I am just too uncoordinated....

[ajschn06]

To fish a frog.  No matter how much I try, no matter how gentle I am, I can not get them to walk.  On occasion I’ll get it to dart back and forth once or twice, but that’s it......

 

I’ve also seen Wheeler fish swim jigs with a steady retrieve and constant twitch... cannot for the life of me get my body to do both at the same time.  Can handle jerkbaits since it’s just partial handle turns in between twitches.... but the steady retrieve and constant twitch- you should see me try to do that it’s awful....

 

any tips?

 

[Big Swimbait]

Never work the bait with a tight line. Move the rod tip back to give it some slack, then make your rod move. Takes a little practice but after a while it will be second nature.

 

[Shimano_1]

Leave slack in ur line. If you try to walk a frog on even semi tight line it won't work. Throw it out. Engage ur reel. Then twitch without reeling until u get slack in ur line and see if u can't walk it then. Also subtle small like 6 inch twitches not the kvd jerkbait style twitches. Im with ya on the swim jig thing I can't really make myself fish one that way either. Hang in there and you'll get it. Some frogs are a lot eaiser to walk as well. The pad crasher is the easiest of the ones I've tried and its the only frogs I use anymore. 

[Glenn]

1 hour ago, ajschn06 said:

To fish a frog.  No matter how much I try, no matter how gentle I am, I can not get them to walk.  On occasion I’ll get it to dart back and forth once or twice, but that’s it.....

Here's your answer (the video starts right at your answer):

 

 

[shootermcbob]

I went to a left hand reel and with rod in my right hand. I am able to walk topwater & frogs twitching with my right hand and reeling with my left. holding rod in my left hand and reeling right handed is my normal cast and retrieve but I can not "walk" that way. 

[ajschn06]

6 hours ago, Glenn said:

Here's your answer (the video starts right at your answer):

 

 

Thanks Glenn- that was the first thing I did to all my frogs before I even threw them!  Maybe need to go even shorter?

7 hours ago, Shimano_1 said:

Leave slack in ur line. If you try to walk a frog on even semi tight line it won't work. Throw it out. Engage ur reel. Then twitch without reeling until u get slack in ur line and see if u can't walk it then. Also subtle small like 6 inch twitches not the kvd jerkbait style twitches. Im with ya on the swim jig thing I can't really make myself fish one that way either. Hang in there and you'll get it. Some frogs are a lot eaiser to walk as well. The pad crasher is the easiest of the ones I've tried and its the only frogs I use anymore. 

Yeah pad crashers are the only ones I have.  The popping ones I can actually get to walk a little better- the standard the only thing I can get it to do is like jump out of the water.  I’ve worked every end of the spectrum as far as aggressive and gentle twitches- just don’t quite have the touch yet!  Gotta get it down tho because I’m missing out being on the Mississippi without a frog...

5 hours ago, shootermcbob said:

I went to a left hand reel and with rod in my right hand. I am able to walk topwater & frogs twitching with my right hand and reeling with my left. holding rod in my left hand and reeling right handed is my normal cast and retrieve but I can not "walk" that way. 

Ya know I’ve actually considered this..

[Jaderose]

Then don't.  I have never understood why people get so caught up in trying to "walk" a frog.  You wanna walk a lure, throw one made to be walked.  With that said, there are time when I want to throw something between a frog and spook.  I can throw a toad OR I can throw a "secret" weapon.  A few years ago I was tossing a frog in a sparse lily field and wasn't getting anything.  I decided to downsize my frog to a little Pad Crasher jr. I had.  It was old and when I tied it on, the legs crumbled.  The legs were GONE.  I threw it anyway and HOLY SMOKES!  I don't know what the fish thought it was other than a little nugget of ruckus that they were hammering.  It didn't really "walk" per se, but it did move around alot.  Sputter and spit and basically just raised hell.  Give it a try.  I make a few every year and they are definitely in my regular rotation.

[Teal]

The beauty of the frog is you dont absolutely have to walk the dof with it.  Alot of the spot I throw one is so dang thick, I just move and pop it and I dont get caught up in focusing my my attention of walking it like a apook.  Slowing it down with subtle pauses and working slowing over and around mats and emergents works well.  

 

Ish monroe made a good video about it.  

[Catt]

1 hour ago, Teal said:

The beauty of the frog is you dont absolutely have to walk the dof with it. 

 

Yes sir spot on! ?

 

I seldom if ever walk the dog even when throwing a Spook.

[Glenn]

3 hours ago, ajschn06 said:

Maybe need to go even shorter?

Ya, I cut them at least 1/2 off, if not more.

 

But like others have said, you need to walk the dog in order to catch fish with it.  As I have mentioned numerous times in my frog videos, the beauty of the hollow-bodied frog is that it floats.  Use that advantage.  Sometimes just twitching it a little and then letting it sit there motionless will illicit vicious strikes.

 

[jimmyjoe]

30 minutes ago, Glenn said:

Ya, I cut them at least 1/2 off, if not more.

 

But like others have said, you need to walk the dog in order to catch fish with it.  As I have mentioned numerous times in my frog videos, the beauty of the hollow-bodied frog is that it floats.  Use that advantage.  Sometimes just twitching it a little and then letting it sit there motionless will illicit vicious strikes.

 

 

   elicit

   We don't want him doing something illicit.   ?   jj

[Catt]

Movement without movement!

 

I first heard that from Zell Roland when talking about a Pop-R, heard it again from Rick Clunn talking about jerkbaits, & again from KVD when talking Shacky Heads.

 

What is meant by that?

 

You want to impart movement to your lure (action) without your lure actually moving forward.

 

[GReb]

I find pooping frogs easier to walk than the standard mat frogs 

[Teal]

34 minutes ago, GReb said:

I find pooping frogs easier to walk than the standard mat frogs 

I dont have a frog that poops

[Sphynx]

17 minutes ago, Teal said:

I dont have a frog that poops

Well...when was the last time you fed one of your frogs? Bet if you fed it once in a while it'd poop...

[camman]

Switch to a spinning rod...may not be conventional equipment to fish a frog, but you may be able to get the movement down better.

[ajschn06]

12 hours ago, Jaderose said:

Then don't.  I have never understood why people get so caught up in trying to "walk" a frog.  You wanna walk a lure, throw one made to be walked.  With that said, there are time when I want to throw something between a frog and spook.  I can throw a toad OR I can throw a "secret" weapon.  A few years ago I was tossing a frog in a sparse lily field and wasn't getting anything.  I decided to downsize my frog to a little Pad Crasher jr. I had.  It was old and when I tied it on, the legs crumbled.  The legs were GONE.  I threw it anyway and HOLY SMOKES!  I don't know what the fish thought it was other than a little nugget of ruckus that they were hammering.  It didn't really "walk" per se, but it did move around alot.  Sputter and spit and basically just raised hell.  Give it a try.  I make a few every year and they are definitely in my regular rotation.

 

12 hours ago, Teal said:

The beauty of the frog is you dont absolutely have to walk the dof with it.  Alot of the spot I throw one is so dang thick, I just move and pop it and I dont get caught up in focusing my my attention of walking it like a apook.  Slowing it down with subtle pauses and working slowing over and around mats and emergents works well.  

 

Ish monroe made a good video about it.  

Hey I really appreciate that!  I guess I thought if I wasn’t walking the hollow body frogs I wasn’t fishing them properly.... I’ll give it a whirl!

[Glenn]

11 hours ago, jimmyjoe said:

elicit

   We don't want him doing something illicit.   ?   jj

Um ya, that's what I meant.  Sure.

[Boomstick]

On 9/13/2020 at 2:36 AM, shootermcbob said:

I went to a left hand reel and with rod in my right hand. I am able to walk topwater & frogs twitching with my right hand and reeling with my left. holding rod in my left hand and reeling right handed is my normal cast and retrieve but I can not "walk" that way. 

I'm left handed and I use my spinning reels left handed, but I use a right handed baitcaster. I can't reel with my left hand to save my life, so my rod stays in my left hand unless it's beneficial to cast around say bushes or something by casting right handed - which after a few tries I can do okay but it always takes me a few warmup casts. It works out for me much better this way.

[mikey z]

What type of line are you using? I can't walk a frog at all... It's the exact same problem, I can get it to walk literally for like two twitches. Except braid! Braid is the only line I can walk a frog with. Maybe that's your answer?

[scbassin]

If you think your to uncoordinated To be fishing walking baits where you would be standing. My advice is to make sure you have your life jacket on.

[ajschn06]

2 hours ago, mikey z said:

What type of line are you using? I can't walk a frog at all... It's the exact same problem, I can get it to walk literally for like two twitches. Except braid! Braid is the only line I can walk a frog with. Maybe that's your answer?

Braid- 40 pound!

31 minutes ago, scbassin said:

If you think your to uncoordinated To be fishing walking baits where you would be standing. My advice is to make sure you have your life jacket on.

On the front deck- I can swim

[scbassin]

I understand but I will tell you what happened to a very good friend of mine. I was station with him for 3 years while in the Navy & in the same bass club since 1974. He was a excellent swimmer. He was having some Coordination problems. One afternoon Him & another club member were suppose to go fishing but he had to cancel due to a work problem. Jerry went by himself. When his granddaughter did not find him or his boat in the morning She call the the guy he was suppose to go with, who went looking at the landings we always fished out of & found his truck & trailer & called DNR & the Sheriff's office. Many of the club, DNR, & the Sheriff's Started the search. The club members knew what areas of the lake he fished 99 % of the time. The Sheriff's helicopter  spotted his boat above the 95 bridge & started looking up there. The guys new better  & stayed to the lower end of the lake knowing that the wind would have blown the boat that way that night. The Sheriff's People were looking up there to make sure. Jerry's older son & a club member went up to get the boat. When they got back to the landing one of the club saw that his life jacket & phone were laying on the drivers seat. so he look on his phone & saw where had caught of good fish & from the back round knew where he was. A few hours they found his body floating in the canal. Thank GOD the gators did not get him.

I was not trying to be a smart a--. Just reminding people that S--- happens. With these light weight inflatable jackets I always wear it when the engine is running & the kill switch is hooked up to it. I fish pretty much during the week so most times I am alone so my life jacket is always on. Better to be safe then to have your family to be sorry. It does not cost you one red cent to wear it. One last thing I can also Swim. 

 

 

[TnRiver46]

Why would you need to walk a frog? They eat them pretty good when they are sitting still 

[J Francho]

It took me around 20 years of fishing frogs before I learned to walk them.  I caught fish all along trying.