To those familiar with seine nets - I need your expertise

[Ohioguy25]

I am injured and so am unable to wade the water catching crawdads like I was. I am having trouble with the traps and there is too much of a learning curve on the cast net.  Would it be possible to use a small seine net from my kayak, like anchor it into the shallow riverbed right along the rocky bank and start flipping rocks and then get them out? 

[TnRiver46]

I always use one guy to hold the net and the other guy to kick. And the more aggressive the kicking, the more bait you catch. 

 

[Ohioguy25]

On 9/2/2020 at 12:37 PM, TnRiver46 said:

I always use one guy to hold the net and the other guy to kick. And the more aggressive the kicking, the more bait you catch. 

 

Being that I usually go alone I ordered the 4x4 frabill. Think that should work still? What size poles should I get?

[TnRiver46]

9 minutes ago, Ohioguy25 said:

Being that I usually go alone I ordered the 4x4 frabill. Think that should work still? What size poles should I get?

I just use sticks from the woods or golf clubs with no heads haha

[Ohioguy25]

4 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said:

I just use sticks from the woods or golf clubs with no heads haha

Haha. Will it be difficult to operate by myself? Is there a way to anchor it into the ground on the beach? Is 4 or 8 big enough or what size do you recommend? Do I need 12?

[TnRiver46]

8 minutes ago, Ohioguy25 said:

Haha. Will it be difficult to operate by myself? Is there a way to anchor it into the ground on the beach? Is 4 or 8 big enough or what size do you recommend? Do I need 12?

Smaller the better if you are solo. It will be tricky for sure, , I know of no way to anchor them. You have to Jam the poles into the rocks in fast water and kick/flip rocks upstream of the net. Best way is one man holding the poles and the other man kicking rocks 

[Ohioguy25]

3 hours ago, TnRiver46 said:

Smaller the better if you are solo. It will be tricky for sure, , I know of no way to anchor them. You have to Jam the poles into the rocks in fast water and kick/flip rocks upstream of the net. Best way is one man holding the poles and the other man kicking rocks 

You telling me to kick rocks? ? 

 

Jk, yeah got both the 8 and 4 foot Frabill on Prime, arrive tomorrow gonna start w the 4 I’ll let you know how it goes!

[Talio]

So I created something like this as a prototype for fly fishing.  What I did was get a paint strainer, cut a ring out of a soda bottle and duct taped 20lbs test line to it along with a 3oz sinker.  It worked for bugs.  Can't speak to crawfish, but maybe this will inspire an idea.  Paint strainers are basically just seine nets only they cost like a buck.

[Ohioguy25]

3 hours ago, TnRiver46 said:

Smaller the better if you are solo. It will be tricky for sure, , I know of no way to anchor them. You have to Jam the poles into the rocks in fast water and kick/flip rocks upstream of the net. Best way is one man holding the poles and the other man kicking rocks 

How long do I want the poles to be? Trying to find some telescoping metal poles on amazon.

 

Ordered this to anchor on shore! Should work great.

 

https://www.amazon.com/Beachr-Beach-Umbrella-Anchor-Strong/dp/B014RQZZC0

[TnRiver46]

Well most of them are 4 by something so I would get poles slightly over 4.5 feet to have a little wiggle room. I can’t imagine how that anchor would work but you never know. Those are for beach umbrellas. You have to put the poles in the river bed, I also wouldn’t spend money on poles but I’m cheap. Tree branches work fine 

[Ohioguy25]

8 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said:

Well most of them are 4 by something so I would get poles slightly over 4.5 feet to have a little wiggle room. I can’t imagine how that anchor would work but you never know. Those are for beach umbrellas. You have to put the poles in the river bed, I also wouldn’t spend money on poles but I’m cheap. Tree branches work fine 

So how do they attach to the poles, would I not be able to slide one of the poles down in that? Can you think of a better way to anchor it?

[TnRiver46]

4 minutes ago, Ohioguy25 said:

So how do they attach to the poles, would I not be able to slide one of the poles down in that? Can you think of a better way to anchor it?

I would think even if you anchored it the current might knock it over. Maybe put river rocks around the base of the poles? The seine comes with strings that you tie to the poles. As far as the anchor, I just don’t see myself being able to screw that thing into a rocky river bottom but then again I’ve never tried. They are somewhat difficult to screw into the sandy beach along the ocean haha

[Ohioguy25]

12 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said:

I would think even if you anchored it the current might knock it over. Maybe put river rocks around the base of the poles? The seine comes with strings that you tie to the poles. As far as the anchor, I just don’t see myself being able to screw that thing into a rocky river bottom but then again I’ve never tried. They are somewhat difficult to screw into the sandy beach along the ocean haha

Oh ok haha, you think a tent stake might work better?

[TnRiver46]

2 minutes ago, Ohioguy25 said:

Oh ok haha, you think a tent stake might work better?

I can’t think of any practical way to anchor them, I would recruit a buddy 

 

[Ohioguy25]

12 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said:

I can’t think of any practical way to anchor them, I would recruit a buddy 

 

Lol you think that anchor would really be difficult to get in the ground? Why wouldn’t tent stakes work? Would these be good poles? I need something collapsible as I’m storing in my kayak.

https://www.amazon.com/Outry-Collapsible-Trekking-Walking-Hiking/dp/B077HSLHH6

 

[TnRiver46]

6 minutes ago, Ohioguy25 said:

Lol you think that anchor would really be difficult to get in the ground? Why wouldn’t tent stakes work? Would these be good poles? I need something collapsible as I’m storing in my kayak.

https://www.amazon.com/Outry-Collapsible-Trekking-Walking-Hiking/dp/B077HSLHH6

 

I guess it depends on what kind of substrate you are screwing it into. I definitely can’t imagine how a tent stake would help 

[Ohioguy25]

57 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said:

I guess it depends on what kind of substrate you are screwing it into. I definitely can’t imagine how a tent stake would help 

Yeah, there are plenty of spots along the shore with mud and dirt, if they hold firm in sand I can’t imagine why they wouldn’t in mud.

[Ohioguy25]

3 hours ago, TnRiver46 said:

I guess it depends on what kind of substrate you are screwing it into. I definitely can’t imagine how a tent stake would help 

I had a guy at the fishing store tell me I wanted the poles to be 2-3 ft taller than the seine net, is that true or should I be fine w a 51-53” pole on a 4x8 ft net? I found some collapsible trekking poles that would be much easier to take w me in my kayak, you think they would work well?

[Ohioguy25]

4 hours ago, TnRiver46 said:

I guess it depends on what kind of substrate you are screwing it into. I definitely can’t imagine how a tent stake would help 

https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-WT1003-67-Inch-Monopod/dp/B00FAYL1YU

 

Is this too long? 

[TnRiver46]

17 hours ago, Ohioguy25 said:

I had a guy at the fishing store tell me I wanted the poles to be 2-3 ft taller than the seine net, is that true or should I be fine w a 51-53” pole on a 4x8 ft net? I found some collapsible trekking poles that would be much easier to take w me in my kayak, you think they would work well?

Trek pole would be ideal 

[Ohioguy25]

11 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said:

Trek pole would be ideal 

Ok, what about the length though would it be necessary or easier to use with an additional foot of length above the net or is 3-5 inches sufficient? Most of the trekking poles are 51-53” max.

[scaleface]

I did a lot of seining by myself . I rolled up a long seine so I could handle it . I got in the current and would hold one pole pretty still and  move the other back and forth slightly upstream of it . then move up a step and repeat .  It takes a little while to get the hang of it but its doable .