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So the general consensus today is still that 6.4:1 to 6.6:1 is ideal for squarebills. I have noticed though an uprise in high speed cranking. Between 7.1:1 and I’ve even seen even up to 8.1:1 gear ratios. I was thinking about getting a high speed reel because it’s easier to just slow down with a high speed reel than speed up with a traditional 6.4:1. Ive been looking at a Lew’s Speed Spool with a 7.5:1 gear ratio (The ipt is 1 inch faster than a 7.1:1 Chronarch MGL, basically identical in retrieve speed). I think there are more upsides to high speed gear ratios but I just want to get a general opinion first.

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I don't find it that easy to slow down. In theory it is, but for me focusing on slowing down is an every cast thing. I don't like it.

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Food for thought, if you really want to move a squarebill fast, most of your 3000 size spinning reels take in 36 to 38 inches per turn, and the 4000 get up to 39/40 IPT.   I fish all squarebills on moderate to moderate fast action spinning gear when I am trying to "burn" a squarebill, and because of the greater line pick up, you aren't killing yourself cranking to make the bait move fast....  

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   Most of the squarebills I have CANNOT be burned or ripped. If they are, they either broach or become unstable and cant sideways.

   One of the things I always appreciated about squarebills is their tendency to not hang up, especially in riprap. Faster speed retrieves diminish that advantage.

   So for me, squarebills are one of the slowest-speed retrieve type of cranks that I have.

   Glad to hear you guys are having better luck than I am with high-speed retrieves.     ?     jj

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I throw a squarebill with an 8.1 gear ratio reel and don’t try to reel slow.

 

I catch a lot of fish on squarebills.

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16 hours ago, jimmyjoe said:

   Most of the squarebills I have CANNOT be burned or ripped. If they are, they either broach or become unstable and cant sideways.

   One of the things I always appreciated about squarebills is their tendency to not hang up, especially in riprap. Faster speed retrieves diminish that advantage.

   So for me, squarebills are one of the slowest-speed retrieve type of cranks that I have.

   Glad to hear you guys are having better luck than I am with high-speed retrieves.     ?     jj

I have the same experience. When I tried my 8.1 Fuego (33.9 IPT) my baits spun out unless I slowed way down. 

 

Those of you who burn your squarebills, what are you using? I have Rapala Crankin Raps and old Bagleys. 

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29 minutes ago, PourMyOwn said:

Those of you who burn your squarebills, what are you using?

Lucky crafts and kvd’s. If they’re running to one side tuning them is simple. I ditched tying direct and split rings long ago and use tactical angler clips and can’t even remember the last time I had one not run true. Tying direct can pull them off center. I believe the single wire of the clip in contact with the eye versus the two wires of split rings helps it track truer, it’s just my experience not saying its a fact.

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1 hour ago, Bassjam2000 said:

Lucky crafts and kvd’s. If they’re running to one side tuning them is simple. I ditched tying direct and split rings long ago and use tactical angler clips and can’t even remember the last time I had one not run true. Tying direct can pull them off center. I believe the single wire of the clip in contact with the eye versus the two wires of split rings helps it track truer, it’s just my experience not saying its a fact.

Thank you, I do tie direct and I don't discount the fact that I just don't see very well...especially for 10 pound mono. 

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6 hours ago, Bassjam2000 said:

. I ditched tying direct and split rings long ago and use tactical angler clips

 

   AHA!    ???     jj

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No matter how hard I try to slow down it will usually last 2-3 casts. I'll focus super intensely on reeling slow, then I hear a frog, bird or someone walking up beside me to fish and loose focus and start reeling normal speed again. Slower sleep and quick snaps are my go to for anything crankbait!!

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16 hours ago, DomQ said:

No matter how hard I try to slow down it will usually last 2-3 casts. I'll focus super intensely on reeling slow, then I hear a frog, bird or someone walking up beside me to fish and loose focus and start reeling normal speed again. Slower sleep and quick snaps are my go to for anything crankbait!!

I usually sing a song in my head and reel to the beat of the song.  It helps to maintain a constant speed, and reproduce it later on.  Change songs to change the speed.  It's an easy way to slow down without having to think about slowing down.

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