Superline question

[Esox pro]

I just spooled up my new reel with 14lb nanofil and i felt these bumps on the line they weren't nicks or frays so i wondered if it mattered 

[roadwarrior]

Nanofil is a recipe for disaster.

 

[Esox pro]

Usually use leaders tackle advisors no tag Alberto knot or using salt strong  braid palomar for tying direct works for me their braid uni failed me as has the uni several times 

people that have palomar fail them dont tie it correctly which is pretty hard to do

no offense uni knot guys 

nanofil is a line that once you get good at knots is the best for casting distance 

[RoLo]

11 minutes ago, roadwarrior said:

Nanofil is a recipe for disaster.

 

 

OUCH, a rare line condition known as "Taylor Unicorns"

 

[Mike L]

New or used, If it’s not absolutely smooth I wouldn’t use it. 
 

 

 

Mike

[Bass Rutten]

I went through 4, 10, and 12 lb last year and will never buy again. It performs well enough, one of the smoothest casting lines I’ve used actually, but begins to fray in short order, has wind knot issues (line conditioner is a must), and you’re knot game must be spot on. I couldn’t trust any knot without a little dab of superglue. I use an Alberto with a rizutto finish for my leaders. It was the most high maintenance braided line I’ve ever used. 

[Esox pro]

Probably weren't cinching your knots 100%

[Team9nine]

22 minutes ago, Bassjam2000 said:

I went through 4, 10, and 12 lb last year and will never buy again. It performs well enough, one of the smoothest casting lines I’ve used actually, but begins to fray in short order, has wind knot issues (line conditioner is a must), and you’re knot game must be spot on. I couldn’t trust any knot without a little dab of superglue. I use an Alberto with a rizutto finish for my leaders. It was the most high maintenance braided line I’ve ever used. 

Ditto ^^

 

Tried it hard for a year and a half. Lots of things to like about it, but in the end, it’s knot strength and peculiarities did it in. I play on the margins, so not much room for error. Have friends who have seemed to do fine with it once you get into the higher pound tests...just wasn’t for me.

 

That said, the “bumps” might just be from being on the spool (?) since it’s not a level wound line? Just guessing, because I don’t recall having anything similar with all the spools I tried.

[waymont]

4 hours ago, Esox pro said:

Usually use leaders tackle advisors no tag Alberto knot or using salt strong  braid palomar for tying direct works for me their braid uni failed me as has the uni several times 

people that have palomar fail them dont tie it correctly which is pretty hard to do

no offense uni knot guys 

nanofil is a line that once you get good at knots is the best for casting distance 

Homie, how about some punctuation please.

[JustJames]

I’m also use Nanofil hard this year for both bass 8-12lb and panfish 4-6lb. I actually like it a lot for it super light weight. I caught quite a bit number of 3-4lb bass with the line using simple double uni knot (7wraps on nanofil, 5wraps #8 izorline). Yes line fray pretty easily and leader is a must. I like this line for Nekorig and Ned rig where I have rod tip high and shaking all the time. I switch to braid and I can feel weight of braid make the shaking not as smooth. 

[Lmsmbassaddict]

On 8/9/2020 at 8:50 PM, Bassjam2000 said:

I went through 4, 10, and 12 lb last year and will never buy again. It performs well enough, one of the smoothest casting lines I’ve used actually, but begins to fray in short order, has wind knot issues (line conditioner is a must), and you’re knot game must be spot on. I couldn’t trust any knot without a little dab of superglue. I use an Alberto with a rizutto finish for my leaders. It was the most high maintenance braided line I’ve ever used. 

I'm just wondering why you rizzuto finish an Alberto knot? I'm not saying your wrong or going it wrong and I'm not taking a shot at you personally. I feel like I have to say that because most people don't like to talk about line, knots, religion, and politics. 

 

I'm just kidding kind of. 

 

I just don't see the point. If you are worried about fraying issues or the knot coming undone why not just pass your tag through the loop 2 more times and it solves that issues ?. 

 

What ever works for you though, I am a sort of line/knot connoisseur.

[Bass Rutten]

@Lmsmbassaddict Knots, religion and politics, lol! I can sum it up in three words, er letters actually... ocd. Really though, I just like the extra security, and being able to cut the tag flush, I put a tiny dab of superglue right b4 I cinch the rizutto, not super necessary but gives me extra confidence.

[Lmsmbassaddict]

5 minutes ago, Bassjam2000 said:

@Lmsmbassaddict Knots, religion and politics, lol! I can sum it up in three words, er letters actually... ocd. Really though, I just like the extra security, and being able to cut the tag flush, I put a tiny dab of superglue right b4 I cinch the rizutto, not super necessary but gives me extra confidence.

Brother, what ever works for you. I'm not trying to change ya! ? I only wanna help.

[Bass Rutten]

No worries or offense taken, I don’t mind constructive criticism, I may even try your suggestion. I had some breakoffs when I switched from the uni-uni to the Alberto which didn’t help.

[Lmsmbassaddict]

10 minutes ago, Bassjam2000 said:

No worries or offense taken, I don’t mind constructive criticism, I may even try your suggestion. I had some breakoffs when I switched from the uni-uni to the Alberto which didn’t help.

Yeah if you go through the loop at the end 3 times you can get really close without having to worry about a snap off. The regular Alberto just doesn't hold up like when you pass the tag on through 3 times. I'm something like a knot and line savant. I can look at a knot for a few seconds and tie a perfect one the first try now. 

 

You want to know what I use over that knot? There FG with a rizzuto finish. The FG isn't the strongest knot like everyone says it is. It's definitely up there and it's slim. But the knot I created which is basically an altered gt mixed with an Alberto beats the FG half the time. 

 

If I was using leaders I would probably stick with the FG, my knot, Alberto and red Phillips. Those are the best of the best. If tied correctly you will never see break offs bass fishing. 

 

If you need help please just ask. I've also found some knots work better on different brands but not too the degree we really need to worry about except with nanofil which is straight trash. There are too many good 8 carrier lines available to have to use that stuff. Again, if you work long enough with it, you can get it working for you, but why when Berkley makes the new x9 which nukes any line they've ever made out of the water except pro spec. 

[Lmsmbassaddict]

On 8/9/2020 at 9:18 PM, Team9nine said:

Ditto ^^

 

Tried it hard for a year and a half. Lots of things to like about it, but in the end, it’s knot strength and peculiarities did it in. I play on the margins, so not much room for error. Have friends who have seemed to do fine with it once you get into the higher pound tests...just wasn’t for me.

 

That said, the “bumps” might just be from being on the spool (?) since it’s not a level wound line? Just guessing, because I don’t recall having anything similar with all the spools I tried.

Nanofil is the most consistent line I've ever used. Although not in the way you would think. It's extremely consistent in being total garbage. Of course any line you play with you can make work for you. They had to r & d a knot specifically for that line because it doesn't hold a knot at all. I've seen complaint after complaint and usually I take that with a grain of salt. But in this case I was experiencing the same things people where complaining about. 

 

I think I'm gonna have to hard pass any line that you have to use a special knot just to use so long as there are lines like x5 & x9, power pro, jbraid, pro spec if you can find it still, and smackdown. 

 

I wouldn't feel right with myself to speak good on a line so terrible. That kind of stuff loses people fish. 

 

If anyone likes nanofil that's completely fine by me, but you owe it to this place up not just recommend the line, now you have to tell them all the caveats. 

[Esox pro]

 Personally never had a problem casts great

just test your knots and take your time when tying and cinch them tightly 

just was wondering if i had a bad spool

[livin2fish]

I used a couple of spools of Nanofil and mostly liked it.  Didn't have any problems with leader knots.  Had a few wind knots, but the reason for changing to Fins Windtamer was, Nanofil being so light, I didn't like the way it ballooned in the wind.  I do not feel the change cost me casting distance.  May have improved my accuracy, which to me is more important.  To answer your direct question, I never got a spool with bumps on the line.  Don't believe I'd use it.

[QUAKEnSHAKE]

Nanofil is my line of choice for spinning. Yes the recommended knot sucks. I found a knot that works, increases knot strength by 50% over rated strength and havent had knot failure with years of use dont use leader. Nanofil is not a braid so shouldnt be compared to them. Its not for everyone but it works great for me and thats all that matters.

The bumps Im not sure about. I have two 4# spools, one 6# spool, three 8# spools including a 1500yd and checked them no bumps so maybe due with higher test dont know.

 

[Esox pro]

Just curious i got 14 lb test maybe the coating was uneven

[JustJames]

The last 20 bass or so 1-4lb caught was on this 8lb nanofil and none have knot slip issue with 7-8wraps double uni knot. Just last night I tried to lift 2lb bass and leader broke at the hook (8lb izorline to 8lb Nanofil), maybe because I haven’t re-tie  from the last few Bass. The wind knot issue can be prevent by stop the line before lure hit water. 
You know what, PM me if you want to sell Nanofil, I’m in need of 4 and 6lb.

[Lmsmbassaddict]

5 hours ago, Bass_Fishing_Socal said:

The last 20 bass or so 1-4lb caught was on this 8lb nanofil and none have knot slip issue with 7-8wraps double uni knot. Just last night I tried to pull 2lb bass and leader broke at the hook (8lb izorline to 8lb Nanofil), maybe because I haven’t retire from the last few Bass. The wind knot issue can be prevent by stop the line before lure hit water. 
You know what, PM me if you want to sell Nanofil, I’m in need of 4 and 6lb.

I always check after each catch, and if I'm fishing heavy structure I check it every so often. I gave the nanofil away that I had left. I'm saving up right now to get a few spools for more testing. I broke my scale, so I'm waiting on the one I want to come back in stock. I put it through hell, it finally gave up. 

 

I wonder if anyone on here is interested in me doing line testing. That way we can eliminate the guessing work for people that are not as familiar. Now adays it can be pretty overwhelming to stare at the big line rack. I also have a PDF pamphlet I made just for the new guys. 

[roadwarrior]

16 minutes ago, aquaholik said:

And yes I love Nanofil and Fireline. 

This is why we have so many choices. "Different strokes for different folks".

 

[aquaholik]

2 minutes ago, roadwarrior said:

This is why we have so many choices. "Different strokes for different folks".

 

Oh and yes, both line does fray and is super slick when new and knots are a pain in the ass. Even FG knot. So it's a no no if your leader choice is less than 15 lbs. All other line to line knot besides FG, PR knot and Bimini are relatively weak..50% with Nanofil.

 

I normally use 25-30 leader with Nanofil 10-12 and Fireline 8-10 lbs. I can hand off the spinning reel to my kids and he'll never bother me with windknot and tip wraps when jigging artificials. Unlike braid, it does fray and loses 20-30% strength but guess what, worn out Power Pro, Pro Spec, J braid, Stren Superbraid, Suffix 832, Samurai braid....every single braid loses 20-30% of its true ABS once the coating wears off and it starts to get fuzzy.

On 8/9/2020 at 6:58 PM, Esox pro said:

I just spooled up my new reel with 14lb nanofil and i felt these bumps on the line they weren't nicks or frays so i wondered if it mattered 

Your 14 lbs actually breaks at 26 lbs. Your FG knot strength should be at least 20 lbs. Tie a 25 lbs leader for testing and attach that to a 15 lbs dumbbell. You should be able to easily lift that dumbbell off the ground. Wear a safety goggle when testing. It will be hard to tie 14 lbs Nanofil to leader less than 15 lbs using FG knot. Scrape the coating off first.

 

[Esox pro]

Im just asking if i should get a new batch or not worry about it