bryand82487 Posted July 2, 2020 Posted July 2, 2020 I've got two spinning reels that I've ran yozuri hybrid ultra soft on exclusively for the past 10 years. I finally ran out of it and since they don't make it anymore and I figured I would try flouro. I use Seaguar Invizx on all my baitcasters so I went with 8 lbs invizx on my spinning reels. I took the line off both reels within a month of use due to spending so much time dealing with line twist tangles and issues. I do use line conditioner but I hadn't used it on those yet. Do you really need it on line that's brand new? I'm thinking about trying the regular Yozuri Hybrid unless someone convinces me i should try flouro again. Any suggestions? Quote
Super User BrianMDTX Posted July 2, 2020 Super User Posted July 2, 2020 I’m running 8# YZH on spinning reels and 12# on baitcasters. Good stuff. I do use KVD line conditioner because I’d rather be safe than sorry lol. But I don’t drown it. Just 2-3 spritzes at the most. Can’t compare it to the ultra soft as I never used it. I have no complaints. But, after spooling, I did attach a ball bearing swivel to a hook on my fence, tied the line off the opposite end and walked back until I had 50-60 yards off the spool. I held it under tension for 2-3 minutes and reeled it back on the spool while under tension. That eliminates almost 100% of any twist. 1 Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted July 2, 2020 Global Moderator Posted July 2, 2020 Floro on a spinning reel? Brave...... 6 Quote
Super User Tywithay Posted July 2, 2020 Super User Posted July 2, 2020 Invizx is limp for a fluorocarbon, but still stiffer than most copoly and nylon lines. KVD would help it lay down some. Also super important to make sure it's spooled on in the right direction. I've been using 8lb for years and don't remember ever having any issues. If it does get a little twisted from a particular lure, I'll tie on a 3/8oz sinker and cast it into orbit, then reel it back in. Usually gets the twist out. 1 Quote
bryand82487 Posted July 2, 2020 Author Posted July 2, 2020 31 minutes ago, BrianMDTX said: I’m running 8# YZH on spinning reels and 12# on baitcasters. Good stuff. I do use KVD line conditioner because I’d rather be safe than sorry lol. But I don’t drown it. Just 2-3 spritzes at the most. Can’t compare it to the ultra soft as I never used it. I have no complaints. But, after spooling, I did attach a ball bearing swivel to a hook on my fence, tied the line off the opposite end and walked back until I had 50-60 yards off the spool. I held it under tension for 2-3 minutes and reeled it back on the spool while under tension. That eliminates almost 100% of any twist. I think I might give that a shot. 18 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said: Floro on a spinning reel? Brave...... lol it turned out to be more like dumb.... 17 minutes ago, Tywithay said: Invizx is limp for a fluorocarbon, but still stiffer than most copoly and nylon lines. KVD would help it lay down some. Also super important to make sure it's spooled on in the right direction. I've been using 8lb for years and don't remember ever having any issues. If it does get a little twisted from a particular lure, I'll tie on a 3/8oz sinker and cast it into orbit, then reel it back in. Usually gets the twist out. Thanks for the tip! Quote
Jason.Domingo Posted July 2, 2020 Posted July 2, 2020 I have 8lb invizx and sniper To 15lb braid on my spinning setups. I have no issues. I use to run all fluoro but that got expensive real fast lol 1 Quote
EzyEric Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 Make sure it's the right direction. There are some videos out there showing that. Also do not overspool. What size reel is it? Also one of the main reasons I went all braid to flouro leader on spinning. Quote
Super User WRB Posted July 3, 2020 Super User Posted July 3, 2020 Most anglers today use braid with a leader to reduce line twist. If you have a boat it's easy to manage line twist with spinning reels. Spinning reels put 1 twist in the line with every bail rotation. The larger diameter the line is the more memory it has. Yo-Zuri is a large diameter line per lbs test then nearly every other line. I wouldn't go over .010 diameter with 2500-3000 size spinning reels. Line conditioner helps to lubricate FC line, wets it so it doesn't spring off the spool. With a boat at the end of each day, cut off everything from the line and run about 100' of line behind the boat at walking speed for a few minutes. This will untwist your line. The other option is use a swivel that allows the line to untwist. Tom 2 Quote
bryand82487 Posted July 3, 2020 Author Posted July 3, 2020 1 hour ago, EzyEric said: Make sure it's the right direction. There are some videos out there showing that. Also do not overspool. What size reel is it? Also one of the main reasons I went all braid to flouro leader on spinning. It’s a 2500. I put some Yozuri Hybrid on it today. If that doesn’t work out I will give braid a try. 1 hour ago, WRB said: Most anglers today use braid with a leader to reduce line twist. If you have a boat it's easy to manage line twist with spinning reels. Spinning reels put 1 twist in the line with every bail rotation. The larger diameter the line is the more memory it has. Yo-Zuri is a large diameter line per lbs test then nearly every other line. I wouldn't go over .010 diameter with 2500-3000 size spinning reels. Line conditioner helps to lubricate FC line, wets it so it doesn't spring off the spool. With a boat at the end of each day, cut off everything from the line and run about 100' of line behind the boat at walking speed for a few minutes. This will untwist your line. The other option is use a swivel that allows the line to untwist. Tom Thanks I never realized it twisted that much. I’m going to give the Yozuri Hybrid a chance before going to braid. The older ultra soft never let me down so maybe the regular won’t either. Quote
Captain Phil Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 If you do these two things, you will never have line twist on a spinning reel. #1 Install the line on your reel the right direction. #2 Never flip the bail over by turning the reel handle. Train yourself to flip the bail by hand to make sure you don't have a loop before you cast. 1 Quote
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