Koopster Posted June 18, 2020 Posted June 18, 2020 Good morning all! Getting back into fishing after many years off! Now that my son is finally showing interest (just turned 15), we're gearing back up and have been going out with friends and on a little 14ft boat we adopted from family. Most of my gear is OLD, with the exception of my Mojo rod purchased a couple years ago for a Canadian trip. I have a Diawa Tatula 100 on it, and just purchased a Curado DC and SLX DC for updated reels - the idea is to put the curado on my "main" rod and the SLX on his (Diawa AIRDx 7'3" MH F). I've fished with this rod a bit and really like the action and would like to get one for me, in the same range 7' - 7'3" MH F. Last night my son and I were at Cabela's shopping for the new rod for me and I ended up buying a St Croix Premier 7'0" MH M.. moderate! ugh! My mistake was in that I THOUGHT I had a fast action in my hands! I didn't realize until I got home. I did get a good deal on the rod - was $30 off, so it was $129. Thoughts on if I should fish with the moderate or return? I am wanting it for jigs/creature/worm - T-rigged weighted and weightless. I also intend for it to be a multi-purpose rod. Here's my rod selection.. Bass Mojo 7'6" MH MF 12-25lb 3/8 - 1 1/4 oz (bought 3 years ago for a Canadian trip for pike and back home for bass) Thorne Brothers custom 6'6" Heavy - no lure range marked. This was my main rod in the late 90's Fenwick Legacy 6'6" MH 10-20lb 3/8 - 1 oz (action not indicated - probably moderate - my secondary rod in the late 90's) Diawa AirX MH F 10-20lb 1/4 - 1 oz (Son's rod) I also have two St Croix Premier PC66MF 6'6" M Fast that my dad gave me. They currently have spin cast reels on them from his walleye bobber fishing days. The rods are probably 20 years old now but in brand new condition - I'm not sure what to do with them. Also - what are good applications for the two 6'6" MF rods? I suppose they'd work for throwing Senkos with the right reel? I do have a G Loomis Walleye 7'1" ML F spinning rod I've been using for Senko fishing. Any help would be greatly appreciated! We're just getting going here.. the lakes we're focusing on so far are smaller lakes in the Twin Cities Metro area - Lake Beebe in particular, in St Michael. We're up for any an all techniques. Thanks! Quote
Super User Teal Posted June 18, 2020 Super User Posted June 18, 2020 I think you can certainly use the rod. But if you wanted a fast action, go back and exchange it.. Quote
Super User Choporoz Posted June 18, 2020 Super User Posted June 18, 2020 I suspect that you got a very good spinnerbait/chatterbait rod. You probably should exchange it or get another. It will work for what you wanted, but I suspect that you'll be wanting a faster tip for worms and jigs before too long. As for the older MF rods, you should just try a number of different things on them and see what you like. Maybe light pitching/t-rig; or plastic swimbaits; rage bug on a weighted ewg hook, possibly even crankbaits or jerk baits. I had an older MF rod that was more MM by today's standards and worked great for med cranks and rattletraps. 1 Quote
Pogues2300 Posted June 18, 2020 Posted June 18, 2020 My personal preference i have a moderate action rod which i love for moving baits, swim jig, chatterbait, spinnerbait...etc. it certainly would work for your desired applications but based on what you said id return it for fast. I live in Bloomington Minnesota myself and lakes within 30 minutes all have plenty of weeds which i suppose helped me fall in love with swim jigs. I'd suggest you guys try them if you don't already since you are in somewhat the same area. Have fun! Quote
Vilas15 Posted June 18, 2020 Posted June 18, 2020 Thats a premier crankbait series which they just discontinued this year. Which Im mad about because i have that exact rod and love it and wanted to get the medium/moderate version for something a bit lighter. Its a great crankbait rod if you want to keep it. Perfect for 1/2 oz baits. Otherwise return it. Quote
Super User RoLo Posted June 18, 2020 Super User Posted June 18, 2020 There is no right or wrong 'action', which is a matter of task and preference. Moderate action favors casting distance and is useful for slack-line prevention and to reduce tear-offs Fast Action offers higher sensitivity (a biggie), quicker spine access and quicker hook-set response. Roger 4 Quote
JediAmoeba Posted June 18, 2020 Posted June 18, 2020 I would return it. I have this rod and it's really only good for small cranks and stuff. Anything over 1/2 oz is overpowering the rod. Also, it has little backbone for hooksets so, again, really only smaller treble baits. Quote
Koopster Posted June 18, 2020 Author Posted June 18, 2020 Thanks for all the help so far! I'll likely end up returning the rod, unfortunately. I've already blown my budget on reels so I need to focus on the one rod. Cabela's has an Abu Garcia Veritas that is the 7 or 7'3" MH and fast, with micro guides. For $100 is this a suitable replacement rod quality-wise? Any other rod suggestions? The pickings were slim at Cabelas, but I could go to a different fishing shop that has a better selection for St Croix, Diawa, Shimano and some others. I was looking at a Dobyn's Sierra for $170.. tons of options out there! Quote
Super User Choporoz Posted June 18, 2020 Super User Posted June 18, 2020 I don't know if Veritas has changed the last few years. I have one (Veritas II, maybe?). 7MHF. Very good $100 rod. I only use it sparingly now, because the Bait Monkey slapped me around pretty good, but I really liked it when it was new to me. I used it for jigs, t-rigs, spinnerbaits, frogs, toads.... Quote
Born 2 fish Posted June 18, 2020 Posted June 18, 2020 Try it I think you will like it my 7’3 arid x seems more like a moderate to me so it might be similar. Quote
Koopster Posted June 18, 2020 Author Posted June 18, 2020 27 minutes ago, Born 2 fish said: Try it I think you will like it my 7’3 arid x seems more like a moderate to me so it might be similar. Funny.. we were comparing them and I swear they are VERY similar in action - so what am I missing with an actual fast action? Or is the St Croix more of a fast action?? Quote
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