TriStateBassin106 Posted July 9, 2020 Posted July 9, 2020 Recently in NJ we've had a significant amount of rain in the last two days which has risen the water level at one of my spots to pre spawn levels (it's one of those ponds where the water level retreats when we don't get enough rain) anyway today I went to fish and got skunked, where do the bass go when the water levels in ponds like this rise quickly?? Water is very muddy now and couldn't get a bite on any dark colored lures. Quote
Herbert Lorenzo Posted July 9, 2020 Posted July 9, 2020 When water levels rise fish are dispersed to waters edge . Fish will found near grass on edge of lake . Hope this helps . 2 Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted July 9, 2020 Global Moderator Posted July 9, 2020 They follow the rising water where I live. Then when it recedes they follow it again 1 Quote
Finessegenics Posted July 9, 2020 Posted July 9, 2020 The fish should be following the rising water and be super tight to cover and that includes the bank itself. I tend to do well in high water situations but maybe the rapid rising of the water is what shut your fish off...Anyways, in muddy water I like to think of the 3 S’s. Size, Sound, Speed. I heard about this in a YouTube video which I’ve linked below. It helped me out with my muddy water fishing. Size: Go with a larger profile bait as it should be easier for the fish to “feel”. Larger bait will cause more vibration and have a bigger presence in the water. Sound: Add a rattle or try brass and glass if you’re throwing a Texas rig Speed: I actually like to slow down in muddy water as it gives the fish more time to hone in on your bait. Think of a slow rolled spinnerbait. 2 Quote
Super User Spankey Posted July 9, 2020 Super User Posted July 9, 2020 9 hours ago, TriStateBassin106 said: Recently in NJ we've had a significant amount of rain in the last two days which has risen the water level at one of my spots to pre spawn levels (it's one of those ponds where the water level retreats when we don't get enough rain) anyway today I went to fish and got skunked, where do the bass go when the water levels in ponds like this rise quickly?? Water is very muddy now and couldn't get a bite on any dark colored lures. I’m only across the river from you. I think that’s what my weekend is looking like for me. The grass edges, dead falls and Lilly pads. I’ll try to make something hit. If all fails I’ll throw a Rat-L-Trap or a RES for awhile. Something about one of them that may keep you from getting skunked. Quote
galyonj Posted July 9, 2020 Posted July 9, 2020 10 hours ago, Herbert Lorenzo said: When water levels rise fish are dispersed to waters edge . Fish will found near grass on edge of lake . Hope this helps . 10 hours ago, TnRiver46 said: They follow the rising water where I live. Then when it recedes they follow it again Cosigned. Especially if the rise is accompanied by a drop in clarity (I've never seen one without the other here, but @TnRiver46 probably has because he's secretly an otter ), I bet you'll find them up and/or holding real tight to something solid. Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted July 9, 2020 Global Moderator Posted July 9, 2020 23 minutes ago, galyonj said: Cosigned. Especially if the rise is accompanied by a drop in clarity (I've never seen one without the other here, but @TnRiver46 probably has because he's secretly an otter ), I bet you'll find them up and/or holding real tight to something solid. Only time I can remember high clear water is in the deep mountain lakes like Norris and Fontana 1 Quote
TriStateBassin106 Posted July 9, 2020 Author Posted July 9, 2020 11 hours ago, Finessegenics said: The fish should be following the rising water and be super tight to cover and that includes the bank itself. I tend to do well in high water situations but maybe the rapid rising of the water is what shut your fish off...Anyways, in muddy water I like to think of the 3 S’s. Size, Sound, Speed. I heard about this in a YouTube video which I’ve linked below. It helped me out with my muddy water fishing. Size: Go with a larger profile bait as it should be easier for the fish to “feel”. Larger bait will cause more vibration and have a bigger presence in the water. Sound: Add a rattle or try brass and glass if you’re throwing a Texas rig Speed: I actually like to slow down in muddy water as it gives the fish more time to hone in on your bait. Think of a slow rolled spinnerbait. My pond looks like this now since the high rain. Those low hanging trees you were able to walk near a couple of days ago, also you can see the algae that's in there since they treated the pond last month with herbicides, usually doesn't effect the fish much but the water quality definitely goes down. Also there's a big fountain in the middle that gives it oxygen Quote
galyonj Posted July 9, 2020 Posted July 9, 2020 53 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said: Only time I can remember high clear water is in the deep mountain lakes like Norris and Fontana Never really thought about fishing Fontana given that all the times I've been around it, I was more interested in carving up the dragon…but that's a really pretty lake and I feel like I should bring some gear next time I go up there. Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted July 9, 2020 Global Moderator Posted July 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, galyonj said: Never really thought about fishing Fontana given that all the times I've been around it, I was more interested in carving up the dragon…but that's a really pretty lake and I feel like I should bring some gear next time I go up there. I’ll be fishing it July 19,I’ve got to pick up some friends that are hiking the smokies, apparently the old man that used to run the ferry passed away 1 Quote
ABart61 Posted July 9, 2020 Posted July 9, 2020 If the water has risen recently or is still rising I would focus on shoreline cover. When shoreline cover is flooded it provides more food for baitfish. Obviously, bass follow and will setup on that new shoreline cover or structure. Be prepared though, when water starts receding those fish will leave that spot very quickly. For lures you should think less about color and more about water displacement. Yes using dark colors is great and the right thing to do. But water displacement is more important in muddy water. Spinnerbaits, Jigs with a bulky trailer, T-rigs with plastics that have a lot of appendages (Brush Hog style creature baits) . Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted July 9, 2020 Global Moderator Posted July 9, 2020 35 minutes ago, ABart61 said: If the water has risen recently or is still rising I would focus on shoreline cover. When shoreline cover is flooded it provides more food for baitfish. Obviously, bass follow and will setup on that new shoreline cover or structure. Be prepared though, when water starts receding those fish will leave that spot very quickly. For lures you should think less about color and more about water displacement. Yes using dark colors is great and the right thing to do. But water displacement is more important in muddy water. Spinnerbaits, Jigs with a bulky trailer, T-rigs with plastics that have a lot of appendages (Brush Hog style creature baits) . A bart........ are you sobi’s buddy?? Quote
Super User Bankbeater Posted July 10, 2020 Super User Posted July 10, 2020 Around here the bass move up shallow into the flooded cover. Usually the thicker the flooded grass and bushes the better. Quote
Super User RoLo Posted July 10, 2020 Super User Posted July 10, 2020 Rising water increases the area of the lake, which increases the fish's choice of locations. Oppositely, falling water crowds the fish population, which reduces their options. Remember though, changing water levels do 'not' alter the fish's distance from the water surface. That is to say, rising or falling may change the fish's scenery, but the depth of fish remains the same. In general, fish depth and bottom depth correspond, but there are always some fish in suspension. Roger Quote
ABart61 Posted July 10, 2020 Posted July 10, 2020 17 hours ago, TnRiver46 said: A bart........ are you sobi’s buddy?? I don't know who sobi is. Is he another user on this site? Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted July 10, 2020 Global Moderator Posted July 10, 2020 44 minutes ago, ABart61 said: I don't know who sobi is. Is he another user on this site? My bad! Sobi is a YouTube fisherman in Minnesota that has a tournament partner Named Adam Bart....... something Quote
ABart61 Posted July 10, 2020 Posted July 10, 2020 56 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said: My bad! Sobi is a YouTube fisherman in Minnesota that has a tournament partner Named Adam Bart....... something Aaaaaah...Nope that's not me. ? I'm from Central Iowa. I do frequently fish Minnesota in the summertime. I fish a lake up in Itasca County right beside Lake Winnie. When I do fish up there. I mainly fish for walleye. 1 Quote
Super User WRB Posted July 10, 2020 Super User Posted July 10, 2020 If the water temper changed several degrees quickly the bass may not be active and adjusting to the changes. Normally bass move up in rising water into newly flooded areas and move back out with dropping water levels. Tom PS, it looks like more rain is in your future. Quote
TriStateBassin106 Posted July 10, 2020 Author Posted July 10, 2020 38 minutes ago, WRB said: If the water temper changed several degrees quickly the bass may not be active and adjusting to the changes. Normally bass move up in rising water into newly flooded areas and move back out with dropping water levels. Tom PS, it looks like more rain is in your future. Yeah, it also got very humid and hot up here, went to the same pond yesterday and managed to get one on a senko, still though a very tough bite. Quote
Super User geo g Posted October 21, 2020 Super User Posted October 21, 2020 We are 30" above normal rainfall in South Florida this season. With this much rain, they are buried in shore cover, or positioning close to areas with flowing water. Look for eddies close to the flowing water, for fish positioning in a feeding mood. This has helped me on tough days when fish were not out chasing baits. Look for funnel points between grass islands, culvert pipes, big rocks in flowing water, and creeks flowing into big bodies of water. Look for slack areas close to the flow. From the bank, culvert pipes are big attractions. Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted October 22, 2020 Global Moderator Posted October 22, 2020 3 hours ago, geo g said: We are 30" above normal rainfall in South Florida this season. With this much rain, they are buried in shore cover, or positioning close to areas with flowing water. Look for eddies close to the flowing water, for fish positioning in a feeding mood. This has helped me on tough days when fish were not out chasing baits. Look for funnel points between grass islands, culvert pipes, big rocks in flowing water, and creeks flowing into big bodies of water. Look for slack areas close to the flow. From the bank, culvert pipes are big attractions. That’s a lot! I’m surprised the whole state isn’t underwater Quote
Super User geo g Posted October 24, 2020 Super User Posted October 24, 2020 On 10/21/2020 at 9:35 PM, TnRiver46 said: That’s a lot! I’m surprised the whole state isn’t underwater Without the canal system all throughout the area, and the big massive pumps we would be underwater. Quote
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