Hower08 Posted July 10, 2020 Posted July 10, 2020 Any way to reduce the amount a spinning reel flexes. I've always fished Shimano but picked up a 3000 size daiwa Fuego spinning reel. Last night fighting a couple 2 pound bass the reel literally felt like it was going to snap in half it was flexing so bad. I've had the reel for about 2 years and always noticed a little bit but never felt anything like this on any reel I've ever used. It's on an IMX pro if that makes any difference to anyone Quote
Super User NYWayfarer Posted July 10, 2020 Super User Posted July 10, 2020 Flexing on an aluminum framed spinning reel? The Fuego has the Hardbodyz aluminum frame Daiwa makes. I have an old Daiwa Capricorn made with the same aluminum. Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted July 10, 2020 Super User Posted July 10, 2020 Loosen your drag. A-Jay 4 Quote
Hower08 Posted July 10, 2020 Author Posted July 10, 2020 Yes. At first I thought maybe the reel was loose that wasn't the case. It felt like I could have twisted the reel in a circle Quote
Super User DitchPanda Posted July 10, 2020 Super User Posted July 10, 2020 That seems odd to me. I was fishing a mojo rig on a spinning rod a few days ago..the reel was a pflueger president size 30. I caught a largemouth around 4 or 4.5 lbs and didn't have any reel flex. That particular reel is 10 or 12 years old and has caught thousands of fish. I remember catching a 30+ lb carp on that reel more than once without issue. Quote
Hower08 Posted July 10, 2020 Author Posted July 10, 2020 Drag is set plenty loose. And I have caught some.massive fish on this reel. I'm talking 50#+ grass carp and such and I've never felt anything like it. Maybe I'll try to get a video of it flexing. The only other spinning reels I use are pflueger and Shimano and have never experienced this. Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted July 10, 2020 Super User Posted July 10, 2020 12 minutes ago, Hower08 said: Drag is set plenty loose. And I have caught some.massive fish on this reel. I'm talking 50#+ grass carp and such and I've never felt anything like it. Maybe I'll try to get a video of it flexing. The only other spinning reels I use are pflueger and Shimano and have never experienced this. Maybe this will be the 'next big thing'. Spinning reel stem 'action'. Light, medium & heavy. Maybe even get into Mod Medium or Mod Fast reel stems. And what if they were interchangeable ? Yea that's the ticket. Sorry, I really need to go fishing . . . . A-Jay 1 1 Quote
Hower08 Posted July 10, 2020 Author Posted July 10, 2020 11 minutes ago, A-Jay said: Maybe this will be the 'next big thing'. Spinning reel stem 'action'. Light, medium & heavy. Maybe even get into Mod Medium or Mod Fast reel stems. And what if they were interchangeable ? Yea that's the ticket. Sorry, I really need to go fishing . . . . A-Jay Haha you could be on to something! I spent the rest of the evening trying to wrap my head around what was happening and still can't figure it out 1 Quote
Super User Tywithay Posted July 10, 2020 Super User Posted July 10, 2020 I've caught 10lb+ catfish on my Fuego and it has never flexed or struggled at all. Quote
Hower08 Posted July 10, 2020 Author Posted July 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Tywithay said: I've caught 10lb+ catfish on my Fuego and it has never flexed or struggled at all. This is the first time in the two years I have ever noticed it. I took a video no clue how to post. If someone here knows how to post it I can text the video to them so everyone here can see I'm not completely insane Quote
Fishin Dad Posted July 11, 2020 Posted July 11, 2020 8 hours ago, NYWayfarer said: Flexing on an aluminum framed spinning reel? The Fuego has the Hardbodyz aluminum frame Daiwa makes. I have an old Daiwa Capricorn made with the same aluminum. I assumed he was talking about the Fuego LT which is carbon framed I believe. I have always heard about spinning reels flexing when made of a resin, carbon, special aerospace, genetic, mutated material, but I have not experienced it. I have the Fuego LT and use it quite a bit. Caught bass over 5 pounds and couldn’t feel the flex, but it could have and I didn’t know it. If you felt it flexing that much recently, and you have used it for two years previously, there must be a problem with it. Daiwa would not be in business if they made reels that did this on purpose. 2 Quote
mrpao Posted July 11, 2020 Posted July 11, 2020 The Fuego LT and the models below the fuego are made of a cheaper carbon graphite mixture. The stem flex has been a major issue with those reels. Especially once you get to the bigger sizes. It becomes very noticeable. I had a regal 2500 LT and could easy twist the reel foot to some degree. The exception is the revros LT. It has a thicker frame hence the heavier weight. Its stem does not hardly bend when trying to twist it. These reels are light in weight because daiwa has cut out much of the material used in the frame. Less material equals lighter weight. Compare the daiwa LT line to the shimano reels of the same price point. The shimano frames are much thicker and weigh more. Keep in mind its only the cheaper carbon graphite LT reels that have the stem flex issues. The ziaon body reels have been great. No real issues with flexing on those reels like the Procyon LT and above. 1 Quote
Super User NYWayfarer Posted July 11, 2020 Super User Posted July 11, 2020 55 minutes ago, Fishin Dad said: I assumed he was talking about the Fuego LT which is carbon framed I believe. I have always heard about spinning reels flexing when made of a resin, carbon, special aerospace, genetic, mutated material, but I have not experienced it. I have the Fuego LT and use it quite a bit. Caught bass over 5 pounds and couldn’t feel the flex, but it could have and I didn’t know it. If you felt it flexing that much recently, and you have used it for two years previously, there must be a problem with it. Daiwa would not be in business if they made reels that did this on purpose. Makes sense now. My answer to reel flex would be to say get an aluminum framed reel which is what I thought he had. Big Smallies will put a hurting on even the best gear. They fight like demons. 1 Quote
Fishin Dad Posted July 11, 2020 Posted July 11, 2020 41 minutes ago, NYWayfarer said: Makes sense now. My answer to reel flex would be to say get an aluminum framed reel which is what I thought he had. Big Smallies will put a hurting on even the best gear. They fight like demons. “Demons” is right. Maybe that explains the red eyes 1 1 Quote
Hower08 Posted July 11, 2020 Author Posted July 11, 2020 The above is correct it is the LT.like I stated before I've used this thing from the smallest of fish to fish over 50 pounds and never an issue till now. It will soon be thrown in the pile of "backup " reels as I cannot feel confident using it anymore Quote
K1500 Posted July 11, 2020 Posted July 11, 2020 I have a couple of the Fuego LT’s and they flex a lot. Enough I won’t be buying another. Next time spent the $10 more and buy the Daiwa BG. It is aluminum and rock solid. 1 Quote
mrpao Posted July 11, 2020 Posted July 11, 2020 Look up i_fish on YouTube. Victor does a great job explaining the daiwa LT line of reels. His videos are very informative. Quote
Fishin Dad Posted July 11, 2020 Posted July 11, 2020 I wonder if the material breaks down after extended use or exposure to the elements? I use mine quite a bit and I have not noticed it being crazy flexible..............yet. I am also in the market for another spinning reel or 2. I won’t be using these a lot. They will be mostly dedicated to smallmouth fishing on Mille Lacs and other smallmouth lakes. I only fish there 5 or 6 times per season. Even though I will only use these reels sparingly, I am going to upgrade to At least the Procyon, and maybe Tatula or Ballistic if I stay with Daiwa. I like a more rigid reel and better drag when fighting smallies. I may venture into another brand as well to compare. Probably Shimano or Lews. Open to suggestions though. Quote
Hower08 Posted July 11, 2020 Author Posted July 11, 2020 14 minutes ago, Fishin Dad said: I wonder if the material breaks down after extended use or exposure to the elements? I use mine quite a bit and I have not noticed it being crazy flexible..............yet. I am also in the market for another spinning reel or 2. I won’t be using these a lot. They will be mostly dedicated to smallmouth fishing on Mille Lacs and other smallmouth lakes. I only fish there 5 or 6 times per season. Even though I will only use these reels sparingly, I am going to upgrade to At least the Procyon, and maybe Tatula or Ballistic if I stay with Daiwa. I like a more rigid reel and better drag when fighting smallies. I may venture into another brand as well to compare. Probably Shimano or Lews. Open to suggestions though. Love all my pflueger spinning reels. And most of my Shimano ones. This was my first and last daiwa reel purchase. I also had a tatula rod that on every hookset sounded like it was going to explode . Definately not the brand for me Quote
Heartland Posted July 11, 2020 Posted July 11, 2020 13 minutes ago, Hower08 said: Love all my pflueger spinning reels. And most of my Shimano ones. This was my first and last daiwa reel purchase. I also had a tatula rod that on every hookset sounded like it was going to explode . Definately not the brand for me I use and really enjoy Pflueger spinning reels. I would never use the President for the same reason, way too much flex. Quote
Super User dodgeguy Posted July 11, 2020 Super User Posted July 11, 2020 And this my friends is why for years I've posted not to buy composite reels. Quote
Hower08 Posted July 11, 2020 Author Posted July 11, 2020 9 hours ago, dodgeguy said: And this my friends is why for years I've posted not to buy composite reels. I agree. I went off the recommendations of enough guys using the reel and all I did was reinforce the fact on why I don't listen to anyone but myself on purchases 1 Quote
garroyo130 Posted July 12, 2020 Posted July 12, 2020 Im curious as to what the flex feel's like or how you know its present. I've felt flex on a baitcaster before but I frequently fish an old bill dance as-cheap-as-it-gets spinning reel gifted to me by my grandmother and I have never felt flex to any degree. Quote
mrpao Posted July 12, 2020 Posted July 12, 2020 13 minutes ago, garroyo130 said: Im curious as to what the flex feel's like or how you know its present. I've felt flex on a baitcaster before but I frequently fish an old bill dance as-cheap-as-it-gets spinning reel gifted to me by my grandmother and I have never felt flex to any degree. Not all reels flex that much. Most graphite reels will flex. Some flex more than others depending on the material and thickness of the reel stem. Daiwa LT reels have fairly thin stems and are known to flex quite a bit. As far as I know, that is really the only weakness these reels have. Quote
garroyo130 Posted July 12, 2020 Posted July 12, 2020 9 minutes ago, mrpao said: Daiwa LT reels have fairly thin stems and are known to flex quite a bit. As far as I know, that is really the only weakness these reels have. I can see that but if you look at the angle of the pull on a spinning reel, unless the first guide on the rod is very small or close to the blank, the pull shouldn't really result in flex. The pull would be pulling from the spool upward (towards the drag knob), not inward (towards the blank). Maybe im just overthinking it ... Quote
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