txchaser Posted July 18, 2020 Posted July 18, 2020 I was having breakoffs on 10lb Sufix advance, but never on the 12lb. Even on stuff like a light t-rig where I'm definitely not trying to hammer a big hook in. Frustrating because I loved everything else about the line - mostly that it sinks, it isn't stretchy, and it behaves well on a baitcaster. They are both sized big like big game, so the 10lb is probably 12+ lb diameter. I recalled something about them setting the test rating at the break strength tied with a uni knot. I have been using the san diego jam for some time now on almost everything, and getting great results, but I thought hey why not, might as well try it. I used the improved (two turns through the eye) version. Identical 3/0 hyabusa hooks used on both ends. Hooks rotated across knots to ensure there wasn't a problem in a hook eye. Pressure applied quickly like a hookset. Test 1 - SDJ vs Improved Uni - winner was improved uni, broke at the SDJ knot Test 2 - SDJ vs Improved Uni - winner was improved uni, broke at the SDJ knot Test 3 - SDJ vs Improved Uni - winner was improved uni, broke at the SDJ knot Wow! Ok, lets try a double SDJ and see if that helps. Test 4 - Double SDJ vs Improved Uni - winner was uni, broke at the Double SDJ knot Test 5 - Double SDJ vs Improved Uni - winner was uni, broke at the Double SDJ knot Test 6 - Double SDJ vs Improved Uni - winner was uni, broke at the Double SDJ knot Perceived effort to break was higher with the Double SDJ. I'm not going to try to explain why it worked, but if you are using Sufix Advance, you might try a couple of other knots vs whatever your standard is. EDIT: I decided to go dig around and see what HMPE really is. Sufix makes a big deal about it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra-high-molecular-weight_polyethylene Same stuff as dyneema/spectra apparently. Quote
Super User dodgeguy Posted July 18, 2020 Super User Posted July 18, 2020 I use 8 lb with a single Palomar and it never breaks off. Sufix stated that it was dynemma particles. I absolutely love this line. Quote
Super User PhishLI Posted July 18, 2020 Super User Posted July 18, 2020 I've caught a ton on the 10 lb using the Improved Clinch (6 wraps). I've had just one break off that was totally my fault trying to jack a fish over a branch which was really dumb. IC vs IU challenge? Quote
OnthePotomac Posted July 18, 2020 Posted July 18, 2020 I have only used the 14lb with a uni on the hook and so far never a problem. Quote
Super User QUAKEnSHAKE Posted July 19, 2020 Super User Posted July 19, 2020 On 7/18/2020 at 10:44 AM, waymont said: What's the improved uni knot? Expand Fish-n-Fool knot 1 Quote
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