ajschn06 Posted October 5, 2020 Posted October 5, 2020 Made the switch to fluorocarbon on my jig pole both for increased sensitivity and decreased visibility. I have to say I have been disappointed in the sensitivity portion- did I get bad line? The only thing FF had in stock was Berkley Vanish and I went with 14 pound. I felt like I had more sensitivity when I was using a fluoro leader with braid (it was a daiwa leader) but I didn't like it catching going through the eyes. Quote
Super User Team9nine Posted October 5, 2020 Super User Posted October 5, 2020 Outside the ‘bad line’ jokes you’ll get with Vanish ? I’m guessing your spool of line is perfectly normal. Sounds like you made the mistake of starting with braid before using mono/copoly/fluoro, so there will be a relearning phase involved. Fluoro has better slack line sensitivity than braid, but not as good/much under tension. Stick with it and relearn the ‘feel’ of fluoro. 3 Quote
Super User jbsoonerfan Posted October 5, 2020 Super User Posted October 5, 2020 ^^^^^This guy is correct. When I switched from braid to fluoro on my jig rod I was very disappointed in the sensitivity aspect. Then I realized that if I were fishing in wind or in brush the fluoro actually outperformed the braid in terms of slack line sensitivity. I now have different set-ups with braid and fluoro based on the conditions I am fishing. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted October 5, 2020 Super User Posted October 5, 2020 Vanish is probably the worst fluorocarbon on the market. 2 1 Quote
Hewhospeaksmuchbull Posted October 5, 2020 Posted October 5, 2020 29 minutes ago, ajschn06 said: Made the switch to fluorocarbon on my jig pole both for increased sensitivity and decreased visibility. I have to say I have been disappointed in the sensitivity portion- did I get bad line? The only thing FF had in stock was Berkley Vanish and I went with 14 pound. I felt like I had more sensitivity when I was using a fluoro leader with braid (it was a daiwa leader) but I didn't like it catching going through the eyes. Same here, with seaguar invisx. Literally felt dead. No help with sensitivity compared to braid, stretched horribly compared to braid, cost twice what powerpro does. Lost three jigs that I wouldn't have if I's stuck to braid. The one positive, it handled much better than expected. I now have 200 yards of leader material. Quote
ajschn06 Posted October 5, 2020 Author Posted October 5, 2020 26 minutes ago, roadwarrior said: Vanish is probably the worst fluorocarbon on the market. Thanks, that's kind of what I was wondering! I did like some things about it, but I can struggle to detect those subtle bites- if it's a downgrade from braid in the sensitivity department it's no good for me. What would your recommend for a good fluoro in terms of sensitivity and handling? Quote
Russ E Posted October 5, 2020 Posted October 5, 2020 As mentioned vanish is about the worst fluorocarbon line you can buy. Sunline sniper is my favorite. it is pretty sensitive and has limited stretch. Tatsu is great but extremely expensive. Invisx is not bad, but stretches a little more. Suffix advance is great line, but has a thicker diameter than some of the others. sensitivity with fluoro is different than braid. braid is always more sensitive on a tight line. flurocarbon is more sensitive on a semi slack line. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted October 5, 2020 Super User Posted October 5, 2020 Fluorocarbon is not going to be as sensitive as braid for moving presentations, but it has other attributes: abrasion resistance and it is practically invisible. Most importantly, for bottom contact (jigs and soft plastics) the bowing is reduced significantly compared to braid. I always use a fluorocarbon leader with braid. Tatsu is my favorite fluoro, but I also like AbrazX for baitcasters and InvizX for spinning gear. Quote
ajschn06 Posted October 5, 2020 Author Posted October 5, 2020 41 minutes ago, roadwarrior said: Fluorocarbon is not going to be as sensitive as braid for moving presentations, but it has other attributes: abrasion resistance and it is practically invisible. Most importantly, for bottom contact (jigs and soft plastics) the bowing is reduced significantly compared to braid. I always use a fluorocarbon leader with braid. Tatsu is my favorite fluoro, but I also like AbrazX for baitcasters and InvizX for spinning gear. How long of a leader do you use? Long enough that the mesh point is going through the guides? Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted October 5, 2020 Super User Posted October 5, 2020 No longer than just above the first guide. You do not want the knot in the reel. Quote
MidwestBassAttack Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 Go try yourself some Gamma Edge. Pricey but worth it. For me, it outperformed Tatsu. Quote
Super User FishTank Posted October 6, 2020 Super User Posted October 6, 2020 This maybe a repeat from above but Vanish is just bad stuff. I like XL better and it's mono. For FC though, I like Invizx and Abrazx for jigs. I have used straight braid for jigs and didn't care for it. It's not a sensitivity issue, it's the how the line goes slack when bouncing it off the bottom but with a FC leader it's a nonissue. Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted October 6, 2020 Global Moderator Posted October 6, 2020 Vanish is awful. Tatsu is great if you want to spend the money. I just fill my spool most of the way with cheap mono and a topshot of Tatsu. InvisX is really good line without spending as much. I had a video link on why I like my InvisX for jig fishing not too long ago. 1 Quote
Steveo-1969 Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 14 hours ago, MidwestBassAttack said: Go try yourself some Gamma Edge. Pricey but worth it. For me, it outperformed Tatsu. I've tried Gamma Edge in 10# on a baitcaster and it performed very well! Abrasion resistant, minimal stretch and handled pretty well. But it's thicker and more expensive than Tatsu. I'm fishing 10# Tatsu on the same rod right now and it's thinner, just as abrasion resistant, minimal stretch, and handles better (softer and less coiling). I didn't want to believe the Tatsu hype you read on here all the time, but after using it the hype is real. 1 Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted October 6, 2020 Super User Posted October 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Steveo-1969 said: I didn't want to believe the Tatsu hype you read on here all the time, but after using it the hype is real. 1 Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted October 7, 2020 Global Moderator Posted October 7, 2020 13 hours ago, Steveo-1969 said: I've tried Gamma Edge in 10# on a baitcaster and it performed very well! Abrasion resistant, minimal stretch and handled pretty well. But it's thicker and more expensive than Tatsu. I'm fishing 10# Tatsu on the same rod right now and it's thinner, just as abrasion resistant, minimal stretch, and handles better (softer and less coiling). I didn't want to believe the Tatsu hype you read on here all the time, but after using it the hype is real. This is the same I found with Gamma Edge. It's great line, highly suggest if you need a very abrasion resistant line. It's also more difficult to handle (stiffer), and thicker than Tatsu. I avoided trying Tatsu for a long time, now that I have, I think of all the fish I lost to random break offs with cheaper fluoro that could have been avoided if I'd just not tried to make do with the low end stuff. 2 Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted October 7, 2020 Super User Posted October 7, 2020 Tatsu is THE BOMB! Quote
ajschn06 Posted October 7, 2020 Author Posted October 7, 2020 Looks like I’m ordering some Tatsu- thanks fellas! Quote
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