Dashipa Posted October 3, 2020 Posted October 3, 2020 Got one today - followed instructions by tightening spool tension knob to "...remove endplay on spool shaft..". Did that and watched a couple of videos and learned that just a touch of play in spool is key. However I am backlashing like a MF'r with this reel! I keep reading posts about how this reel "once dialed in" will not backlash. Supposedly you can set it and forget it - toss any lure ..any size. What is the trick to get this reel working properly ladies and gents?? Thanks! Mike Quote
Dens228 Posted October 3, 2020 Posted October 3, 2020 Are you still adjusting the brake also? The dial on the opposite side. Quote
Dashipa Posted October 3, 2020 Author Posted October 3, 2020 I started on 10 - I have to move it down to like 4 or 5 to get a decent cast. .....plus if i dont use my thumb it overruns big time at any setting when it hits the ground. How are people using this reel with no thumb...LOL! .....and skipping this thing under docks without blowing up the reel. ? Quote
matbellon3 Posted October 3, 2020 Posted October 3, 2020 With the spool tension I have mine set to have no tension but just to eliminate side to to side play. On the dial I use 7 or 8 for zombie casting and use 4-6 for more distance. 14 minutes ago, Dashipa said: plus if i dont use my thumb it overruns big time at any setting when it hits the ground. How are people using this reel with no thumb...LOL! Having to use your thumb to stop the spool when your lure hits the water is normal and has to be done with most reels unless there is some spool tension. As for skipping with this reel I use use whatever setting I'm using and just use my thumb to control the cast/ skip. Quote
Super User new2BC4bass Posted October 3, 2020 Super User Posted October 3, 2020 Is this your first baitcast reel? A bit more information would be helpful. Rod being used including model, power and action. Lure being used including weight. If you are casting a 1/8 oz. finesse jig on a HF St. Croix or Abu, then expect trouble. 1 Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted October 3, 2020 Posted October 3, 2020 Why would you expect no over run after touch down with a baitcaster and no thumb? Set it and forget it just means flexible not auto pilot. Required settings depend on your circumstances. Rod, line, baits, casting technique etc. Others settings might get you close but trial and error will tell you best. Quote
Dens228 Posted October 3, 2020 Posted October 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Delaware Valley Tackle said: Why would you expect no over run after touch down with a baitcaster and no thumb? Set it and forget it just means flexible not auto pilot. Required settings depend on your circumstances. Rod, line, baits, casting technique etc. Others settings might get you close but trial and error will tell you best. What he said............you need to use your thumb.......... Quote
Bassin_Harrison Posted October 3, 2020 Posted October 3, 2020 Pretty sure I have my breaks on around 8 or 9 and my spool tension is pretty lose, just eliminates side to side movement. I rarely adjust my breaks, they hang around 8 for pretty much any bait I throw doesn't matter the weight. I was chucking a pretty small underspin a fricken mile the other day with those settings, that reel continues to amaze me even after a year of using it. I don't know how experienced you are, but you should definitely be using your thumb at least right before the bait lands. I don't thumb the spool during the cast much at all however, so I'd say turn up the breaks to around 8 or 9 and if you are still back lashing, it's more your technique than the reel probably. 13 hours ago, Dashipa said: I started on 10 - I have to move it down to like 4 or 5 to get a decent cast. .....plus if i dont use my thumb it overruns big time at any setting when it hits the ground. How are people using this reel with no thumb...LOL! .....and skipping this thing under docks without blowing up the reel. ? This actually sounds more like spool tension than breaks (although the breaks should be higher than 4 or 5), make sure it's tight enough where the bait falls a good speed and when it hits the ground only a few loops pop up. Quote
kayaking_kev Posted October 3, 2020 Posted October 3, 2020 Mine has the zero adjust spool, but it's the 2020 version. I don't thumb any reel anymore until the lure hits the water, even on my older Abu Garcia reels. The only reel I didn't have to thumb when the lure hit the water was a DC reel and that was with the settings cranked up which reduced casting distance significantly. The only time I get backlashes is when I make a bad cast technique wise and whip the tip a little to hard. Quote
NOC 1 Posted October 3, 2020 Posted October 3, 2020 Maybe you are casting too hard? Diawa reels don't usually take well to the big full throttle whip casts that some guys do. Try to cast with a smooth controlled motion. Start gently aiming for maybe 20 yards and once you get the motion down, work up from there. My son has a big power cast and he can bomb lures 70 yards all day long with a Lews or Shimano. Give him a Daiwa though and that same cast birds nests withing a few casts. I won't say that you never have to use your thumb on the Tat SV TW, but once you get the motion down and get to where you can hit the desired distance with it, you won't need it much. The only time I need my thumb with mine is when I throw a little too hard for how far I am aiming. Quote
Super User fishwizzard Posted October 4, 2020 Super User Posted October 4, 2020 7 hours ago, NOC 1 said: Maybe you are casting too hard? Diawa reels don't usually take well to the big full throttle whip casts that some guys do. Try to cast with a smooth controlled motion. Start gently aiming for maybe 20 yards and once you get the motion down, work up from there. I would almost guarantee it’s something to do with the casting stroke. One of my new favorite evening activities is to stand in the field behind my house, drink a beer, watch the fireflies, and aimlessly cast into the night. I try to thumb the spool to a stop just before the lure hits the ground but I am doing it by sound/feel and miss a lot. Most every Daiwa reel I own, with the brakes set around 50%, will not produce more then a few loose coils when the lure lands. I slow and stop the lure when I am fishing so I can accurately place casts and train up my thumb for when a case goes off course and I need to save my lure, but if you are willing to adapt to a smooth easy stroke, they are generally very controlled. 1 Quote
Dashipa Posted October 4, 2020 Author Posted October 4, 2020 Thanks for all the input folks. ? I spent some more time with the reel and slowed down my cast. I am a power cast guy- lol. The thing I like is that I can put this reel between 4-6 and my lure just bombs with with a slight flick of my rod. Impressive - but yeah I definitely have to use the thumb. ? 17 minutes ago, fishwizzard said: One of my new favorite evening activities is to stand in the field behind my house, drink a beer, watch the fireflies, and aimlessly cast into the night. Lol. Glad to know I am not e only one doing the exact same thing. ? 1 Quote
Super User fishwizzard Posted October 4, 2020 Super User Posted October 4, 2020 23 minutes ago, Dashipa said: Lol. Glad to know I am not e only one doing the exact same thing. ? It’s an extremely chill time. I’m casting towards a woodline and I’m always waiting for the day that I end up knocking a deer in the head with the jig. Quote
Lead Head Posted October 4, 2020 Posted October 4, 2020 On your spool tension, you want a teeny tiny side to side wiggle. Not loose side to side play. Sounds like you have it pretty much figured out now anyway. I cast in my yard all the time too. I've had cats sneak up and try to attack my jig many times, but no deer... yet. The coolest thing happened a few weeks ago. I was in the yard pitching to stumps and bushes just playing around. I was wearing a wide brimmed hat to keep the sun off so I couldn't see anything up in the trees. As I'm reeling in my jig a hawk came straight down on it about 20 feet from me. I managed to get the jig away before he could secure it, but because of the hat I had no idea he was in the area until he was (what felt like) right in my face... nearly had to change pants after that. 1 Quote
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