Riverside.bassin Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 Just wondering what you guys consider to be the best/strongest knot to tie a fluorocarbon leader to braid? Last season I was completely new to braid with fluoro leaders, and spent most of the summer trying to learn which knot was best to connect them. I totally forget which knot I used and where I learned it, but I’ll just say that I lost many fish due to it. I ended up just running straight braid, since the water I fish is pretty dirty anyway and I didn’t see much use for a leader. I would like to give the fluoro leader another shot though, so any advice for which connection knots are best will be greatly appreciated! Quote
Born 2 fish Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 Your gonna get a few different answers. But I’ve had great success with the alberto knot. 1 Quote
Ogandrews Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 The only know I use is the blood knot and it works flawlessly. It’s pretty easy to tie, very strong and very small diameter knot size. I never break off at the leader knot unless I mess the knot up. The main thing I will recommend you do regardless of what knot you tie is to try mono as a leader. Floro offers very little for benefits over mono as a leader material. Mono doesn’t burn as bad as floro, ties stronger knots, gives you extra stretch which is a good thing, is cheaper, and just handles better in general. Only time I use floro as a leader is with a jerkbait, everything else is mono. Especially while you are getting used to tying the knots it will really help. I’m not sure why everyone thinks that floro is the only way to go for leaders, unless your fishing Water with 30+ Foot of visibility than mono is going to be the way to go. 4 Quote
txchaser Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 FG is best, but it takes some practice to learn to tie right. Six turn surgeon knot is very fast and very reliable, but I haven't tested it vs alberto. Lots of people like the alberto. Quote
Super User OkobojiEagle Posted May 12, 2020 Super User Posted May 12, 2020 There is a search function on this site that can be of great help to you... 2 Quote
NJBasstard Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 I don't keep my leader long enough to enter the spool and I don't use micro guides so for anything 10lbs or less I'm usually tying a double uni. Anything larger I tie an FG knot. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted May 12, 2020 Super User Posted May 12, 2020 Alberto is the knot I tie best. FG gave me failures. Uni 2 Uni eemed to work well, until it didn't. On light braid/leader, (15/6) I've used a triple Surgeon's with good success. It's really all about tying a good knot. Quote
Hook2Jaw Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 The FG is best. I had failures until I started switching the overhands when tying. It's hard putting it into words, but when you're doing the finishing overhand knots after snipping the fluoro, do one over, one under, one over, one under. I haven't had any failures for several years. 1 Quote
Jermination Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 11 hours ago, Riverside.bassin said: Just wondering what you guys consider to be the best/strongest knot to tie a fluorocarbon leader to braid? Last season I was completely new to braid with fluoro leaders, and spent most of the summer trying to learn which knot was best to connect them. I totally forget which knot I used and where I learned it, but I’ll just say that I lost many fish due to it. I ended up just running straight braid, since the water I fish is pretty dirty anyway and I didn’t see much use for a leader. I would like to give the fluoro leader another shot though, so any advice for which connection knots are best will be greatly appreciated! Double uni is the easiest to tie on the water and i've never had any breakage issues. 10lb braid to 10lb fluoro, twist both lines 10x and pull tight. add a drop of superglue for extra confidence Quote
PourMyOwn Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 Yucatán is the one I tie best. I've had limited success tying FG knots, and I readily admit that it's all my fault! Quote
Super User NHBull Posted May 12, 2020 Super User Posted May 12, 2020 The one you can tie perfectly with a hangover. Uni to Uni on spinning gear. FG or PR for casting. ......keep in mind that this is a guy who cant tie a Palomar with out crossing the line Quote
Super User king fisher Posted May 12, 2020 Super User Posted May 12, 2020 I started using Blood Knot for line to line connections in the late 70's. I still do for making tapered fly leaders. Switched to Uni to Uni for braid to leader when super braids came out.. After 20 year using Uni to Uni for braid to leader, I switched to Alberto for light line, FG for heavy line. The Alberto has become as fast an easy for me to tie as Uni, to Uni or blood knot. FG takes more time. They have all worked well, and have all failed me at some time, that's fishing. Quote
Super User MassYak85 Posted May 12, 2020 Super User Posted May 12, 2020 I'm using Alberto for small diameter lines, blood knot for bigger. I tried the FG and it's good but I just can't fully trust the half hutch finishing method for it. And a knot I don't trust is a knit I won't use, even if it is a better knot. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted May 12, 2020 Super User Posted May 12, 2020 16 hours ago, Born 2 fish said: Your gonna get a few different answers. But I’ve had great success with the alberto knot. I have NEVER had a failure. Quote
Smokinal Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 I used the Blood for years and years; until I discovered the Alberto And, to me, the FG in FG knot stands for FuGedaboudit 1 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted May 12, 2020 Super User Posted May 12, 2020 I thought it was for something else... Quote
walleyecrazy Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 While the true “best” knot can be debated, the best knot for you will be the one that you can effectively tie. For me it’s the Alberto. I can tie it quickly and consistently without an issue. I haven’t seen any failures from it yet, so it’s the one that I always use. Quote
LionHeart Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 FG knot. Takes practice for sure. If you tie it wrong, you'll think Alberto, Blood, Double Uni, etc. is the best knot. If you tie it properly your eyes will be open ? 1 Quote
Super User Bankc Posted May 12, 2020 Super User Posted May 12, 2020 The best knot is the one you can tie correctly. Any knot can fail if you tie it wrong. So it's best to stick with whatever you're comfortable with than go with something that is supposed to be better, but you're not confident in. I only use the FG for tying on leaders to braid. It's strong and it's thin, so it casts well. I'd say it's easy, but only because I've tied it a bunch, and I only ever attempt to tie it in my living room, usually while watching TV. I use both hands, one foot, and my teeth to keep the lines tight while tying it, which sounds more complicated than it is. I bite down on one end of the braid and keep the other end of the braid under tension with my foot. My hands do all of the tying. So if I were out on a boat or on the bank, I'd probably choose another knot. But I usually give myself about 7 feet of leader (just short of it reaching the spool), and then if I need to cut it off while out fishing, I just skip the leader and go straight braid until I get back to my house. In all honesty, I use a leader more as a shock absorber and line saver (I'll keep using a spool of braid for years) than a stealthy tool. 1 Quote
Super User king fisher Posted May 12, 2020 Super User Posted May 12, 2020 3 hours ago, Bankc said: The best knot is the one you can tie correctly. Any knot can fail if you tie it wrong. So it's best to stick with whatever you're comfortable with than go with something that is supposed to be better, but you're not confident in. I only use the FG for tying on leaders to braid. It's strong and it's thin, so it casts well. I'd say it's easy, but only because I've tied it a bunch, and I only ever attempt to tie it in my living room, usually while watching TV. I use both hands, one foot, and my teeth to keep the lines tight while tying it, which sounds more complicated than it is. I bite down on one end of the braid and keep the other end of the braid under tension with my foot. My hands do all of the tying. So if I were out on a boat or on the bank, I'd probably choose another knot. But I usually give myself about 7 feet of leader (just short of it reaching the spool), and then if I need to cut it off while out fishing, I just skip the leader and go straight braid until I get back to my house. In all honesty, I use a leader more as a shock absorber and line saver (I'll keep using a spool of braid for years) than a stealthy tool. I used to use my teeth hands and feet to tie the FG too. Last year I watched a video on U Tube showing how to tie the knot with only your two hands. Crossing the line and holding the crosses between your thumb and finger.( hard to explain) You don't have to have tension, to tie it this way. All the people I have showed this method have changed the way they tie the FG. It still takes more time than an Alberto, but can be done in any conditions. I prefer Alberto with light line. Also a few good videos showing the common mistakes made with the Alberto most common mistake is not trimming the tag on the leader end close enough. Causing the main line to catch on the tag, eventually weakening the line above the knot. Quote
Super User WRB Posted May 13, 2020 Super User Posted May 13, 2020 21 hours ago, Ogandrews said: The only know I use is the blood knot and it works flawlessly. It’s pretty easy to tie, very strong and very small diameter knot size. I never break off at the leader knot unless I mess the knot up. The main thing I will recommend you do regardless of what knot you tie is to try mono as a leader. Floro offers very little for benefits over mono as a leader material. Mono doesn’t burn as bad as floro, ties stronger knots, gives you extra stretch which is a good thing, is cheaper, and just handles better in general. Only time I use floro as a leader is with a jerkbait, everything else is mono. Especially while you are getting used to tying the knots it will really help. I’m not sure why everyone thinks that floro is the only way to go for leaders, unless your fishing Water with 30+ Foot of visibility than mono is going to be the way to go. ^^^^good advice^^^^ Tom 1 Quote
Super User RoLo Posted May 13, 2020 Super User Posted May 13, 2020 BRAID TO FLUORO? NEVER GAVE THAT A THOUGHT! 1 1 Quote
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