Ashtheduster Posted August 7, 2020 Posted August 7, 2020 This might be an unpopular choice for musky fishing, but can a abu garcia ambassadeur 4600 be used for musky on a 7ft medium heavy action rod? I wonder this because my uncle uses a abu garcia ambassadeur power 4 on a 7ft medium heavy action rod for musky. As fair as I can tell the power 4 and 4600 are the same size. Any input about this thought would be very useful information. Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted August 7, 2020 Global Moderator Posted August 7, 2020 I’ve caught 30 lbs striper with that set up and they pull much faster 1 Quote
Vilas15 Posted August 7, 2020 Posted August 7, 2020 It should work. I use a C3 6500 which really just gets you more line capacity. Theyve got a slow retrieve rate so with the even narrower spool you'll want to crank fast especially at the beginning of your retrieve. If anything you may want a heavier rod. Not sure what size baits youre going to use but a heavier rod would give you a better figure 8 and allow you to control the fish better/better hook sets. Beefier gear all around lessens the time to get the fish in the net making it less likely theyll come unhooked or also die from exhaustion in hot water after a long fight. Quote
Super User jimmyjoe Posted August 7, 2020 Super User Posted August 7, 2020 My first musky was caught on a M/F spinning rod with a Daiwa Fuego 2500 reel running 10 lb. test Sufix 832 line. I had no problems. I think a 4600 Ambassadeur reel has more power than a 2500 size spinning reel, both on cast and retrieve. I might be wrong about that, but I don't believe so. Musky aren't magic. They're just toothy fish. Wanna stress that 4600 a little? Fish for flathead. jj Quote
Super User soflabasser Posted August 7, 2020 Super User Posted August 7, 2020 That Abu Garcia Ambassadeur 4600 should be able to help you catch them just fine. If you want you can get a bigger reel for casting big lures but lots of muskie are caught on regular sized lures on bass gear. I have caught all my muskies on size 4000 spinning reels and never did any of those muskies pull more than 100 feet of line in the longest runs. Muskies are not as powerful as some might think. I use the same reels to fish for snook, tarpon, redfish, jack crevalle, and other fish that are much more powerful than a muskie. 2 Quote
Super User RoLo Posted August 7, 2020 Super User Posted August 7, 2020 1 hour ago, soflabasser said: That Abu Garcia Ambassadeur 4600 should be able to help you catch them just fine. If you want you can get a bigger reel for casting big lures but lots of muskie are caught on regular sized lures on bass gear. I have caught all my muskies on size 4000 spinning reels and never did any of those muskies pull more than 100 feet of line in the longest runs. Muskies are not as powerful as some might think. I use the same reels to fish for snook, tarpon, redfish, jack crevalle, and other fish that are much more powerful than a muskie. Yeah, pound for pound the jack crevalle is one tough monkey Muskies are just big pike. Roger 1 1 Quote
Super User soflabasser Posted August 8, 2020 Super User Posted August 8, 2020 1 hour ago, RoLo said: Yeah, pound for pound the jack crevalle is one tough monkey Muskies are just big pike. Roger Both muskie and pike are in the Esox family and both are very fun to catch but they are nowhere as strong as an equal sized jack crevalle or the other fish I mentioned earlier in this subject. There are many stories of fishermen catching +40 inch muskie on 6-8 pound test line on a normal sized spinning reel, that would be much harder to do on an equal sized inshore gamefish. 1 Quote
Ashtheduster Posted August 8, 2020 Author Posted August 8, 2020 Thank you for input, and information on what to use for musky fishing! Quote
Super User RoLo Posted August 8, 2020 Super User Posted August 8, 2020 6 hours ago, soflabasser said: There are many stories of fishermen catching +40 inch muskie on 6-8 pound test line on a normal sized spinning reel, that would be much harder to do on an equal sized inshore gamefish. So many vintage musky records have been proven fraudulent, that the World Musky Alliance wiped the slate clean. In 2006, the World Musky Alliance formed a new organization they named the "Modern-Day World-Record Musky Program" (MDMWRP). Six years later, the first musky was finally entered as the Modern-Day World-Record Muskellunge. The serpent weighed 58-lbs, measured 58" long, and was taken from Lake Bellaire, MI on Oct 13, 2012 by Joe Seeberger. Here's the best part. Joe Seeberger was not fishing for muskies, he was fishing for smallmouth bass. After a grueling ordeal, the 58-lb beast was finally landed on a Med Power Spinning Gear with 8-lb line. Let's hear for Spinning Tackle Roger 1 Quote
Vilas15 Posted August 9, 2020 Posted August 9, 2020 On 8/8/2020 at 1:45 AM, RoLo said: So many vintage musky records have been proven fraudulent, that the World Musky Alliance wiped the slate clean. In 2006, the World Musky Alliance formed a new organization they named the "Modern-Day World-Record Musky Program" (MDMWRP). Six years later, the first musky was finally entered as the Modern-Day World-Record Muskellunge. The serpent weighed 58-lbs, measured 58" long, and was taken from Lake Bellaire, MI on Oct 13, 2012 by Joe Seeberger. Here's the best part. Joe Seeberger was not fishing for muskies, he was fishing for smallmouth bass. After a grueling ordeal, the 58-lb beast was finally landed on a Med Power Spinning Gear with 8-lb line. Let's hear for Spinning Tackle Roger They fought the fish for 2 hours and took it straight to a taxidermist. Yes you can catch monsters on light line by being careful with the drag. Worth it for a catch of a lifetime for someone who doesn't fish muskies? Yes. If you intentionally target them with that kind of gear you will kill fish, and not be able to throw bigger baits that are a better option most of the time. You'll also get bit off: "This year, we got bit off probably 10 times" - from a story about that michigan fish. They do not fight like saltwater fish, no denying that. However they have big teeth requiring heavy duty leaders. Heavy rods are stiffer and don't flex when trying to figure 8 a hard pulling bait at the boat. The heavy duty reels are required to pull baits like double 10 bucktails at high speeds, and heavy line is required for big baits. I broke 80 lb sufix 832 when I backlashed and watched my 12 oz bulldawg sail into the sunset. Every piece is heavy duty for a reason if you really spend any time fishing for musky. For anyone looking to get into musky fishing there are certain concessions you can make since the stuff is not cheap, but are you going to be worried you half-assed your gear when you hook into the fish of a lifetime? 1 Quote
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