Long distance casting reel, need advise

[freelancer27]

With lures of 1/2oz and up I can recommend the Daiwat Costal TW version (not the SV on). Really great caster, outcasts my Tatulate Elite, Coastal TW SV.

[AnotherInstanceOfMe]

3 hours ago, Linewinder said:

Well then Mr. St. Croix!  Get a gooder reel. 

 

Curious though, what do you estimate/know your cast distance is now?   You say average, but that may not be my idea of average.  I'm guessing with a better reel, as you suspect, you'll get longer distances, but will that be enough anyway for your situation?

 

The kayak is lightweight and can get you closer, but yes, does cost more usually than a reel.  It can be more useful than a new reel however in other situations.

 

Somewhere up the chain it was suggested that your rod isn't really capable of longer distances.  That may be.  Perhaps a longer would help -- generally true.  However, loading a rod properly in cast can make even a shorter rod cast as long as an under-loaded longer rod.  I have a <5' rod that can cast 3/8oz just as far as a heavier (lure weight) and faster 6 1/2 footer.  Match the rod specs to what you'll be casting.  

 

Thanks for advise, much appreciate that! Well, at this moment the reel has attached to Mojo Bass 7,5' and I feel that distance covered is about ~50-55 yards if I through 1/2oz chatterbait and about 60+ if I through frog... Frog appeared more aerodynamic )))

For Legend rod I want to by a reel first. By spec it supposes to through up to 5/8oz. Lets see.. Reading more topics at our forum I figured out that Curado DC experience is very questionable and it is not the same to everybody who own this reel... I hoped that Curado DC would be more forgiven to the casting mistakes, but reality is little bit different. Will do research on Tatula Elite/SV and Scorpion DC.

Last idea is to "abuse" Amazon and to take two reels to test and return one later on... 

[flyfisher]

I'd save up a little more and get a used kayak and then you won't need to cast as far as you think.

[AnotherInstanceOfMe]

1 minute ago, flyfisher said:

I'd save up a little more and get a used kayak and then you won't need to cast as far as you think.

Make sense, but I need a reel anyway...

[AnotherInstanceOfMe]

1 hour ago, BaitFinesse said:

Tatula SVs are no good for max distance.  

What about Shimano SLX MGL 70?

Is it better choice?

[zell_pop1]

1 hour ago, AnotherInstanceOfMe said:

What about Shimano SLX MGL 70?

Is it better choice?

I suggest the regular old $100 SLX. They cast great, set 2 brakes on and practice and after a short time you will be happy.

[Sphynx]

I'll toss in my support for a Curado DC, there are 4 brake settings, you'll figure them and the reel out pretty quickly, it casts a country mile, and it's a proper workhorse. 

 

The Daiwa Tatula Elite is a reel I picked up a week ago, so I won't endorse it yet just because I haven't had enough time and fish on it to do so, but so far my biggest beef with it has been the grips, which is a pretty minor issue all told, so I would go on record as having said try that one too if you can, it's been a pretty positive experience in the 3 or 4 days I've fished it so far. 

[Sphynx]

1 hour ago, BaitFinesse said:

You can change grips.  I wouldn't let what grips a reel has on it play any factor in determining what reel to buy.  Its like not buying a car because you don't like the tires on it.  Just change them. 

That is precisely why I pointed out that my largest gripe was the grips and specifically pointed out that it was a minor issue at best, I may or may not change them, I clearly prefer the Shimano grips over the Daiwa grips, but to continue with your car example, I prefer a Chevrolet to a Ford, but I wouldn't necessarily not buy or enjoy the Ford overall because of a minor preference. 

[GetFishorDieTryin]

On ‎10‎/‎5‎/‎2020 at 10:48 AM, Catt said:

Rods cast...reels hold line?

For sure...To many people concentrate on just the reel for distance, the rod is just as or even more important.   

[J Francho]

My longest casts came from a $50 All Star Select 6’ rod, an old Daiwa TD-S type reel, spooled with 10# Trilene, and my favorite one-eyed Sammy. I’m talking bomb casts. I don’t have the reel or the rod anymore, but I have the bait. Something about that combination made for stupid long casts. 

[PhishLI]

On 10/5/2020 at 12:55 PM, BaitFinesse said:

I agree with the above other than distance tuned Magforce Z needing gentle casting strokes. 

I didn't say or infer anything like "gentle casting". I said a refined casting stroke. It's hard power casting, but loading and unloading, and the release point, is different than with centrifugals. It's a feel thing. Took me a while to figure it out. Gravity kicks in at a different point with a higher arc, but the bait coming out hot up to the the apex keeps the spool from over-running the line. It's a tight rope act in the beginning, but I don't even think about it now.

 

[AnotherInstanceOfMe]

Guys, what "bomb cast" means? Casting really heavy lures?

[MN Fisher]

9 minutes ago, AnotherInstanceOfMe said:

Guys, what "bomb cast" means? Casting really heavy lures?

Could - but mainly it's casting a LONG distance...like a 'long bomb' in football.

[jimmyjoe]

1 hour ago, AnotherInstanceOfMe said:

Guys, what "bomb cast" means? Casting really heavy lures?

 

   It insinuates a high arc and more vertical entry to the lure, sometimes with an  uncontrolled or "smashing" splashdown.  Just the opposite of feathering a jig at close distance to enter noiselessly.    jj

[J Francho]

1 hour ago, MN Fisher said:

Could - but mainly it's casting a LONG distance...like a 'long bomb' in football.

This. 

[AnotherInstanceOfMe]

2 hours ago, MN Fisher said:

Could - but mainly it's casting a LONG distance...like a 'long bomb' in football.

 

1 hour ago, jimmyjoe said:

 

   It insinuates a high arc and more vertical entry to the lure, sometimes with an  uncontrolled or "smashing" splashdown.  Just the opposite of feathering a jig at close distance to enter noiselessly.    jj

 

2 minutes ago, J Francho said:

This. 

Thanks guys.. Sorry for newbie questions, "I'm alien"  

[AnotherInstanceOfMe]

Hello All,

 

at first I want to thank to all of you for advises and willing help. It's priceless!

 

I did my choice today. I decided to go with Abu Garcia Revo ALX 8.0:1 (9 Bearings, 155grams), bough it in China from official Abu dealer.

Additionally, I ordered spear spool 32mm (weight is 6.43 grams) for "turning" my reel into MGX.

Total costs, including delivery is $214.25

 

Company promised to get things delivered at November, 12

Will keep you up to date.

[AnotherInstanceOfMe]

4 hours ago, BaitFinesse said:

Why did you chose that reel for max distance?  As a linear mag brake reel that would have been one my last choices.  

I spoke to the specialists who does reels tuning, he affirmed that it would be the best solution for money because of the reel weight and performance, regardless of mag break.

And this tread in our forum has added it's 5 cents: 

But maybe discussion is too old and many things changed from that time...

[Sir Shamsalot]

In your price range, I recommend the Tatula Elite. Its one of the lightest reels in range. I own both the Elite and the Curado DC as well as many others in-between (SLX, Curado Ks, Daiwas). Both are on comparable rods. Both cast very similar as far as distance. After casting the Elite for awhile however, the DC felt like I was casting a brick on a stick. Don't get me wrong, I really really like my DC, but given a choice at buying another it would be the Elite. Which I have, three times now because of its casting distance, the braking system, size, and its weight. I also fish straight FC alot in open water and I have less issues with the Daiwas using it. 

[bulldog1935]

my longest-casting low profile baitcaster is Lew's Super Duty G because of its excellent mag brake.  

 

Centrifugal brakes are best for defending against initial spool overshoot backlash at the beginning of your cast.  

 

Mag brakes are best for defending against mid-cast wind backlash that occurs when your lure is going over the hump, gravity is slowing it down just before it speeds up again on the drop.  

 

My longest-cast baitcaster By Far is (custom) Abu CT - it easily more than doubles the cast distance of any of my level-wind baitcasters.  

First time I cast 1/4-oz lure on this reel, it ended up in my neighbor's back acre.  

Conveniently, this reel has both centrifugal and mag

I also built it with Avail shallow braid spool, and the mag brake is the Avail mag that matches the spool.  

[lynxcat]

I recently got the Daiwa Tatula Elite. It will bomb a bait and I have been extremely pleased. It’s lived up to the hype. 

[WRB]

GSo far reading this thread only DVL and Catt make any sense answering the op’s question regarding casting poppers and jerk bait longer distance. DVL suggested a spinning reel, Catt stated rods cast lures reels hold line.

Both poppers and jerk baits are not the easiest lure to cast a long distance regardless of the bait casting reel used.

The op hasn’t stated how far he wants to cast? What line he plans to use and lure weights??

After casting you need to be able to work the lure, detecting strikes isn’t a major issue. 

I will start by saying 35 to 40 yards cast using a 1/4 -3/8 oz popper or 3/8 -1/2 oz jerk bait is a long cast under normal fishing conditions and further then you or I can effectively work those lures.

Tom