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Let me preface this by saying I'm in no way shape or form insinuating that these baits don't work.

So the newest on fire lure is the maxscent flat worm. Every tourney result I've read in the last several weeks has at least 7 or 8 guys touting this worm. Did all the dropshot baits guys used for years stop working simultaneously?This trendiness has always annoyed me in everything especially in fishing. It's like the new hot bait comes out and some how people think the bass know about it and it's the only bait they hit. Guess I just dont get it. The red craw jackhammer is another one I remember recently. I'm sure it works...all red baits do in spring and chatterbaits work period. But this color caught ? no pun and all of a sudden guys were paying $30, $40 even $50 in ebay for one. Did everybody think bass stopped eating red craw traps and squarebills this spring? Just doesn't compute with me.

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  • Super User
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I agree!  This flat worm craze is out of control.  It's just a worm.  No better than any other worm. 

 

I should probably mention that I've got some on order just in case I'm wrong.

 

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  • Super User
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7 minutes ago, Tennessee Boy said:

I should probably mention that I've got some on order just in case I'm wrong.

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While I like old school stuff my self, maybe some of these fads aren't so bad.  I just got back into fishing this year, in the past I typically only used spinner baits, rattle traps, and t-riged lizards and the occasional worm. However I saw a bunch of stuff on frog fishing, looked like a ball on the youtube, so I picked up a frog rod and some frogs and I have caught more frog fish this summer than everything else combined. So maybe a mix of new and old isn't so bad.  

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I am just getting back in to fishing after 15 years. It is amazing the lures / presentations I used waaaay back then still catch fish today : ) 

 

Uncle of mine had a saying...it went something like this...

 

"...most lures are designed to catch fishermen...not fish..."

 

 

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  • Super User
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10 minutes ago, Str8BraidPowa said:

While I like old school stuff my self, maybe some of these fads aren't so bad.  I just got back into fishing this year, in the past I typically only used spinner baits, rattle traps, and t-riged lizards and the occasional worm. However I saw a bunch of stuff on frog fishing, looked like a ball on the youtube, so I picked up a frog rod and some frogs and I have caught more frog fish this summer than everything else combined. So maybe a mix of new and old isn't so bad.  

In a way I agree the fad's are good...especially with all the new people following youtube instead of places like this here forum. The past couple years I've gone behind lots of people..namely younger college age guys...saying they aren't catching crap on chatterbaits or googan bandito bugs. I roll in when they walk away with a spinnerbait and a flipping jig...you know both old guy baits that don't work anymore...and proceed to give a free lesson. Straight up beat down. This has happened more than once.

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  • Super User
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It's all just FOMO.  Every new lure that comes out that produces one or two fish for an angler is the next chatterbait until proven otherwise.  They're not all jumping on the new lure because it's proven better.  They're jumping on it because they don't want to get left behind in case it is better.  It's fear-based, pack mentality.  Much like if you're in a crowd and suddenly you see everyone running in one direction, you're tendency is to follow them even if you don't know why.  The fear of getting left behind is stronger than the fear of making an uninformed decision.  

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55 minutes ago, DaubsNU1 said:

I am just getting back in to fishing after 15 years. It is amazing the lures / presentations I used waaaay back then still catch fish today : ) 

 

Uncle of mine had a saying...it went something like this...

 

"...most lures are designed to catch fishermen...not fish..."

 

 

It was 30 years for me. Got back into fishing in May. I was amazed at how many different types of lures (and changes to older lures) are out now. And yet I caught a nice bass on a 40 YO plastic worm and just caught a bass on a 30+ YO jig lol. 

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45 minutes ago, Bankc said:

It's all just FOMO.  Every new lure that comes out that produces one or two fish for an angler is the next chatterbait until proven otherwise.  They're not all jumping on the new lure because it's proven better.  They're jumping on it because they don't want to get left behind in case it is better.  It's fear-based, pack mentality.  Much like if you're in a crowd and suddenly you see everyone running in one direction, you're tendency is to follow them even if you don't know why.  The fear of getting left behind is stronger than the fear of making an uninformed decision.  

This reminds me of a saying...a person is smart but people are stupid. 

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  • Super User
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Lure companies not only advertise their products to catch fish, but they often catch the angler's wallet too.  When pros start winning tournaments with them, the demand skyrockets.  I believe Hank Cherry caught a lot of his bass using a red chatterbait in the Classic this spring, that is why red has been in high demand.

 

I can remember when the whopper plopper first hit the market.  People couldn't buy them fast enough because someone won a tournament using it on the Elites.  Then new sizes came out and people had to buy those too.  I admit I got sucked into that hype and bought a few and I now regret doing so.

 

This season, fishing tackle in general has been significantly harder to come by because more people are fishing and components are having issues with supply chains.

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Berkley no doubt puts out a good product. I fish some older obsoleted finesse worms and still have days where I kick butt with them. Their product some how stays fresh and soft. 
 

They have a few soft plastics I with they would reintroduce. 

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1 hour ago, NYWayfarer said:

All new lures want to be the next GYBC Senko.

:) :) :) Thats It!

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58 minutes ago, gimruis said:

I can remember when the whopper plopper first hit the market.  People couldn't buy them fast enough because someone won a tournament using it on the Elites.  Then new sizes came out and people had to buy those too.  I admit I got sucked into that hype and bought a few and I now regret doing so.

I regret nothing!

 

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4 hours ago, Spankey said:

Berkley no doubt puts out a good product. I fish some older obsoleted finesse worms and still have days where I kick butt with them. Their product some how stays fresh and soft. 
 

They have a few soft plastics I with they would reintroduce. 

There version of the slider worm in solid black is what I want back.

 

Allen

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I agree there are “fad” lures out there, but I will say the Maxscent flatworm and flatnose minnow have been my only drop shot baits for the last two years. They are absolutely like crack for big smallmouth up here. I’ve caught so many big fish and numbers on them, it’s hard to try anything else, at least when a drop shot is the rig to use. 

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1 hour ago, Way north bass guy said:

I agree there are “fad” lures out there, but I will say the Maxscent flatworm and flatnose minnow have been my only drop shot baits for the last two years. They are absolutely like crack for big smallmouth up here. I’ve caught so many big fish and numbers on them, it’s hard to try anything else, at least when a drop shot is the rig to use. 

I wasn't saying trendy like they don't work or that they will go away or lose favor. I'm just commenting on how all of a sudden everybody in the world has to have them at the exact same time.

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I've often been blown away at the prices people are willing to pay for hard to find items.  When kvd won the classic on the chartreuse black 1.5 guys were paying crazy money for em on the bay. The flatworm is just the latest. Supply and demand at its finest.  I'll admit I'm sometimes curious enough to try these baits but I'll wait until they're normal prices again.  I own way too much tackle and still find myself catching the majority of my fish on the same things I've caught em on for years. The whole bass fishing scene is a wonder in and of itself lol

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  • Super User
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The only "hype" bait that absolutely sold me head over heels was the whopper plopper when it really blew up a while back. Without exaggeration I probably fished with it exclusively over 50% of the time one summer. I couldn't put it down cause it just kept working, and worked and worked and worked no matter the conditions. Was it the best bait to be using all the time, probably not but I knew eventually I'd get a bite and the hits were (and still are) explosive. I don't use it as much anymore but it's remained a staple for me. 

 

The swimbait world is probably the worst offender for hype baits. Not that there aren't some amazing baits out there but when you have such limited quantities available, instagram videos of people smashing huge fish on them, and the "afraid to lose it, I gotta have a back-up (or 5)" factor you get crazy demand for some of these baits. 

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57 minutes ago, DitchPanda said:

I wasn't saying trendy like they don't work or that they will go away or lose favor. I'm just commenting on how all of a sudden everybody in the world has to have them at the exact same time.

I think that’s just the way it is with everything nowadays thanks to social media. Seems like everything is instantaneous and spreads like wildfire, even if it isn’t true or useful in any way. If a lure gets any success in a tournament, seems like the whole world knows about it before the guy even gets his rods back in the locker at the end of the tournament ?

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Marketing pure and simple. Design a bait or technique that they can tout as the new secret. Build some mystery to it, some professional media attention, and let people pick up the trend. 

 

Ie the Ned rig, old tried and true technique reborn with elastic soft baits. And it works too, I got really into the Ned rig and am successful with it. But I also got away from the core ideology that midwest finesse is based on frugality. I like nice gear and lots of baits, but at the end of the day it's not necessary. But you gotta have a little fun in life :)

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10 hours ago, NYWayfarer said:

All new lures want to be the next GYBC Senko.

This is the biggest scam trend of them all...

 

 

  • Super User
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I could care less what lure is considered ''trendy'' or what some sponsored YouTuber tells me what to use. I have been fishing long enough and caught enough fish to know that it is best to fish with lures that have proven themselves to me. Trends come and go but old school techniques work as good today as they did many years ago.

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Remember when Teckel Sprinkers were selling for $80 each?? I stumbled into 3 of them for retail and kept them because I didn't want to miss out. Man I'd love to hit rewind and do that over again, I'd love to have the new rod or reel I could have bought for the money I'd made selling those 3 stupid frogs. They work, but what was I thinking?? ?‍♂️

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