Crankin reel

[CWB]

What does everyone recommend for a crankin reel. Been using. BB1 Pro for a few years but it's not the best for throwing into the wind. I swapped a Tatula SV TW from another rod and It casts into the wind with no issues but I don't seem to be getting the same distance. One thing is the BBQ had 10 lb. Invisx and the Tatula has 15 lb Sunline. Really thinking about another Tatula SV. My son just got a Shimano SLX 150 DC and he was throwing a few feet farther than me but he was using 20 lb braid. Any thoughts?

[WRB]

FC is a poor choice to use for crankbaits IMO. Braid is a poor choice for crankbaits IMO.

Mono is a good choice and 11 lb Sunline Armillo is a good choice IMO.

Tom

[CWB]

Wasn't asking about line. Was asking about reel. Thanks for your input though. Wouldn't use braid and Flouro seems to not get as many bite-offs from Pike. Not against giving mono a shot.

[JLewis134]

1 hour ago, WRB said:

FC is a poor choice to use for crankbaits IMO. Braid is a poor choice for crankbaits IMO.

Mono is a good choice and 11 lb Sunline Armillo is a good choice IMO.

Tom

FC works great. My preference is FC in 10 lb or 12 lb Sunline Super FC, Invizx, etc are all great lines. 

 

A great reel choice would be a Curado DC, Tatula 100 or 150

[CWB]

Again- More interested in reel than line.

[RoLo]

 

Among the many Daiwa and Shimano reels I own, my current favorite is the Shimano Bantam

for just about everything, including casting distance. My previous favorite was the Shimano Core

but as you know, it's been discontinued. 

 

Roger

[WRB]

1 hour ago, CWB said:

Wasn't asking about line. Was asking about reel. Thanks for your input though. Wouldn't use braid and Flouro seems to not get as many bite-offs from Pike. Not against giving mono a shot.

FC doesn't wet and tends to loosen on the spool more slowing the spool down. Using a line conditioner helps but doesn't eliminate the stress on the line casting long distances.

Braid is very light line and kits into the wind slowing down on longer casts and if you get a over run (backlash) very difficult to remove. 

Casting long distances over 50 yards is common practice using deep diving crankbaits, medium divers or square bills a 35-40 yard casts is a long cast.

Reels... Your choice,not a fan of DC reels so I would opt for the SV.

Tom

PS, my opinion is just that and based on 25+ years using Sunline FC.

Toothy fish issues you need to resolve with wire leader or lose lures.

[r3825]

If you're wanting casting distance get the Tatula Elite or the 150,  the SV is for control, not distance

[A-Jay]

A-Jay

 

[Bluebasser86]

A Tatula 100p is what I use. Great casting distance and a slower 5.4 22.9 IPT to make winching in big cranks easier. The SV reels don't have the line capacity for deep cranking IMO.

[jimmyjoe]

  Comparing results on 3 different reels with 3 different lines doesn't mean anything, regardless of whether you're throwing into the wind or not or throwing cranks or spinnerbaits or worms. If you want to compare reels, use the SAME LINE AND THE SAME ROD. Otherwise you're changing too many variables at once. Not only that, but your son casts differently than you cast .... another variable.

   It almost sounds like you want a reel that's set-it-and-forget-it. The reason I say that is that the BB1 Pro has a wide range of external adjustments that make casting into the wind easy .... IF you take advantage of the adjustments. The SLX DC and the Tatula's Magforce-Z systems are justly famous for dealing well with variable casting environments.

   You might be on the right track with the new Tatula, especially considering that you already own one and know its characteristics. But the loss of distance might be due to the lower line capacity as @Bluebasser86 said. You can maybe get around that by using braid, I don't know. Braid and I don't get along, so I can't say for sure.

   If you really want to see whether you'd like the SLX DC or Tatula better, you need to put the same line on both, and use them on the same rod with the same lure. Then you'll know.

   Good luck!     jj

  

[Hook2Jaw]

I rock a Daiwa Tatula 150 and I'm pretty pleased with it, as I am with all my Daiwa offerings.  It has good line capacity, balances well on my 7'9" cranking stick, and is fairly set it and forget it in no wind, or into a light wind.

 

I can touch 50 yards with it, 53 yards being my longest cast with it thus far.  I'm sure a better caster than I can make it a regular occurence.  I acetoned the spool bearing right after I got it, ran the bearing dry but the spool would simply get too fast for my ability.  I added one drop of oil and that slowed the spool enough to not backlash often.

 

Finally, I filled half of the spool with 30# braid and topshotted it with a cast and a half of 12# fluorocarbon.  It now gives me 40 to 45 yard casts on the regular, and 50 happens often enough.

 

The 5 speed is very easy on the muscles, and I highly recommend it in my primarily uneducated opinion.   This is my first deep cranking reel, but it performs well enough to make me happy and I'm glad I spent a little time ekeing out every bit of performance from it.

[Maico1]

Just got a new cranking set up and went with the 20 Calcutta Conquest 100 DC. Have no issues with line capacity using Sunline Defier 15lb. however if capacity is then you could go to the 200. Been a DC fan since Shimano came out with them and in my opinion they got more into line control/backlash and gave up distance. Very happy with the performance of the new Conquest DC and no longer have an issue with distance. 

[CWB]

Some solid advice from all. I'm mostly throwing squarebills and mid depth cranks along weedlines. The BB1 casts forever with the wind but when you hit a few and turn around and go back through them I don't want to mess around re dialing it in for wind or no wind. I really do like the tatulas and when set correctly they do cast pretty far. Maybe I'm overthinking this as a 50 yard cast would be great for 15-20 feet deep but I'm usually at 6- 12 feet max, mostly 8-10. 1/2 oz baits are no problem especially lipless but 3/8 squarebills, which I have been killing em on, are a bit trickier. Thanks for all the replies!

Edited July 1, 2020 by CWB

[johnD.]

Tatula 150 P.

[Matt_3479]

On my squarebill set up ive been throwing same line, same bait and same rod but have tried 4 different reels. So far my tatula sv (now sold) gave me the least distance, my current (chronarch mgl) balances beautifully and 2nd best distance, the bantam mgl (was brand new and find it had to break in first) was better then the tatula but not as good as the chronarch (might be different now as casting distance has just improved on it), and the first one I had on it was a 13 fishing concept c. Definitely had the best distance there. That thing could launch them. Not much further then the chronarch but it was further. I’d say within 3-4 feet difference. That said it was the pickiest reel, horrible in wind, if you even think about possibly changing tension or brakes it blows up. But when set up just right it bombs them (also sold now). 
 

my favourite is the chronarch Mgl for sure but Like I said now that the bantam all of a sudden seems to be gaining more distance and “breaking in” so to speak, it would be my preference I think. 
 

I know you aren’t interested but I believe flouro 12-16lbs range is your best bet for line for cranks. I’m trying braid for the first time this season to see how it changes things but as of now I’ll be changing back for next season. Just want to give it a fair shot first.

[CWB]

23 hours ago, Matt_3479 said:

On my squarebill set up ive been throwing same line, same bait and same rod but have tried 4 different reels. So far my tatula sv (now sold) gave me the least distance, my current (chronarch mgl) balances beautifully and 2nd best distance, the bantam mgl (was brand new and find it had to break in first) was better then the tatula but not as good as the chronarch (might be different now as casting distance has just improved on it), and the first one I had on it was a 13 fishing concept c. Definitely had the best distance there. That thing could launch them. Not much further then the chronarch but it was further. I’d say within 3-4 feet difference. That said it was the pickiest reel, horrible in wind, if you even think about possibly changing tension or brakes it blows up. But when set up just right it bombs them (also sold now). 
 

my favourite is the chronarch Mgl for sure but Like I said now that the bantam all of a sudden seems to be gaining more distance and “breaking in” so to speak, it would be my preference I think. 
 

I know you aren’t interested but I believe flouro 12-16lbs range is your best bet for line for cranks. I’m trying braid for the first time this season to see how it changes things but as of now I’ll be changing back for next season. Just want to give it a fair shot first.

Pretty much settled on 12 lb. Sunline Assassin. Tough stuff and pretty thin. Plus 600 yes goes on sale for good price every now and then. Now which reel. Anyone use the Curado DC?