Super User South FLA Posted March 4, 2009 Super User Posted March 4, 2009 Many of us dream of being BASS or FLW Pro and would like to have their fast fully loaded rigs, but I haven't seen any run an Allison or Bullet, why is this? Would they not have an advantage of getting to a spot faster than the next guy or extending their time on the water? If it were me I would run an Allison XB-21 with the max allowable horsepower. Its probably that Allison or Bullet are from smaller manufactures, but if anyone has a better explanation please elaborate. Quote
-HAWK- Posted March 4, 2009 Posted March 4, 2009 The front and rear decks look pretty small. Seems like the boat is more orientated for speed than fishability. Quote
Super User South FLA Posted March 4, 2009 Author Super User Posted March 4, 2009 The front and rear decks look pretty small. Seems like the boat is more orientated for speed than fishability. Sorry, I posted the XB-21 2+2 image that seat 4 people. I've corrected the pic to show the bigger casting deck on the regular tournament boat deck. Quote
bassdocktor Posted March 4, 2009 Posted March 4, 2009 Not 100% sure about why they don't run those brands but I do believe there is a 250HP limit atleast in BASS. Quote
R520dvx Posted March 4, 2009 Posted March 4, 2009 First ... there is a 250 HP limit .... also those go fast boats don't fish very well from a stability and room standpoint. Had a good friend that ordered an Allison ... waited forever to get it .... then sold it about 6 weeks later because he hated fishing out of it. Real fast though !! Quote
Md Posted March 4, 2009 Posted March 4, 2009 Getting to a spot first is great...but these guys have boats that are versatile. They have to be able to fish all over the country from southern reservoirs to the great lakes. Also, things such as storage, reliable livewells and maneuverability are huge factors just to name a few. Getting to a spot first doesn't mean your going to catch more or better fish anyway. Just ask Steve Kennedy...he fished out of the little aluminum for years and cleaned everyones clock. It was the same one that he used at this years Classic. Quote
Super User cart7t Posted March 4, 2009 Super User Posted March 4, 2009 A couple things. 1. AS stated, go fast boats aren't always the best to fish out of. 2. Go fast boat builders don't build in high enough volume to justify spending $$$ to sponsor pro's to help sell their boats. Those boats are appealing to a rather small minority of anglers and those anglers already know about those brands. Advertising and sponsorship deals with pro's would gain them little. Quote
moloch16 Posted March 4, 2009 Posted March 4, 2009 There are some faster prototypes used by the pros check this one out here: Quote
Super User Catt Posted March 4, 2009 Super User Posted March 4, 2009 Straight line speed over a smooth surface is fine, now if I could find a lake that fits that profile. Quote
Triton21 Posted March 4, 2009 Posted March 4, 2009 My first Bass Boat was a Bullet. It was an '84, 19'6" with a 200 Merc. Fished great and got to my fish quick. I loved it. Was like "Dirt Tracking" on the Mountain Lakes in E KY. Great Fun!!!!!! I HAVE A 'NEED FOR SPEED'. Kelley Quote
Tuckman Posted March 5, 2009 Posted March 5, 2009 Gambler has been putting a few sponserships out there now...They might not be as quite fast as an Allison or a Bullet, but they have a ton of creature comforts, storage, a huge front deck, and there wont be many boats passing a Gambler down the lake. Not to mention they just look hella' nasty. On a side note One of my buddies picked up a new Stratos 294PXL with a 200 Vmax on back, and that boat flat out leaves 225's and some 250's in its wake...especially those Heavy Rangers...I think that the reason that the famous "Ranger Ride" is so important is because it takes so long to get to your spot... 8-) Quote
Big Tom Posted March 5, 2009 Posted March 5, 2009 I love me some Ranger Ride though. The best riding boat I have been on by far is a Skeeter. They ain't slow either. Quote
Bass Dude Posted March 5, 2009 Posted March 5, 2009 The front and rear decks look pretty small. Seems like the boat is more orientated for speed than fishability. I fished out of a Bullet and you are dead on. This boat hauled major a-- and rode really nice, but it was horrible to fish out of. At that time I was a co-angler and the back deck was VERY small. The storage sucked too!! The livewells weren't all that great either. Quote
Btech Posted March 5, 2009 Posted March 5, 2009 I'm sure they are also picking comfortably too being on the boat for days at a time all week. Quote
Super User 5bass Posted March 5, 2009 Super User Posted March 5, 2009 cart is right. The cookie cutter boats are much easier to find because they make so many and they spend a pile of money each year on advertising. That said....I love my Gambler! If you ever get a chance, crawl around in one for a little while and see what they're all about. Quote
Super User Way2slow Posted March 6, 2009 Super User Posted March 6, 2009 It would take a top named Pro to give one of those hydro rockets enough exposure to make it worth while for them to sponsor one. Then I don't think you could give one to a top name pro to fish out of it day in and day out. Storage ain't the best, Allison's actually handle rough water fairly well, but a Bullet is like being in a jon boat. I've never been in a Gambler so I can't comment on it. One point being over looked also is the fact that usually these boats are very load sensitive. Get a Pro's full tourney load, full live well and limit the HP to 250, they are not that much faster. Dang sure not enough to offset how how bad they are going to beat you up day in and day out. If you spent 270 days a year working and dang near living in automobile, would you rathen spend it in a Corvette, or a Cadilac. Quote
The Next KVD Posted March 6, 2009 Posted March 6, 2009 Lets not forget that the price is outragous! A Allison w/ a 175 Optimax is about $45,000! For that price I could get a Z19 w/ a 225 Optimax that will have alot better fishability, decent speed, and better resale value. + I can find one anywhere. Quote
Super User 5bass Posted March 6, 2009 Super User Posted March 6, 2009 One point being over looked also is the fact that usually these boats are very load sensitive. Get a Pro's full tourney load, full live well and limit the HP to 250, they are not that much faster. This is the point where hull designs come into play. Quote
Casey99 Posted March 6, 2009 Posted March 6, 2009 Sponsors. Since Triton/Skeeter sponsors BASS, guess what boat most pros are going to run. Same thing with FLW. They are sponsored by Ranger, most of the boats out there on the tour are Ranger. Quote
Super User SPEEDBEAD. Posted March 6, 2009 Super User Posted March 6, 2009 cart is right. The cookie cutter boats are much easier to find because they make so many and they spend a pile of money each year on advertising. That said....I love my Gambler! If you ever get a chance, crawl around in one for a little while and see what they're all about. I plan on it about 30 days from now.... ;D Quote
Bass Dude Posted March 6, 2009 Posted March 6, 2009 Sponsors. Since Triton/Skeeter sponsors BASS, guess what boat most pros are going to run. Same thing with FLW. They are sponsored by Ranger, most of the boats out there on the tour are Ranger. FLW Pros fish Ranger more for the bonus money they can get rather just the fact that Ranger is the major sponsor. Quote
Tuckman Posted March 6, 2009 Posted March 6, 2009 To be considered a priority registrant in any FLW tournament you have to own a Ranger Boat...they have a secondary deal for stratos and champion owners for the stren series, but all the other boat brand owners are left to scrabble over whatever is left...If your in the finals in a FLW major you may have to promote the FLW sponsors regardless of your loyalties. Quote
Bass Dude Posted March 6, 2009 Posted March 6, 2009 I was just on the Bullet website---take a look at Model 20CC. It's a center console with one seat. What would you do with this?? Not to mention the color scheme---it's just not my style!! Quote
Super User J Francho Posted March 6, 2009 Super User Posted March 6, 2009 I was just on the Bullet website---take a look at Model 20CC. It's a center console with one seat. What would you do with this?? Not to mention the color scheme---it's just not my style!! Get your own, better color scheme, fish alone, and have a 360° room to move around. Personally, I'd like a center console, but one that seats two or three. There's a guy that has a Bullet 20CC on another forum, and he has two jump seats that pop in place for passengers. Quote
Super User SPEEDBEAD. Posted March 6, 2009 Super User Posted March 6, 2009 That is a freakin' tough looking boat!!!! Quote
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