BassBlowup354 Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 So the general consensus today is still that 6.4:1 to 6.6:1 is ideal for squarebills. I have noticed though an uprise in high speed cranking. Between 7.1:1 and I’ve even seen even up to 8.1:1 gear ratios. I was thinking about getting a high speed reel because it’s easier to just slow down with a high speed reel than speed up with a traditional 6.4:1. Ive been looking at a Lew’s Speed Spool with a 7.5:1 gear ratio (The ipt is 1 inch faster than a 7.1:1 Chronarch MGL, basically identical in retrieve speed). I think there are more upsides to high speed gear ratios but I just want to get a general opinion first. Quote
PourMyOwn Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 I don't find it that easy to slow down. In theory it is, but for me focusing on slowing down is an every cast thing. I don't like it. 1 Quote
shimanoangler Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 Food for thought, if you really want to move a squarebill fast, most of your 3000 size spinning reels take in 36 to 38 inches per turn, and the 4000 get up to 39/40 IPT. I fish all squarebills on moderate to moderate fast action spinning gear when I am trying to "burn" a squarebill, and because of the greater line pick up, you aren't killing yourself cranking to make the bait move fast.... Quote
Super User jimmyjoe Posted October 7, 2020 Super User Posted October 7, 2020 Most of the squarebills I have CANNOT be burned or ripped. If they are, they either broach or become unstable and cant sideways. One of the things I always appreciated about squarebills is their tendency to not hang up, especially in riprap. Faster speed retrieves diminish that advantage. So for me, squarebills are one of the slowest-speed retrieve type of cranks that I have. Glad to hear you guys are having better luck than I am with high-speed retrieves. ? jj 1 Quote
Bass Rutten Posted October 7, 2020 Posted October 7, 2020 The squarebill was designed from day one back around ‘75 to be a high speed lure. Reel speed is personal preference, I prefer a 28ipt reel for cranking, currently using a curado 71hg. Quote
Dirtyeggroll Posted October 7, 2020 Posted October 7, 2020 I throw a squarebill with an 8.1 gear ratio reel and don’t try to reel slow. I catch a lot of fish on squarebills. Quote
PourMyOwn Posted October 7, 2020 Posted October 7, 2020 16 hours ago, jimmyjoe said: Most of the squarebills I have CANNOT be burned or ripped. If they are, they either broach or become unstable and cant sideways. One of the things I always appreciated about squarebills is their tendency to not hang up, especially in riprap. Faster speed retrieves diminish that advantage. So for me, squarebills are one of the slowest-speed retrieve type of cranks that I have. Glad to hear you guys are having better luck than I am with high-speed retrieves. ? jj I have the same experience. When I tried my 8.1 Fuego (33.9 IPT) my baits spun out unless I slowed way down. Those of you who burn your squarebills, what are you using? I have Rapala Crankin Raps and old Bagleys. Quote
Bass Rutten Posted October 7, 2020 Posted October 7, 2020 29 minutes ago, PourMyOwn said: Those of you who burn your squarebills, what are you using? Lucky crafts and kvd’s. If they’re running to one side tuning them is simple. I ditched tying direct and split rings long ago and use tactical angler clips and can’t even remember the last time I had one not run true. Tying direct can pull them off center. I believe the single wire of the clip in contact with the eye versus the two wires of split rings helps it track truer, it’s just my experience not saying its a fact. 2 Quote
PourMyOwn Posted October 7, 2020 Posted October 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Bassjam2000 said: Lucky crafts and kvd’s. If they’re running to one side tuning them is simple. I ditched tying direct and split rings long ago and use tactical angler clips and can’t even remember the last time I had one not run true. Tying direct can pull them off center. I believe the single wire of the clip in contact with the eye versus the two wires of split rings helps it track truer, it’s just my experience not saying its a fact. Thank you, I do tie direct and I don't discount the fact that I just don't see very well...especially for 10 pound mono. Quote
Super User jimmyjoe Posted October 7, 2020 Super User Posted October 7, 2020 6 hours ago, Bassjam2000 said: . I ditched tying direct and split rings long ago and use tactical angler clips AHA! ??? jj Quote
DomQ Posted October 8, 2020 Posted October 8, 2020 No matter how hard I try to slow down it will usually last 2-3 casts. I'll focus super intensely on reeling slow, then I hear a frog, bird or someone walking up beside me to fish and loose focus and start reeling normal speed again. Slower sleep and quick snaps are my go to for anything crankbait!! Quote
Super User Bankc Posted October 8, 2020 Super User Posted October 8, 2020 16 hours ago, DomQ said: No matter how hard I try to slow down it will usually last 2-3 casts. I'll focus super intensely on reeling slow, then I hear a frog, bird or someone walking up beside me to fish and loose focus and start reeling normal speed again. Slower sleep and quick snaps are my go to for anything crankbait!! I usually sing a song in my head and reel to the beat of the song. It helps to maintain a constant speed, and reproduce it later on. Change songs to change the speed. It's an easy way to slow down without having to think about slowing down. 1 Quote
Bass Rutten Posted October 8, 2020 Posted October 8, 2020 Well that explains why I start catching fish every time metallica comes on 2 Quote
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