisD46 Posted October 21, 2020 Author Super User Posted October 21, 2020 1 hour ago, WRB said: Sunline Deifer Armillo line 11 lb test is .29mm / .0108 D 13 .30/ .0118D 15 .32/ .0125D 17 .34/ .0134D 19 .36/ .0142D 22 .38/ .0150D 25. 40/ .0159D Strong high abrasion resistance, smooth easy casting line. Tom *I may look into the Defier Armillo line when TW has their next sale ... Quote
Super User WRB Posted October 21, 2020 Super User Posted October 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, ChrisD46 said: *I may look into the Defier Armillo line when TW has their next sale ... Try the 15 lbs good all around line. I used the 25 lb for about 5 years for all my swim and glide lures from 1oz to 7oz with any issues. Tom Quote
jbrew73 Posted October 21, 2020 Posted October 21, 2020 Stren. I cannot find a nylon mono that line that I like better. From big game to defier, stren wins . 1 Quote
Super User Dwight Hottle Posted October 21, 2020 Super User Posted October 21, 2020 2 hours ago, WRB said: Hands down Sunline Defier Armillo Tom I used to use this but converted to suffix advance. It is superior in cast ability and very strong. It is thicker in diameter so 14 is like 17 & 17 is like 20 in the sunline Defier Armilo. The Advance is the best I have found. Quote
BlakeMolone Posted October 21, 2020 Posted October 21, 2020 Buy a spool of 12 and 15lb big game and some kid line and lure. You can afford to swap it out often if for some reason you want to go lighter or heavier one day. Big game has high memory but the kvd line and lure really helps. At first I chose big game because it was cheap but now I just use it because I know I’m not going to break off a fish if I have my drag set right and a fresh knot. Quote
michaelb Posted October 21, 2020 Posted October 21, 2020 I haven't tried all of the lines mentioned here, but at this point seem to be buying sufix lines (so 832 in braid) and of the monos, I do like Advance best overall. Elite feels and casts great, but is stretchy. Siege is really tough and strong, but does have memory (similar to, but maybe better than pline cxx). Advance handles pretty well and casts and fishes nicely (I am going to respool my reel that has advance, so after a season it did develop some memory; but that is also because I am running out of line). It seems like there are endless good choices and options on line though, and only so much time to fish. 1 Quote
waymont Posted October 21, 2020 Posted October 21, 2020 7 hours ago, GReb said: Mccoys mean green Every time. Most under rated line out there. 2 Quote
zell_pop1 Posted October 21, 2020 Posted October 21, 2020 Of the lines mentioned by the OP I like Siege. It is strong, casts for good distance and has good knot strength with the trilene knot. Use Elite if you need to use it on spinning, or you just like a more manageable line but with less abrasion resistance. Both lines are worth trying out. Now my .02 about Defier Armillo, it is like Siege but better and Defier Shooter is like Elite but better. Personally I like Shooter better than Armillo as it casts a little further. McCoys and Gamma are good copoly lines too. Quote
Hulkster Posted October 21, 2020 Posted October 21, 2020 Sufix Siege for me. with a palmor knot i can't break the stuff. it casts great too. It has the same diameter as Big Game (same as Elite also) Quote
Jermination Posted October 21, 2020 Posted October 21, 2020 p line cxx. never have any issues. also a really good line for night fishing Quote
long island basser Posted October 21, 2020 Posted October 21, 2020 11 hours ago, Dwight Hottle said: I used to use this but converted to suffix advance. It is superior in cast ability and very strong. It is thicker in diameter so 14 is like 17 & 17 is like 20 in the sunline Defier Armilo. The Advance is the best I have found. From your list this would be it. Excellent line! 16 hours ago, ChrisD46 said: Looking for a good all - around mono line in the specific line sizes / diameters above on a bait cast reel for : Top Water , Spinner Baits , Chatter Baits and Swim Jigs ? ... Decent handling , abrasion resistance , lower stretch and good knot strength are pluses . Locally available Mono / Co-poly lines I am considering : Sufix Advance Sufix Elite Sufix Siege P-Line C-XX Trilene Big Game Trilene XL Stren Original Quote
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