Shimano Stradic Ci4+ HG - Why So Popular???

[thaochang4]

I wanted to know if there is a difference between shimano stradic ci4+ 1000 or the stradic ci4+ c2000s.  The shimano stradic ci4+ c2000s is a JDM reel.  Would a C2000s spool fit a the stradic ci4+ 1000 reel?  

[GetFishorDieTryin]

Not 100% sure about Shimano but the Diawa Ballistic 2500 and 3000 frames look Identical in size but the 3000 spool is just bit wider.  I asked a Daiwa Rep if the spools were interchangeable and he said they are but he wouldn't recommend doing it.  He said the difference in the line lay would likely cause problems.  In my experience asking a JDM dealer what the differences are compared to the USDM reels can be difficult to answer. 

[JustJames]

Before hand, I don’t own CI4+ and 
In theory They should, the C2000 indicated for compact body of 2000 spool on 1000 body.

My Daiwa Tatula LT 2000 and 1000, the spool are interchangeable. all parts are the same only spool that different.

A question, what are you trying to achieve here? Buying a 2000 spool from Japan in hope that it will fit in your 1000 ci4+? you want shallow spool instead of standard spool that come with your 1000? You hope for bigger spool? Last question is how much 2000s spool would cost you? 
The different 1000 spool is either 40 or 42mm standard spool while 2000S is 43mm shallow spool. The weight and drag capacity is the same.

[Reel]

The new Ci4, the Vanford, will be available in 2000 size: basically it's a 1000 central body with a bigger diameter spool.

[thaochang4]

I wanted to buy a c2000 spool to fit it on a 1000 size stradic ci4.  I just wanted to fit a bigger shallow spool for my small stradic ci4 reel.

[shimanoangler]

Let me start with saying I fish spinning reels exclusively chasing smallmouth bass and as such, I have tried no less than one hundred different spinning reels over the years. I have settled into Daiwa and Shimano products, really liking the Shimano Exsence in the 4000 size, Vanquish in 3000 size and the Stradic FL in the 3000.   And with Daiwa I have settled on pre LT Luvias 3012, the JDM XFire 3012, Limited Edition Sterling Silver Tatula 3000 CXH and the JDM Caldia LT in the 3000 and 4000 sizes.   These are all really nice reels and I know both companies make very nice reels in other models.

 

That said, what I have yet to figure out is all the hype on the Stradic Ci4+ reels.  They were TW Best Seller before the Vanford came out recently.  And often times sold out on TW.  I just picked up two brand new Ci4+ reels to put on a couple of my back up rods and I had a chance to fish them yesterday and I have to say..... I just don't get it....

 

Am I missing something?   Anyone else have experience that would speak to why these reels are so well thought of?  I look forward to hearing others experiences.  

[jimmyjoe]

3 hours ago, shimanoangler said:

Am I missing something?   Anyone else have experience that would speak to why these reels are so well thought of? 

 

   I'd say that a person's satisfaction rests mainly on what their expectations were. That being said, I have two Stradic Ci4+ 2500 FA reels. Although I've used them with braid and mono, right now both have 6 lb. mono on them. I've also tried the (still-current) Ci4+ 2500 FB, and own the (still-current) 4000 size in the FB series.

  I really like the FA series. I don't think much of the FB series.

   I have absolutely no idea what the new Vanford is going to be like. But I do know one thing; manufacturers are in a race to lower the weight of spinning reels, and they're using any and all technologies at their disposal to do so. This includes some outrageously expensive technologies, for which they charge what are (to me) outrageously expensive prices. These technologies include (among others) lighter and lighter alloy gears and shafts, and plastics that are ever thinner, with greater and greater percentages of carbon fiber to compensate.

   Some people are eager to jump on this bandwagon. Not me. I think they've gone too far. The reels lack a feeling of solidity, and they don't hold their smoothness for long periods of time. That's if they're smooth to begin with.

 

   Oh, well. I guess I'm just an old fart who doesn't appreciate progress.  ??     jj

  

[JustJames]

3 hours ago, thaochang4 said:

I wanted to buy a c2000 spool to fit it on a 1000 size stradic ci4.  I just wanted to fit a bigger shallow spool for my small stradic ci4 reel.

I hope we are talking about ci4+ FB, you aware that it will cost you about 60 to buy just 2000 spare spool, right? Can you tell me diameter of your 1000 spool. Like I said shimano pulled out old Stradic ci4 info so I had to look at Cardiff ci4 which pretty much the same. The 1000 spool is 42mm while 2000 spool is 43mm so you only gain 1mm which is not much at all. If you spool in 40mm then the 3mm might worth the invest. Shallow spool, I don’t care it much, braid backing would take care it once and for all.

[S Hovanec]

6 hours ago, shimanoangler said:

 

Am I missing something?   Anyone else have experience that would speak to why these reels are so well thought of?  I look forward to hearing others experiences.  

I wasn't impressed with them either.  They felt geary to me.  I still have one because I built the rod to match the color scheme of the reel. I still use it, but it's not as enjoyable as my other reels.

[ec1]

Have a 2000s rarenium (Jdm ci4 fa) and a 1000 sized Stradic ci4 fa fits but not sure about the new model. I’d give it a try

[Boomstick]

7 hours ago, shimanoangler said:

Let me start with saying I fish spinning reels exclusively chasing smallmouth bass and as such, I have tried no less than one hundred different spinning reels over the years. I have settled into Daiwa and Shimano products, really liking the Shimano Exsence in the 4000 size, Vanquish in 3000 size and the Stradic FL in the 3000.   And with Daiwa I have settled on pre LT Luvias 3012, the JDM XFire 3012, Limited Edition Sterling Silver Tatula 3000 CXH and the JDM Caldia LT in the 3000 and 4000 sizes.   These are all really nice reels and I know both companies make very nice reels in other models.

 

That said, what I have yet to figure out is all the hype on the Stradic Ci4+ reels.  They were TW Best Seller before the Vanford came out recently.  And often times sold out on TW.  I just picked up two brand new Ci4+ reels to put on a couple of my back up rods and I had a chance to fish them yesterday and I have to say..... I just don't get it....

 

Am I missing something?   Anyone else have experience that would speak to why these reels are so well thought of?  I look forward to hearing others experiences.  

If I remember right, the Stradic were some of the first quality lightweight reels around, so everyone is familiar with the name. Not saying they aren't good reels, but it's like going to the grocery store and buying Coca-Cola vs some off brand you never heard of.

[shimanoangler]

5 hours ago, jimmyjoe said:

 

   I'd say that a person's satisfaction rests mainly on what their expectations were. That being said, I have two Stradic Ci4+ 2500 FA reels. Although I've used them with braid and mono, right now both have 6 lb. mono on them. I've also tried the (still-current) Ci4+ 2500 FB, and own the (still-current) 4000 size in the FB series.

  I really like the FA series. I don't think much of the FB series.

   I have absolutely no idea what the new Vanford is going to be like. But I do know one thing; manufacturers are in a race to lower the weight of spinning reels, and they're using any and all technologies at their disposal to do so. This includes some outrageously expensive technologies, for which they charge what are (to me) outrageously expensive prices. These technologies include (among others) lighter and lighter alloy gears and shafts, and plastics that are ever thinner, with greater and greater percentages of carbon fiber to compensate.

   Some people are eager to jump on this bandwagon. Not me. I think they've gone too far. The reels lack a feeling of solidity, and they don't hold their smoothness for long periods of time. That's if they're smooth to begin with.

 

   Oh, well. I guess I'm just an old fart who doesn't appreciate progress.  ??     jj

  

I'm with ya.   ?

[NHBull]

For me it is about weight, balance, price, dependability. The ci4 does that for me.  I have tried the upper tear and truth be told, I don’t get it as much as I do with top shelf BC’s