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Looking for recommendations for a stand up shakey head jig for thicker 6-7 inch worms (Flute worm, Yum Genie, etc.).   I usually fish 3/16 oz - and am thinking ideally a 4/0 wide gap hook.  Not set on this - open to ideas, brands, etc.  Thx

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On 8/8/2020 at 9:28 AM, roadwarrior said:

https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Megastrike_Shake2_Shakey_Head_4pk/descpage-MSSH.html

 

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I have some I'll never use. Send me your address and you can have them for free.

Wow, that’s very nice!  PM sent?

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I see Megastruke makes an EWG too, but doesn’t say hook size.  It has a screw-lock which can be good or bad.  
 

I look forward to using them but open to other suggestions too...

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A jika rigged worm gives you nearly the same presentation and comes through junk cleaner. It’s easy to make your own and let’s you use your hook of choice. It’s pretty much replaced shaky and texas rigs for me.

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Don't overlook a swinging football head for those types of worms either. I like to fish those, and even larger worms, on swinging heads and just drag them on the bottom.

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I've using a new one a few guys here on Table Rock have started making call 5 Fish. I like the 1/2 oz.

The paints not the best but it's got a good hook and I like the centering pin.

 

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Most of the time I like Shakey Heads that help the bait stand up as straight as possible.  The standard and wide gap mega strike heads are good heads if you like screw locks and as long as the bottom is somewhat level they present the worm close to a 90 degree angle.  The Secret Lures Wide Gap is a good head 2.  The position of the line tie makes the head pivot forward with tension and backwards on slack line.  I can give the bait alot of action without moving it very far at all.  Ive been using the zman products the past few years and you can get them on a screw lock but it can be tricky. I started trying out non screw lock SH.  For thinner baits like trick worms and senkos my absolute favorite is the Gamakatsu Trickey head.  It comes through grass and rocks well and it has a G-finesse hook that is just crazy sticky.  Most of the non screw lock EWG heads have trouble getting the bait to stand straight up.  If I have to have a bigger profile bait stand straight up I use the Cumberland Pro skip gap, its uses a 4/0 Gami skip gap hook.  Its not a thick wire hook but ive never had any issues with them bending.  The last 2 heads make the bait stand at about a 60 degree angle which is plenty most of the time and I think it makes the bait pendulum better on the fall.  The VMC rugby head works pretty well.  They make a finesse rugby head with a lighter wire hook that I use on lighter gear sometimes.  My favorite is EWG non screw lock SH is the Trokar Scorpion SH.  It has a plastic keeper on it that works well with most baits.  It has a football like head with a flat bottom.  Its got one of them 30* degree hooks that you see on jigs sometimes so its not a true EWG hook but its got more gap then a standard hook and has plenty of room for the GrandeBass Airtail Rattlers I like to throw.  These heads have worked for me so I hope this helps.     

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8 hours ago, Rusty_Shackleford said:

Most of the time I like Shakey Heads that help the bait stand up as straight as possible.  The standard and wide gap mega strike heads are good heads if you like screw locks and as long as the bottom is somewhat level they present the worm close to a 90 degree angle.  The Secret Lures Wide Gap is a good head 2.  The position of the line tie makes the head pivot forward with tension and backwards on slack line.  I can give the bait alot of action without moving it very far at all.  Ive been using the zman products the past few years and you can get them on a screw lock but it can be tricky. I started trying out non screw lock SH.  For thinner baits like trick worms and senkos my absolute favorite is the Gamakatsu Trickey head.  It comes through grass and rocks well and it has a G-finesse hook that is just crazy sticky.  Most of the non screw lock EWG heads have trouble getting the bait to stand straight up.  If I have to have a bigger profile bait stand straight up I use the Cumberland Pro skip gap, its uses a 4/0 Gami skip gap hook.  Its not a thick wire hook but ive never had any issues with them bending.  The last 2 heads make the bait stand at about a 60 degree angle which is plenty most of the time and I think it makes the bait pendulum better on the fall.  The VMC rugby head works pretty well.  They make a finesse rugby head with a lighter wire hook that I use on lighter gear sometimes.  My favorite is EWG non screw lock SH is the Trokar Scorpion SH.  It has a plastic keeper on it that works well with most baits.  It has a football like head with a flat bottom.  Its got one of them 30* degree hooks that you see on jigs sometimes so its not a true EWG hook but its got more gap then a standard hook and has plenty of room for the GrandeBass Airtail Rattlers I like to throw.  These heads have worked for me so I hope this helps.     

Excellent info - thx much!

3 hours ago, ike8120 said:

How does this head come through grass?  It looks a little “complicated” and could catch vegetation easier, but maybe not??

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46 minutes ago, Siebert Outdoors said:

Thank you, I’ve heard good things about your dredge jig.  What size hook is that?  

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5 minutes ago, Siebert Outdoors said:

3/16 is 4/0 and 1/4 & 3/8 is 5/0

Thx looks very good?

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6th Sense Divine Shakey Head 5/8 oz 7/0 hook

 

Double Z's Magnum T-Worm 

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1 hour ago, Catt said:

6th Sense Divine Shakey Head 5/8 oz 7/0 hook

 

Double Z's Magnum T-Worm 

Our fish in Minnesota aren't as big as that worm!!  lol

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On ‎8‎/‎10‎/‎2020 at 8:44 AM, FryDog62 said:

Excellent info - thx much!

How does this head come through grass?  It looks a little “complicated” and could catch vegetation easier, but maybe not??

Its shaped like an arrowhead somewhat and comes through surprisingly well.  If you feel it catching on grass give it a rip and it usually clears.  If I cant keep the grass off a SH I go to a Jika or chicken rig.

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On 8/9/2020 at 12:16 AM, Bluebasser86 said:

Don't overlook a swinging football head for those types of worms either. I like to fish those, and even larger worms, on swinging heads and just drag them on the bottom.

Do you make swing heads? I could use some. They are quite pricey in the store 

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5 hours ago, TnRiver46 said:

Do you make swing heads? I could use some. They are quite pricey in the store 

Yeah, that's why I started making them, way too expensive to buy.

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2 minutes ago, Bluebasser86 said:

Yeah, that's why I started making them, way too expensive to buy.

I’d gladly buy some of yours if you sell them 

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On 8/8/2020 at 6:28 PM, Bassjam2000 said:

A jika rigged worm gives you nearly the same presentation and comes through junk cleaner. It’s easy to make your own and let’s you use your hook of choice. It’s pretty much replaced shaky and texas rigs for me.

I’m intrigued, but wouldn’t you need a buoyant worm to make it work? I do realize that with shaky jig heads they would not truly stand up unless they hit bottom just right.

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21 minutes ago, 5/0 said:

I’m intrigued, but wouldn’t you need a buoyant worm to make it work? I do realize that with shaky jig heads they would not truly stand up unless they hit bottom just right.

Not really in my experience because the hook and worm is free-floating from the line and weight even non floating worms I’ve tried will stay horizontal to 45 or at least fall very very slowly from the initial vertical fall, and if they do lay down a few little wiggles or small lift is enough to perk it back up.

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7 minutes ago, Bassjam2000 said:

Not really in my experience because the hook and worm is free-floating from the line and weight even non floating worms I’ve tried will stay horizontal to 45 or at least fall very very slowly from the initial vertical fall, and if they do lay down a few little wiggles or small lift is enough to perk it back up.

I’ll have to give it a try, it’ll be something different to show the fish.

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