spinning casting distance

[cookieman]

have upgraded rods and reels to better stuff now that retired. Question is I now have a Dobyns sa704 sf  med /heavy with a c14+ 2500. Love this setup but throwing distance is unsatisfactory in my opinion. started using 10lb braid last year on different reel and worked great. this reel distance is lacking. i am fishing alot of weeds and lily pad shorelines. Any suggestions to get more distance?  same with new baitcaster. am constantly adjusting breaks etc but distance is lacking. Is it the braid or to heavyof a pole. have a old sahara 2500 i can throw a mile

[LCG]

Are you fishing lures in the middle of the Lure rating if the rod? Casting into the wind? Spool filled up correctly? Leader knot catching on the guides? Casting technique off? It's not the braid, thin braid casts far. 

[Tywithay]

What weight baits are you using? A mh rod will struggle to load with finesse baits.

[cookieman]

using senko weighted and not weighted mostly  1/8 oz weights  just looked at rod and says 1/4 to 1 oz that seems pretty heavy to me for grass

[MN Fisher]

13 minutes ago, cookieman said:

using senko weighted and not weighted mostly  1/8 oz weights  just looked at rod and says 1/4 to 1 oz that seems pretty heavy to me for grass

1/8oz? You want a Light or Medium-Light to toss those - a 701SF or 702SF.

[Tywithay]

A 5" senko? Because those are missiles. If it's a 4" or smaller, then it's possible the rod might be struggling to load, but dobyns usually fish a little lighter, so it shouldn't be an issue. Is the spool underfilled at all? With 10lb braid you should be able to launch a senko, especially with a weight.

[RoLo]

 

By itself, a 5.0" Senko weighs 3/8 oz, and with a 1/8 sinker you'd be well within the rod's weight range.

Still, if you're not happy with the casting distance, a medium power spinning rod would remedy that.

 

Roger

[cookieman]

throwing a yum dinger @ 10grms or 0.35274 ounces so with 1/8 weight im in the pole weight specs. . Dobyns said this rod was what i needed for grass cover but maybe not.

[RoLo]

3 minutes ago, cookieman said:

throwing a yum dinger @ 10grms or 0.35274 ounces so with 1/8 weight im in the pole weight specs. . Dobyns said this rod was what i needed for grass cover but maybe not.

 

As it happens, my worm outfit is a Dobyns 704 SF with a Shimano Stadic reel and 20-lb braid.

I"m satisfied with the casting distance, but if I wasn't satisfied, I'd probably go with a Medium power blank.

 

Roger

[Tywithay]

7 minutes ago, cookieman said:

throwing a yum dinger @ 10grms or 0.35274 ounces so with 1/8 weight im in the pole weight specs. . Dobyns said this rod was what i needed for grass cover but maybe not.

Are you fishing from the bank? The rod will handle somewhat thick grass just fine. They probably suggested it because it's one of the heavier spinning rods in their Sierra lineup and designed for plastics. That doesn't have much to do with casting distance though.

[cookieman]

RoLo Roger  what do you get for approximate distance. maybe i am  expecting to much. I like the setup. thought i would got to side yard and see what it actually is getting

[jimmyjoe]

   Use your new Dobyns for this:

   1) Take a set of weights, like 1/4, 3/8, 1/2, and 3/4.  Try to cast them a good distance. Tally the results.

   2) Do the exact same thing with the Sahara and tally those results.

   3) Compare. 

   I'm gonna bet that the results will be the same. If your Sahara was casting further on a different rod, put the Ci4+ on that rod and compare results.

   Maybe rod is too stiff, guides are different, or stripper is a different distance, etc.?    jj

[cookieman]

jimmyjoe  good idea never even thought of that. as you get older  things upstairs  are slower.Ha Ha

[jimmyjoe]

 

18 minutes ago, cookieman said:

as you get older  things upstairs  are slower.

 

   Don't I know .... don't I know!  ??   jj

[new2BC4bass]

2 hours ago, MN Fisher said:

1/8oz? You want a Light or Medium-Light to toss those - a 701SF or 702SF.

I believe he means 1/8 oz. weight plus Senko which puts it right in the 704's wheelhouse.

 

OP, Can't help.  That outfit should bomb 1/2 oz. (total) baits.

[dodgeguy]

a 4000 series reel would cast further. try fireline it casts furthur than any line i know of on spinning.

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

Make sure you’re using the same rod to compare reels. I doubt the reel is the issue. Most likely the rod. Either not loading or guide train. Cast on the yard and look for the loops coming off the reel. If they’re ballooning and slapping the blank the first guide is too small or low for the reel. 

[QUAKEnSHAKE]

17 hours ago, cookieman said:

RoLo Roger  what do you get for approximate distance. maybe i am  expecting to much. I like the setup. thought i would got to side yard and see what it actually is getting

120-130 feet should be doable 

[WRB]

40+ yards with a 5" Senko....maybe down wind. 90'-100' is a long cast using MH 7' spinning tackle.

Tom

[Bankbeater]

If you're fishing around vegetation make sure your guides are clean and make sure your line doesn't have any small pieces of plant wrapped around it.  That kills my distance until I can get it cleaned off.

[OkobojiEagle]

On 6/22/2020 at 3:43 PM, cookieman said:

 i am fishing alot of weeds and lily pad shorelines. 

30'-50' is as far as I would want to cast in that environment...

 

oe

[islandbass]

Are you ensuring that the rod is being loaded by the weight of whatever you’re tossing? If the questions already posed aren’t the culprits, and because the weight you are tossing is well within the range of the rod, may I suggest perhaps the culprit might be in the mechanics of your cast.
 

The Reel and line you mentioned should be a recipe for beautiful and killer casts.  
 

Definitely piqued my curiosity. Keep us posted. 

[RedRob]

I chime in. Me and my brother went through this same thing. Came out to the rod. When all my joints worked right I could load up the tip of a MH rod pretty easy. Now my cast are a little slower and I find if I go use a rod that what every I am casting is towards the upper weight limit I am able to cast further and still be pretty precise on my aim. If I'm in the middle to lower weight of the rod I my distance starts falling off as fast as my aim cause I have to really move the rod to load it up. Reels are rarely the problem when it comes to distance. Other than mismatched sizing.