Who can teach me about line tie type/location on jigs?

[michael1]

I've read a lot on here about the style and location of the line type on a jig. I have tried to visualizing what all this means but not with a lot of success. I have also read about it depends on what type of line you are using. Can anyone point me to some illustrations or more clear info?

[WRB]

Hmmmm, do mean the hook eye location and hook style used for jigs? 

With 100's of jig types it's an open ended question.

Tom

[michael1]

27 minutes ago, WRB said:

Hmmmm, do mean the hook eye location and hook style used for jigs? 

With 100's of jig types it's an open ended question.

Tom

Yes. Eye location/syle compared to hook point and all that. I have heard some say it depends on what type of line you are using too.

[Catt]

When it comes to jigs everyone has their own personal repertoire of confusion!

 

What I look for in a jig is a smooth transition from the line to the eye & around the belly, which requires the eye (either one) to be slightly rolled forward. The reasoning is I want my jig to follow the line up to the cover & then slide over or through the cover smoothly. I want a quality brush/weed guard & a quality hook, both are more important to me than head design.

 

If I'm working a shoreline or offshore structure I do not switch jigs just because the cover changed; I can cast, swim, flip, pitch, or punch any style jig!

 

[Derek1]

5 minutes ago, Catt said:

When it comes to jigs everyone has their own personal repertoire of confusion!

 

What I look for in a jig is a smooth transition from the line to the eye & around the belly, which requires the eye (either one) to be slightly rolled forward. The reasoning is I want my jig to follow the line up to the cover & then slide over or through the cover smoothly. I want a quality brush/weed guard & a quality hook, both are more important to me than head design.

 

If I'm working a shoreline or offshore structure I do not switch jigs just because the cover changed; I can cast, swim, flip, pitch, or punch any style jig!

 

Great answer 

[WRB]

You hear and read a lot of things bass fishing, some true some not so true.

Jig hooks come in 90 degrees bend, 60, 30 and 28 degree bends. 28 degree being almost straight. The bend determines where on the jig head the eye is located, 90 being on top, 28 in the front nose end of the jig. 90 degree hooks are common on football, ball, darter head jigs. 60 degree on Arlie style bass jig with weed gaurd, 30 and 28 on fish head and grass jigs. The shorter the jig haed is the less room for the hook bend.

So far these are the basics. 

Standard eye jig hooks the eye is open looking at the hook laying flat or sideways to the line tie. Flat eye jig hooks are the a standard worm hook, is sideways layed flat. I see no advantage for flat eye jigs although like everything in bass fishing they have a following.

Type of line tied to a jig hook eye makes no difference is the jigs action, line diameter diameter can affect the rate of fall for a jig or any lure.

Tom

[OnthePotomac]

This may be of some help:

 

[michael1]

I am new to jig fishing and for mine I turned to Mike Siebert. He got me started with a pretty universal jig of his Grid Iron Arky Jig and I have posted a picture here. If I remember right it is a 60 degree, is that correct? I was just curious if the advantages or disadvantages of the different styles and if there are some that are better in grass, wood, etc...

[papajoe222]

Although there is no universal jig style, that being one that is best for all situations, there are some that work well in just about any situation.  One is an Arkie style and the other is a swim jig style.  That Siebert Grid Iron Arky is a hybrid of those two styles.  The line tie is at the nose rather than on top close to the nose and it is turned parallel to the hook,  That combination works well in vegetation and resembles a swim jig . The angle of the hook AND the weed guard give it the better attributes of an Arkie style jig which shines in wood and rocky cover. A true Arkie has the line tie similar to the arrangement in the video JIgs 101. When the jig head contacts cover, the skirt, hook and any trailer rock up and forward allowing the jig to climb over the cover without hanging up. 

The line you use has no bearing on a jig's action, but does on your ability to feel the bite, avoid line damage/failure, and fight the fish in the cover that the jig is presented.  That, along with the style jig, eye placement, hook angle, etc. is a personal decision.

[Catt]

 

Strike King Hack Attack Fluorocarbon Flipping Jig

 

 

[Michigander]

I never really noticed a difference in hook angle vs hook up or snag rate. I tend to go with vertical ties in grass and horizontal in wood. Not that I won't throw both in either but it's slightly less of a pain to be tossing well paired tackle with the cover on the lake/river.

 

My main thing is I want to make sure the hook thickness is paired with the line and rod I'm using. I like finesse jigs and big hook jigs, not much in between. They require vastly different line and rod power.

[Manifestgtr]

Jigs can make your head spin. There’s a million different types...they all look kind of different but they all look kind of the same and it starts making you wonder what matters and what doesn’t. Horizontal, vertical, hmmm...
 

This is going to sound weird but I do a lot of my jig fishing with swim jigs. I fish around a lot of docks, grass and wood piles...my swim jigs come nicely through all of that stuff, they pin trailers beautifully, they sit up on bottom better than you’d think, plus I can always just use them for their intended purpose when I want. They aren’t all I use. I like finesse jigs and footballs for real bottom contact and dragging. But it’s more the point that you just find what works after a bit of trial and error...my ties are mostly vertical (I think?) but that’s just a matter of happenstance. 

[Fastbee]

The Hack Attack Fluoro flipping jig and the Denny Brauer Structure jigs are my favorite mass produced jigs.  I'm kind of like Catt in that I don't change jigs just because the target changes.  I can work either of those through most any cover and both skip like rocks when needed due to the line tie to jig head transition.  My only exception is fishing a football jig in brush or laydowns...I typically reserve football jigs for rocky/sandy bottoms that are a little more open.

[michael1]

13 minutes ago, Fastbee said:

The Hack Attack Fluoro flipping jig and the Denny Brauer Structure jigs are my favorite mass produced jigs.  I'm kind of like Catt in that I don't change jigs just because the target changes.  I can work either of those through most any cover and both skip like rocks when needed due to the line tie to jig head transition.  My only exception is fishing a football jig in brush or laydowns...I typically reserve football jigs for rocky/sandy bottoms that are a little more open.

Yeah, Hackney's fluoro jig is one of the things making me ask if certain designs lent themselves more to certain types of lines of was that all just BS marketing stuff LOL

[RoLo]

 

I mainly fish shallow, weedy waters where weedlessness is a 'must'. 

Regardless of all other jig features, if it can't navigate aquatic vegetation it's basically useless

 

Back in the 70s (When Stanley jigs ruled), finding a jig with a line-eye on the nose,

was next to impossible. When I discovered "Denny Brauer's Weed Sneek" I was ecstatic,

and bought so many Weed Sneeks, I still have a bunch today. Soon thereafter the 'swim jig'

was born, a jig with a line-eye on the nose of the jighead (30-deg hook). As far as I'm concerned,

whether a swim jig is swimmed or not, the main feature is a line-eye on the nose of the jig. 

 

Roger

 

 

[Jason Penn]

2 hours ago, michael1 said:

Yeah, Hackney's fluoro jig is one of the things making me ask if certain designs lent themselves more to certain types of lines of was that all just BS marketing stuff LOL

i think the naming of the hack fc jig is based more on hook diameter than location of the eye.  i may be wrong, but i think it is a little lighter wire.

 

 

[michael1]

5 hours ago, Jason Penn said:

i think the naming of the hack fc jig is based more on hook diameter than location of the eye.  i may be wrong, but i think it is a little lighter wire.

 

 

Now THAT makes sense is probably the answer here

[Catt]

11 hours ago, Jason Penn said:

i think the naming of the hack fc jig is based more on hook diameter than location of the eye.  i may be wrong, but i think it is a little lighter wire.

 

 

 

It's actually both ?

 

Watch the above linked video Greg explains both.

 

While the hook is thinner in diameter it's far from a finesse hook.

 

As for vertical vs horizontal line tie, it makes no difference. Location of the line tie is more important.

[Jason Penn]

22 hours ago, Catt said:

 

It's actually both ?

 

Watch the above linked video Greg explains both.

 

While the hook is thinner in diameter it's far from a finesse hook.

 

As for vertical vs horizontal line tie, it makes no difference. Location of the line tie is more important.

from what i've seen in interviews, that cat likes a stout hook!