ajschn06 Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 Are most of you using a med-heavy baitcast setup or a lighter spinning rod for this application? I've got a 6'3" Abu Garcia Vendetta spinning rod, medium action/MF taper. I planned to use it for more "finesse" type setups like a Ned Rig or Drop Shot. I was hoping to be able to use it for the weightless Senko's as well but not sure how that will work. Quote
Dens228 Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 I was using a MH/F baitcasting rod for wacky, mainly because I don't fish that style much. I recently bought a Dobyns Fury ML/Fast spinning rod for that and dropshot. I like it but boy am I bad at accurately casting a spinning combo at the moment! Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted September 17, 2020 Super User Posted September 17, 2020 7 minutes ago, ajschn06 said: Are most of you using a med-heavy baitcast setup or a lighter spinning rod for this application? I've got a 6'3" Abu Garcia Vendetta spinning rod, medium action/MF taper. I planned to use it for more "finesse" type setups like a Ned Rig or Drop Shot. I was hoping to be able to use it for the weightless Senko's as well but not sure how that will work. The spinning rig will be fine. I would suggest #6 line. Quote
Super User MIbassyaker Posted September 17, 2020 Super User Posted September 17, 2020 Medium spinning rod works great for weightless plastics, including a senko. Quote
Global Moderator Mike L Posted September 17, 2020 Global Moderator Posted September 17, 2020 I use a MH/F baitcaster. A spinning combo will work fine in the right conditions. Mike Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted September 17, 2020 Super User Posted September 17, 2020 I do weightless Senko either on my M/F spinning rig with 10# Mono or my ML/F finesse rig with 6# mono. Quote
LCG Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 Wacky and other finesse techniques I use a 6'8 M-XF spinning rod. Texas rigged weightless and weighted go on MH-XF casting rod. Quote
Happybeerbuzz Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 Medium Power, 7' spinning rod, 15# yellow braid to an 8 or 10 pound mono leader. I can not skip a baitcaster. Quote
Fin S Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 Weightless senko works great on a m/f or m/mf spinning rod. That's a good setup for tubes as well. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted September 17, 2020 Super User Posted September 17, 2020 I use a stiffer than usual spinning rod with 20# braid. If I need a leader, I use 6-10# Seaguar Blue Label. 1 Quote
5by3 Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 I like a 7’ medium spinning rod with 15 lb power pro mainline to a 10 lb flouro leader. This setup works for a lot of other baits too. Quote
Super User JustJames Posted September 17, 2020 Super User Posted September 17, 2020 Do you plan to buy a new setup? Why don’t you just try with whatever you have to see it it work as you hope or what you don’t like and we can go from there. You already have rod and reel all you need just a bag of senko and a bag of 4/0 Gamakatsu Ewg hook. Quote
ajschn06 Posted September 17, 2020 Author Posted September 17, 2020 20 minutes ago, Bass_Fishing_Socal said: Do you plan to buy a new setup? Why don’t you just try with whatever you have to see it it work as you hope or what you don’t like and we can go from there. You already have rod and reel all you need just a bag of senko and a bag of 4/0 Gamakatsu Ewg hook. No, the setup above is one I already have. That's what I would hope to use for this purpose- it's not something I'll be doing enough to have a dedicated setup for. I could wait until I have a chance to get out and try, and not start a thread, but I get bored at work and was curious what others use... Quote
DaubsNU1 Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 2 hours ago, J Francho said: I use a stiffer than usual spinning rod with 20# braid. If I need a leader, I use 6-10# Seaguar Blue Label. Me as well...medium 6'6" spinning rod with 20lb braid. Quote
OnthePotomac Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 I do know that the generally, normally accepted way to fish a weightless Senko is on medium, spinning gear, but I have always used a MH bait caster with 15 lb invizx on a a really fast bait cast reel and that is because I have to deal with really thick Hydrilla beds. Even off the edges of a big bed there is a layer of the stuff from which you have to fight to retrieve your bait. Quote
Hook2Jaw Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 7' Medium Fast Daiwa Tatula XT Spinning with a Daiwa Fuego LT 2500D-XH. I learned to fish weightless sticks on a spinning rod long ago when I lurked here and have been using one for the technique ever since. 1 Quote
Khoa Vu Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 Spinning - Medium/Fast, 15lb braid to 10lb leader, regular wire hook 3/0 Casting - MH/Fast, 50lb braid to 15lb leader or straight braid, superline hook 3/0 Yamamoto Senkos weighs enough to be casted with both. Your setup will work fine, just make sure to use lighter wire hooks and it will penetrates just fine. I find when I fish weightless senkos with spinning combo, a strong smooth pull upward and it hooks up fine. just make sure hooks are sharp. Quote
Tatsu Dave Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 I just got done an evaluation of weightless stick baits on M/F spinning set-ups with finesse reels. Weighed all 5 brands of stickbaits I use along with weightless 3/0 EWG hooks. stickbaits went from 8.5gr. to 11.4gr. Hook and screwloc added just over 1gr. with 6 1/2ft-7ft. M/F rods casts were 30-35 yds.....then with guide and spool sprayed with KVD conditioner distance jumped to 40-43yds. Rattlesnake stickbaits with deep rings on them lost 5-7yds on average. Lure weight averaged about 3/16oz and line was .010 dia. 10# tatsu flurocarbon line. Pretty much windless however into the wind and with the wind would add or detract some. I was surprised at the distance with an unweighted plastic bait myself. Its my most fished lure and I was interested in weight and casting distance, with my digital scales it was pretty easy. Senko's were the second heaviest behind ocho's then followed by tricksticks ,dingers, and last was XZone true centers. 1 Quote
Super User GaryH Posted September 17, 2020 Super User Posted September 17, 2020 5 hours ago, J Francho said: I use a stiffer than usual spinning rod with 20# braid. If I need a leader, I use 6-10# Seaguar Blue Label. My exact setup. Quote
galyonj Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 I use a 6'9" ML/F spinning setup with 15lb braid to a 8lb leader for wacky rigs, weightless stickbaits and flukes, ned rigs, all kinds of stuff. Quote
Westcoast Posted September 18, 2020 Posted September 18, 2020 For me it depends on cover. I’ll t-rig and toss them on a mh exfast bait caster when fishing in heavy cover. And I’ll finesse them on a spinning rod or ml baitcaster in more open water and pressured fish. 1 Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted September 18, 2020 Posted September 18, 2020 M/F spinning 4&5” ML/Xf spinning for 3” mh/f casting 5”> over pads or if cover dictates 2 Quote
Super User NorthernBasser Posted September 18, 2020 Super User Posted September 18, 2020 9 hours ago, Happybeerbuzz said: Medium Power, 7' spinning rod, 15# yellow braid to an 8 or 10 pound mono leader. I can not skip a baitcaster. This is my exact set-up, except with a 10# fluoro leader. Quote
Dens228 Posted September 18, 2020 Posted September 18, 2020 5 hours ago, Tatsu Dave said: I just got done an evaluation of weightless stick baits on M/F spinning set-ups with finesse reels. Weighed all 5 brands of stickbaits I use along with weightless 3/0 EWG hooks. stickbaits went from 8.5gr. to 11.4gr. Hook and screwloc added just over 1gr. with 6 1/2ft-7ft. M/F rods casts were 30-35 yds.....then with guide and spool sprayed with KVD conditioner distance jumped to 40-43yds. Rattlesnake stickbaits with deep rings on them lost 5-7yds on average. Lure weight averaged about 3/16oz and line was .010 dia. 10# tatsu flurocarbon line. Pretty much windless however into the wind and with the wind would add or detract some. I was surprised at the distance with an unweighted plastic bait myself. Its my most fished lure and I was interested in weight and casting distance, with my digital scales it was pretty easy. Senko's were the second heaviest behind ocho's then followed by tricksticks ,dingers, and last was XZone true centers. The thing for me is, being in a kayak, when I'm fishing a wacky rig I only need to cast it between 10 and 20 feet so distance is not an issue. Quote
kdubracing Posted September 18, 2020 Posted September 18, 2020 Similar to some others, I use a ML/F or M/F spinning set up for wacky rig (or neko, anything with exposed hook). I use a MH/F baitcaster for weightless t-rig. I prefer the baitcasting set up for setting the buried hook. Quote
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