Missile Baits Ned Bomb

[TnRiver46]

8 hours ago, Wacked worm said:

Considering i just lost 15 bags plus worth of z-man baits, im pretty irritated right now. All in their original package, in a tackle bag, in the boat, in storage, under a cover.... All melted. I'm not quite sure what i can do different but I'm pretty PO'd right now and not sure i want to replace them. 

You don’t need them anymore, now it’s what the whole world fishes with the most so the fish have adapted 

[Team9nine]

5 hours ago, Wacked worm said:

Considering i just lost 15 bags plus worth of z-man baits, im pretty irritated right now. All in their original package, in a tackle bag, in the boat, in storage, under a cover.... All melted. I'm not quite sure what i can do different but I'm pretty PO'd right now and not sure i want to replace them. 

Pics? Kind of curious what “melting” looks like as I’ve used Zman baits for 9 years and only once had a pkg truly melt, and it was because I moved them into another non Zman pkg I thought was clean.

[Mobasser]

I don't fish the Z Man plastics a lot, but have several bags I've had for 3yrs, that have never melted or deformed. I just left them in the original bags.

[RoLo]

 

I've never had any melting issues with Elaztech plastics, and have been using them

since they were introduced by Strike King, under the Cyberflexxx label (3x).

 

My only issue with Elaztech is when fishing a T-rigged bait. Even though I bury the point deeply,

it doesn't take much pressure for the point to break thru the soft, jelly-like plastic and hang up.

For this reason, I mainly fish Elasztech plastics in open water,

where their durability & buoyancy is hard to beat.

 

Roger

[fishwizzard]

19 hours ago, RoLo said:

 

I've never had any melting issues with Elaztech plastics, and have been using them

since they were introduced by Strike King, under the Cyberflexxx label (3x).

 

My only issue with Elaztech is when fishing a T-rigged bait. Even though I bury the point deeply,

it doesn't take much pressure for the point to break thru the soft, jelly-like plastic and hang up.

For this reason, I mainly fish Elasztech plastics in open water,

where their durability & buoyancy is hard to beat.

 

Roger

I have the opposite problem that you do, I don’t use Z-Man plastics for anything but open hook applications as I find that the stretchy plastic makes hooksets very difficult as the plastic stretches too much rather than letting the hook rip through it. 

[BassNJake]

I have a bunch of finesse baits that work on a small stand up jig head.

I refuse to use a TURD TRD as a bait

[RoLo]

4 hours ago, fishwizzard said:

I have the opposite problem that you do, I don’t use Z-Man plastics for anything but open hook applications as I find that the stretchy plastic makes hooksets very difficult as the plastic stretches too much rather than letting the hook rip through it. 

 

If you reread my post, you'll see that I only use ElaZtach in 'open water' with an 'exposed hook'.

If you put an exposed hook in a weedy lake, you'd be lucky to move the lure 10 feet.

To penetrate vegetation, the best option is a T-rigged bait made of tough plastic (not Elaztech).

ElaZtech is a soft, jelly-like plastic that I only use in open water with an exposed hook.

 

Roger

[@reelChris]

On 7/16/2020 at 9:53 PM, plawren53202 said:

Anyone use the Missile Baits Ned Bomb as a dropshot bait? I was in the store this evening looking for some new dropshot baits and the Ned Bomb seemed like it might work well even though it's not marketed as a dropshot bait.

No, but the Bomb Shot works pretty well and it has the same basic shape as the Ned Bomb.  Like all drop shot baits, it's prone to tearing if nose hooked, so I like to thread it on so that the hook point comes out at about 1/2" into the body of the bait.   

[Wacked worm]

TRD, big TRD, Frogs, craws, minnows, etc.... just a quick grab from the boat. 

[Steelhead]

I bought three packages last season and have caught some fish on them but Zman baits are so much more productive. I've tried many other brands Ned baits and nothing else comes close to Zman. Never had a problem with them melting.  I keep them in the original bag and out of direct sunlight. 

[Wacked worm]

Mine were in original bag, out of sunlight, in my tacklebag, in compartment in my boat under a cover. Didn't matter. 

I like them, I'm successful with them, but this is unacceptable. 

[TnRiver46]

On 7/28/2020 at 8:39 PM, Wacked worm said:

TRD, big TRD, Frogs, craws, minnows, etc.... just a quick grab from the boat. 

That’s quite the art project! 

[Bassin Bruce]

Question to y'all Zman guys(or elaztack) guys. 

I've never fished it as they weren't around yet when I went chasing a different species of fish 20 years ago and so I'm just now bring myself up to date.

My question is on storage and that is can I store the ZMan products in their own plano box but have the plano box stacked right with other soft plastic baits in their own separate plano boxes.

I guess the question is does the melting affect leach out of the plano box that is containing the Zman baits and affect other boxes.

[Finessegenics]

27 minutes ago, Bassin Bruce said:

Question to y'all Zman guys(or elaztack) guys. 

I've never fished it as they weren't around yet when I went chasing a different species of fish 20 years ago and so I'm just now bring myself up to date.

My question is on storage and that is can I store the ZMan products in their own plano box but have the plano box stacked right with other soft plastic baits in their own separate plano boxes.

I guess the question is does the melting affect leach out of the plano box that is containing the Zman baits and affect other boxes.

I think you would be safe, unless the plano box itself begins to warp while stacked on top of or under another box. The plano boxes should not warp though, but I have heard of it happening with elaztech. I keep mine in their original packaging but I realize that is not a possibility for everyone.

 

Here's a very informational post from a member getting a response directly from Z-Man concerning his question which is similar to yours. 

 

 

 

 

[PotatoLake]

On 7/17/2020 at 8:09 AM, snake95 said:

I am pretty much sticking with Zman these days.

 

Love their stuff.

 

The other ned bait that has worked really well for me is X-zone's Ned Zone, but I would not pick it over a good ol' TRD.

You beat me to it. Ned Zone is an awesome bait and I use it over TRD from spawn to fall. Has a bit more wiggle. When I need to dead stick it in colder water then I go back to the TRD. 309 in X-Zone and Canada Craw TRD are my go to colors here in MO.

[00bullitt]

The Ned Bomb is my go to Ned Rig bait, but I fish it different than most. I used to fish the TRD and Ticklerz. They catch fish on the bottom, but as soon as the fish get their bellies out of the mud, the are active from 1-5' off the bottom. I see this on Livescope.

Shaking a TRD in front of their face off the bottom did not interest them. The tail of the Ned Bomb creates a tail swimming action that gets bit when I suspend it just above them and twitch it ever so slightly. I do use a dab of super glue gel to keep it in place on a Swagger Tungsten head. Unconventional Ned technique, but Livescope shows me how to adapt to their behavior. I LOVE LOVE LOVE watching them crush it at 40'! Ive been fishing for 40 years....never would I know to do the above if it were not for Livescope. 

One of my new favorite baits to use on a 1/5 Ned head is a Zoom 4" Dead Ringer and I cut the curl off the tail and die it orange. I have caught fish from 5' to 50' directly under the boat. They crush that thing!!! And those little #1 hooks are magical!

[Bassin Bruce]

1 hour ago, Finessegenics said:

I think you would be safe, unless the plano box itself begins to warp while stacked on top of or under another box. The plano boxes should not warp though, but I have heard of it happening with elaztech. I keep mine in their original packaging but I realize that is not a possibility for everyone.

 

Here's a very informational post from a member getting a response directly from Z-Man concerning his question which is similar to yours. 

 

 

 

 

Thanks a bunch for your thoughts and a link to that concise answer from ZMan themselves, very helpful.

 

[mcipinkie]

Regardless of what the manufacturers' and their sponsored pro's tell us, there ain't no magic lure.

 

Staying with this post, sometimes the Missile Baits catch 'em.  Sometimes the Zman baits catch 'em.  Some time both, or neither do  That's why we carry so many.

 

That said, I personally like the Ned Bomb for Ned rigging, but will try almost anything I can get on a little jig.  Really like the Missile Bait better than the Zman, but I'll throw what they will bite.

 

Don't like the Ned Bomb for drop shot.  Thow the Bomb Shot almost exclusively.

 

 

Regardless of what the manufacturers' and their sponsored pro's tell us, there ain't no magic lure.

 

Staying with this post, sometimes the Missile Baits catch 'em.  Sometimes the Zman baits catch 'em.  Some time both, or neither do  That's why we carry so many.

 

That said, I personally like the Ned Bomb for Ned rigging, but will try almost anything I can get on a little jig.  Really like the Missile Bait better than the Zman, but I'll throw what they will bite.

 

Don't like the Ned Bomb for drop shot.  Thow the Bomb Shot almost exclusively.

 

 

[Revival]

Love the Ned Bombs.  I like to swim it.  First time fishing off a kayak, I caught close to 10 off the same Ned Bomb.

[GetFishorDieTryin]

On 7/14/2020 at 11:59 PM, cgolf said:

he Big TRD has a similar action to the Zinkerz. Maybe my finesse TRDs are different, they were from around when they first came out, but they are super stiff and tear. Where as the zinkerz and big TRD seem to have a lot of movement and don't tear and last forever as long as I don't lose them on a snag.

 

I think the TRDs have a different salt content then the zinkers but the TRD and big TRD are the same.  The idea of the TRD is to be subtle. 

If you want action from a zman bait the turbo craws, boar hogs, trd hogs, finesse shads and finesse worms have more action. 

I've never had issues with any of the zman plastics tearing with standard jig heads.  The hogz seem to wear out the fastest out of all of them but I still get over a dozen fish before they have to be replaced.