Random thought about fluorocarbon

[Todd2]

My line was getting low of my old clear blue mono, so I dug into my little cooler and realized I had some fluorocarbon left on a spool so I put it on. I hadn't used it since switching over to Tungsten and wanted to feel it. Very sensitive combination. I could feel everything. But I had a very bad night..the bite was off. Had a lot of short strikes. Its weird, you get used to the way a line feels and something different throws you off.

 

But here's the question, I'm around 200lbs and when I feel that hit with fluoro, it without a doubt seems magnified over what it does with mono. But...isn't that same extra pressure (for lack of a better word) being felt even more on a 3 lb bass? Wouldn't that cause them to drop it quicker? Probably wouldn't matter if the chow bag was on, but when negative or neutral, can it make them drop it? Very random..I know.

[the reel ess]

I feel you. I have a medium spinning combo loaded with 20# braid that I've been using for Pop R's because I like to have several rods rigged with topwaters. A lot of the pros recommend braid for poppers. It has cost two fish and one of them was BIG. I thought I should set the drag a little looser because I didn't ant to yank the trebles out. The big one simply took drag into the lilies before I could slow it. I just can't get the hang of fishing braid for topwaters except the frog. But you bludgeon the fish in with the frog combo.

 

I always thought of fluoro or braid as getting an advantage on feeling the strike. The issue with mono is it stretches. But I don't think the fish is stretching it with the strike unless they take the rod out of your hand. IMO, keep trying it if seems right for the technique. You'll get better.

[BassNJake]

40 minutes ago, Todd2 said:

My line was getting low of my old clear blue mono, so I dug into my little cooler and realized I had some fluorocarbon left on a spool so I put it on. I hadn't used it since switching over to Tungsten and wanted to feel it. Very sensitive combination. I could feel everything. But I had a very bad night..the bite was off. Had a lot of short strikes. Its weird, you get used to the way a line feels and something different throws you off.

 

But here's the question, I'm around 200lbs and when I feel that hit with fluoro, it without a doubt seems magnified over what it does with mono. But...isn't that same extra pressure (for lack of a better word) being felt even more on a 3 lb bass? Wouldn't that cause them to drop it quicker? Probably wouldn't matter if the chow bag was on, but when negative or neutral, can it make them drop it? Very random..I know.

Pre fishing tournaments using a jig with the hook cut off, I am amazed at how tight and how long they will hold on

I could probably net almost half these fish without having a hook on the end.

 

When a bass slurps up a bluegill, that fish is going to try to escape(bass feels mouth pressure) we'd have a lot of skinny bass if the only time they ate is when they slurped it all the way to the gullet( this is my very unscientific opinion)

 

I know some people wait a couple seconds after feeling the tap(there was a recent thread about this)

Since you are getting a quicker response on one end, you might have to be a little slower on the other end.?

 

[the reel ess]

3 minutes ago, BassNJake said:

Pre fishing tournaments using a jig with the hook cut off, I am amazed at how tight and how long they will hold on

I could probably net almost half these fish without having a hook on the end.

That's usually how I detect my jig strikes. It weighs nothing and starts moving on its own. Sometimes when it doesn't get to the bottom, you start to retrieve and the fish will fight you for the jig.

[Todd2]

10 minutes ago, BassNJake said:

 

Since you are getting a quicker response on one end, you might have to be a little slower on the other end.?

 

Yeah, I don't usually play around when setting the hook.  If I'd had my normal line on I suspect my night wouldn't have been much better. It was just an off night, but feeling everything did throw me off. I suspect a lot of those bites were small bass or panfish.  But several times it was that deeper single thump and they were gone. My biggest was a big catfish out on a point..thought I was into a good one..lol

[BassNJake]

2 minutes ago, Todd2 said:

Yeah, I don't usually play around when setting the hook.  If I'd had my normal line on I suspect my night wouldn't have been much better. It was just an off night, but feeling everything did throw me off. I suspect a lot of those bites were small bass or panfish.  But several times it was that deeper single thump and they were gone. 

Yep, thats fishing. some days they'll crush it, other days it seems like they are having a taste test.

Do you ever try scent on the days they are not really getting it?

I never really bought into it, but on those type of days I'm willing to try anything

 

I swear my old tourney partner used to bathe in megastrike.

He believed in that stuff and would always use it

[papajoe222]

 If you stop to think about it, a fish can't determine what's in his mouth. A tungsten weight is just that, weight. Not unlike the weight of natural prey. If there's something the fish feels is unnatural, it will reject it quicker than you can set the hook. If the bite was off, my money is on the fact that the fish were dropping your bait before you could react.

 No matter how good your reflexes are, or how sensitive your gear, a fish still has to have your bait in its mouth when you set the hook. The only time I wait to set the hook is on a topwater bite, in which case I wait until I feel weight at the end of the line.

[RoLo]

 

Quote

when I feel that hit with fluoro, it without a doubt seems magnified over what it does with mono.

But...isn't that same extra pressure (for lack of a better word) being felt even more on a 3 lb bass?

Wouldn't that cause them to drop it quicker? 

You pose an intuitive question, Todd.

There's no shortage of articles that tout the vibration-transmission of dense fluorocarbon.

On the other hand, there's little or no interest in addressing the 'fish-end' of the spectrum.

(That is to say: If I feel her, she must feel me).

 

Roger