Actual weight capacity of the Bass Raider 10e? Confused...

[Marc Hufnagel]

Ok, just picked up a Bass Raider 10e today from Academy.      I'm really confused by what I am finding about weight capacity.

 

The product description says 600# capacity, then a few lines down it says 400# and up.    THEN Pelican says 600# in a video on their site.    I figure I understand it's 600#, people, all gear and whatever motor (trolling/outboard).    

 

NOW, after a contactless pickup in the back of my truck and getting home, there is a sticker on the inside of the boat that mentions US Coast guard capacity/limit is 2 persons or 395 #, OR 420 with PEOPLE, GEAR and a 6HP motor.   Everywhere else it says max is a 3.5hp.    How can you get 2 people, gear and a 6hp outboard on this boat unless it's 2 young kids?   So, 600 or 420/395?

 

Also they show people standing up in the boat and then in the owner's manual say never to stand... ahhh this is not making a lot of sense..

 

 

[Born 2 fish]

I can tell you this much I have a 50lb Battery, trolling motor a bag of gear I weigh 220 my buddy that fishes with me is 230. He also brings a bag of gear and the boat is perfectly fine. I stand in it all the time when I’m by myself.

[Dirtyeggroll]

420 lbs is the limit. What comprises that limit does not matter. The coast guard sticker has the final say for legal and insurance purposes.

[Marc Hufnagel]

6 hours ago, Dirtyeggroll said:

420 lbs is the limit. What comprises that limit does not matter. The coast guard sticker has the final say for legal and insurance purposes.

Then why are they stating in videos and product descriptions that it is 600?   Pretty deceptive I'd say since that label is in one corner of the inside of the boat.   I didn't see it until we were home and academy says 'all sales final once you sign'.    Seems I have to have some recourse.

[Dirtyeggroll]

8 hours ago, Marc Hufnagel said:

Then why are they stating in videos and product descriptions that it is 600?   Pretty deceptive I'd say since that label is in one corner of the inside of the boat.   I didn't see it until we were home and academy says 'all sales final once you sign'.    Seems I have to have some recourse.

I don’t know. Maybe they mean total weight including the boat. But the coast guard approval will be the final say for any legal or insurance matter.

[Marc Hufnagel]

15 hours ago, Dirtyeggroll said:

I don’t know. Maybe they mean total weight including the boat. But the coast guard approval will be the final say for any legal or insurance matter.

I called Pelican this morning and was told that they are built in Canada and would not be putting a USCG sticker on it.    They asked that I send a picture of the sticker to them for their 'senior team' to see so I did. 

 

Then called the General Manager of the Academy store where we got it and had a conversation with him about it and he was only able to tell me what Pelican tells them -- 600 total.     He said if it were him he would not know which to go with - did offer to allow a return if I so desired based on that.     Not wanting to return it but do wish I know why that is on there if it's built to 600 capacity.

 

ugh.

[MN Fisher]

18 minutes ago, Marc Hufnagel said:

I called Pelican this morning and was told that they are built in Canada and would not be putting a USCG sticker on it.

Actually - Illinois requires a capacity plate on any water vessel propelled by motor or oars and capable of carrying 2 or more people. So Pelican saying the boat doesn't need one is wrong.

 

B. Capacity plates.
        (1) Every vessel less than 26 feet in length,

    

designed to carry 2 or more persons and to be propelled by machinery as its principal source of power or designed to be propelled by oars shall, if manufactured or offered for sale in this State, have affixed permanently thereto by the manufacturer a capacity plate as required by this Section. As used in this Section, "manufacture" means to construct or assemble a vessel or alter a vessel in such manner as to change its weight capacity.

 

https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/fulltext.asp?DocName=062500450K5-4

[Marc Hufnagel]

3 hours ago, MN Fisher said:

Actually - Illinois requires a capacity plate on any water vessel propelled by motor or oars and capable of carrying 2 or more people. So Pelican saying the boat doesn't need one is wrong.

 

B. Capacity plates.
        (1) Every vessel less than 26 feet in length,

    

designed to carry 2 or more persons and to be propelled by machinery as its principal source of power or designed to be propelled by oars shall, if manufactured or offered for sale in this State, have affixed permanently thereto by the manufacturer a capacity plate as required by this Section. As used in this Section, "manufacture" means to construct or assemble a vessel or alter a vessel in such manner as to change its weight capacity.

 

https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/fulltext.asp?DocName=062500450K5-4

Interesting.    Now with that, it was sold in Missouri and I am in Illinois.    I shall look for similar regulations.    

[MN Fisher]

2 minutes ago, Marc Hufnagel said:

Interesting.    Now with that, it was sold in Missouri and I am in Illinois.    I shall look for similar regulations.    

Did you pick it up in Missouri or was it shipped to you?

[Marc Hufnagel]

1 minute ago, MN Fisher said:

Did you pick it up in Missouri or was it shipped to you?

Drove over and picked it up from a retail Academy store in Missouri.

[Marc Hufnagel]

Ok mystery solved.   It has the incorrect sticker on it; it has one from a lesser-capacity boat in their lineup.   It is in very fine print at the bottom of the sticker.     Now that is solved but they cannot provide me with a correct one.   Ugh.