stocking bluegill in a trout pond.

[Bluegillslayer]

does anyone know the effects of stocking different sized bluegill in a pond that was only stocked with trout a few years ago. The trout fishing there can be really good at times but it would be cool to have two species in a pond walking distance from where I live. I dont know if the trout reproduce but I have found eggs in the one trout I took from there and have seen one trout smaller then all the rest (the average trout in there is 12 to 14 inches) would bluegill mess up the trout reproducing if they do? or eat up what the trout would eat? the pond is very deep and clear and does not have a lot of weeds. Thanks 

[MN Fisher]

First - before anything else - check with your state's DNR office. Stocking fish in any public water body falls under their jurisprudence and you have to get clearance from them to do this.

 

Some info on stocking Washington waters.

https://apps.oria.wa.gov/permithandbook/permitdetail/243

[Spankey]

Never heard about trouts ability to spawn in a pond. Thought it was to happen in rivers and streams. 

[Bluegillslayer]

5 hours ago, MN Fisher said:

First - before anything else - check with your state's DNR office. Stocking fish in any public water body falls under their jurisprudence and you have to get clearance from them to do this.

 

Some info on stocking Washington waters.

https://apps.oria.wa.gov/permithandbook/permitdetail/243

I would be moving bluegill from one private pond to the private trout pond I have access to fish.

I dont know if they actually spawn either but I have seen eggs in them and have hooked smaller trout

4 hours ago, Spankey said:

Never heard about trouts ability to spawn in a pond. Thought it was to happen in rivers and streams. 

 

[MN Fisher]

6 minutes ago, Bluegillslayer said:

I would be moving bluegill from one private pond to the private trout pond I have access to fish.

I looked a little deeper - even if it's a private pond, you still need to apply.

 

"Why do I need a fish stocking permit to stock fish in my own pond?

WDFW is trying to protect our native and important non-native fish species. The spread of stocked fish species can have a detrimental impact through predation or competition. Additionally, stocked fish species coming from commercial or wild sources may carry disease agents to waters that currently do not have them. By requiring a Fish Stocking Permit, WDFW biologists are able to look at these possibilities and make determinations on the risk to fish in the waters intended for stocking and any nearby state waters."

 

https://wdfw.wa.gov/licenses/fishing/fish-stocking-transport#

[slonezp]

Stocker trout in a pond don't reproduce. Eggs will develop in fish and their body will absorb them. Similar to a bird. An egg can be present but if it can't get fertilized, it is just an egg.

[Spankey]

11 hours ago, slonezp said:

Stocker trout in a pond don't reproduce. Eggs will develop in fish and their body will absorb them. Similar to a bird. An egg can be present but if it can't get fertilized, it is just an egg.

Thanks bub, that was my thought on the trouts. I’ve seen stream spawning trout over the years. 
 

But you can buy fingerling fish. Most breeds I guess and stock a pond. Probably best to do it legal but to each his own. Hard for me to believe some type of panfish is not already there. The trout are eating something. 
 

Why are the trout in that pond. And how long have they been in there? Trout will not tolerate warm water very well. 
 

These fish have held over a long time?

[Bluegillslayer]

13 hours ago, Spankey said:

Why are the trout in that pond. And how long have they been in there? Trout will not tolerate warm water very well. 

The trout are in the pond because the owners husband stocked it a couple years ago, I dont know why he stocked them. The water is vary cool. I dont know what they eat I have fished their for a while and never seen any other type of fish in the pond. And no one feeds them.

[Bluebasser86]

Playing "bucket biologist", is a really good way to spread diseases and ruin a fishery. Bluegill are going to directly compete with the trout for food as they're both mainly going to rely on small invertebrates, while offering very little to the trout since they'll only be small enough for the trout to eat for a very short while.

[Bluegillslayer]

Thanks everyone for the info, sounds like its not a good idea to move over the fish. 

[Spankey]

On 8/7/2020 at 9:07 PM, Bluegillslayer said:

The trout are in the pond because the owners husband stocked it a couple years ago, I dont know why he stocked them. The water is vary cool. I dont know what they eat I have fished their for a while and never seen any other type of fish in the pond. And no one feeds them.

Cooler pond explains that. I’ve seen on some of these smaller ponds they stock them for kids but I believe they want to be a put and take situation with them. But your survival rate with them is great. Catch them and grill them.