Rod Recommendation

[dsw1204]

I am relatively new to fishing (in my second season of fishing) and I find myself looking for another rod, but this rod is for a specific purpose.  I, currently, have three rods.  They are:

 

1.  Cadence CR5 7' MHF...love this rod, this is my main rod

2.  Daiwa PR-S 662MFS-B  6 1/2' M...do not like this rod, does not cast very smoothly

3.  Ugly Stik Elite USESP602M 6' M...this rod is okay, use it for creek fishing because of it's size

 

I would like a rod to throw heavier lures than what my Cadence can throw (1 oz max).  I am finding a desire to throw some big rat lures and maybe some swimbaits.

 

The rod must be one to accommodate a spinning reel.  I have two...Shimano Ultegra 4000XG and Pflueger Supreme XT SUPXTSP30.  I am, also, a bank fisherman, if that makes a difference.

 

I am the type of guy who would like to have the best, but cannot afford it. I usually look for the best bang for the buck, thus the Cadence rod.  I do not know much about rods, but the Cadence just feels like it oozes quality and was not expensive.

 

What would you guys/gals recommend for me?

[swhit140]

I'd probably go with Diawa Aird X or Shimano Clarus if you aren't looking to spend much. 

 

 

[dsw1204]

3 minutes ago, swhit140 said:

I'd probably go with Diawa Aird X if you aren't looking to spend much. 

 

 

Looks nice, but it looks like the heaviest lure it can throw is 1 oz with the MH.  I would like it to handle up to 4 oz lures.  Sorry, I should have mentioned that.

[MN Fisher]

5 minutes ago, dsw1204 said:

Looks nice, but it looks like the heaviest lure it can throw is 1 oz with the MH.  I would like it to handle up to 4 oz lures.  Sorry, I should have mentioned that.

Then look at the Diawa DXSB line - around $100 and there are 4 models that range 1oz-6oz up to 4oz-14oz. They are 8'0" length, but most swimbait-specific rods are longer - and that's what you're going to need to toss those heavy lures.

 

Should note that it's BC only on the DXSB - otherwise you might have to look at saltwater rods.

[swhit140]

10 minutes ago, dsw1204 said:

Looks nice, but it looks like the heaviest lure it can throw is 1 oz with the MH.  I would like it to handle up to 4 oz lures.  Sorry, I should have mentioned that.

I don't know if you'll find a whole lot of spinning rod to throw a 4oz lure unless you're looking for off shore fishing rod.

[MN Fisher]

6 minutes ago, swhit140 said:

I don't know if you'll find a spinning rod to throw a 4oz lure.

Diawa Harrier Jigging rod - about $100 - the 7'0" MH/R is rated 1.75oz to 4.5oz.

 

That's about the best you're going to get price/performance wise in a spinning rod capable of handling those weights.

[dsw1204]

Doing some additional research I found a couple of swimbait spinning rods that look rather interesting to me.  They are Dobyns Rods Fury Series FR 795SB Medium/Heavy Power Fast Action Swimbait rod and Ugly Stik Tiger Elite spinning rod.

 

The Ugly Stik is a 7' Heavy Moderate action rod and can handle lures from 1-5 oz.  It sells for about $80.

 

The Dobyns Rods Fury Series FR 795SB is a 7'9" is a Medium/heavy, fast action rod than can, also, handle lures from 1-5 oz.  It sells for about $130.

 

Can anybody weigh in on these two rods?  How does one compare against the other?  How do they compare to the ones already mentioned earlier in this thread?

 

I kinda like the Dobyns because I've read a lot of great reviews and testimonials about the company and their rods.

[Born 2 fish]

Walmart cat fish special spinning rod. It’s cheap,strong it’s not very light but will do what you want. 

[dsw1204]

Why the heck do you throw in a "Walmart cat fish special"?  This is absolutely useless and not appreciated!

[MN Fisher]

20 minutes ago, dsw1204 said:

Can anybody weigh in on these two rods?  How does one compare against the other?  How do they compare to the ones already mentioned earlier in this thread?

 

I kinda like the Dobyns because I've read a lot of great reviews and testimonials about the company and their rods.

The Dobyns SB rods are baitcasters.

[CrankFate]

I see no reason anyone should be throwing 4oz to bass from the bank? Why are you throwing 4 oz to bass?

[Tywithay]

8 minutes ago, CrankFate said:

I see no reason anyone should be throwing 4oz to bass from the bank? Why are you throwing 4 oz to bass?

Swimbaits...he mentioned it in his post.

 

Your best bet is going to be inshore rods. The Tsunami Carbon Shield 8' XH is rated 1-4oz. Penn Squadron is only like $50 and has a 7' H rod rated 1-4oz. I'm sure there are comparable rods from other manufacturers. Just have to look around the google.

 

 

[dsw1204]

59 minutes ago, MN Fisher said:

The Dobyns SB rods are baitcasters.

I thought those were spinning rods.  I, actually, talked to Dobyns on the phone and I am almost positive they said the Fury Series FR 795SB was a spinning rod.  Maybe I got it wrong.  I will call them, again, tomorrow.

1 hour ago, CrankFate said:

I see no reason anyone should be throwing 4oz to bass from the bank? Why are you throwing 4 oz to bass?

As I said in my opening post, I am relatively new to fishing and not all that knowledgeable with fishing facts, and such.  But, why not throw 4 oz lures for bass from the bank?

 

I, currently, am not throwing the big lures.  I just have a desire to do so.  And, that is why I am looking into this.  Is there a reason I should not be doing so?  Please enlighten me.  If this is going to be a waste of money for me, then I will not get into this venture.  But, I cannot figure why throwing big lures from the bank is a bad idea.

[MN Fisher]

7 minutes ago, dsw1204 said:

I thought those were spinning rods.  I, actually, talked to Dobyns on the phone and I am almost positive they said the Fury Series FR 795SB was a spinning rod.  Maybe I got it wrong.  I will call them, again, tomorrow.

 

With the trigger - sure looks like a BC rod to me.

http://dobynsrods.com/rod/fr-795sb/

[dsw1204]

3 minutes ago, MN Fisher said:

 

With the trigger - sure looks like a BC rod to me.

http://dobynsrods.com/rod/fr-795sb/

I am not sure how a baitcasting rod looks different from a spinning rod.  The Dobyns website is not very informative about their rods.  It does not state which rods are baitcasters and which are spinning rods.  There's probably some code in the model numbers that let people know which are which.

 

I kinda like that Tsunami Carbon Shield 8' XH rod.  I'll have to do a little research on that one.  Does that one have those micro-sized eyelets on the rod?  If so, what is the advantage to those tiny little eyelets some rods have?

[MN Fisher]

4 minutes ago, dsw1204 said:

I am not sure how a baitcasting rod looks different from a spinning rod. 

It's all in the handle

Spinning rod (Fury 703SF)

 

Casting Rod (Fury 703C)

Notice the lack of a 'trigger' in the spinning rod. Also, the reel seat goes into the cork part of the handle as opposed to the casting rod where the seat is completely in front of the cork.

 

The trigger is the key though. In 50+ years of fishing, I've never seen a spinning rod with a trigger.

[dsw1204]

2 minutes ago, MN Fisher said:

It's all in the handle

Spinning rod (Fury 703SF)

 

Casting Rod (Fury 703C)

Notice the lack of a 'trigger' in the spinning rod. Also, the reel seat goes into the cork part of the handle as opposed to the casting rod where the seat is completely in front of the cork.

 

The trigger is the key though. In 50+ years of fishing, I've never seen a spinning rod with a trigger.

Now I know.  Thanks.  Was just looking at a couple of my spinning rods and they definitely do NOT have that trigger.  Thanks, again.

[Tywithay]

1 hour ago, dsw1204 said:

I am not sure how a baitcasting rod looks different from a spinning rod.  The Dobyns website is not very informative about their rods.  It does not state which rods are baitcasters and which are spinning rods.  There's probably some code in the model numbers that let people know which are which.

 

I kinda like that Tsunami Carbon Shield 8' XH rod.  I'll have to do a little research on that one.  Does that one have those micro-sized eyelets on the rod?  If so, what is the advantage to those tiny little eyelets some rods have?

The main advantage to the small eyelets is weight savings. There's some that claim better casting or line management, but weight is the only advantage I've seen. 

[CrankFate]

20 hours ago, dsw1204 said:

I thought those were spinning rods.  I, actually, talked to Dobyns on the phone and I am almost positive they said the Fury Series FR 795SB was a spinning rod.  Maybe I got it wrong.  I will call them, again, tomorrow.

As I said in my opening post, I am relatively new to fishing and not all that knowledgeable with fishing facts, and such.  But, why not throw 4 oz lures for bass from the bank?

 

I, currently, am not throwing the big lures.  I just have a desire to do so.  And, that is why I am looking into this.  Is there a reason I should not be doing so?  Please enlighten me.  If this is going to be a waste of money for me, then I will not get into this venture.  But, I cannot figure why throwing big lures from the bank is a bad idea.

Yes, there is a reason.  Unless you’re throwing an A-Rig, you don’t need that much weight. You will get a much better presentation using under one ounce. Take any bass lure (except the big Swimbaits that were mentioned), put it in clear water, maybe a swimming pool. It shoots down to the bottom like a bullet. Having done most of my bass fishing in clear water, I see the fish pay more attention to things sinking naturally. Nothing they are looking for shoots down to the bottom like a bullet. They tend to get away from things that do that, especially if they hit a hard bottom Like rocks and make a loud noise, because the only thing throwing rocks is people. Bass pay more attention to the slow flutter of something sinking with little weight to it, like a big moth, or cicada, or a worm. Nothing they eat has four ounces of dead weight in it. You will almost never catch a bass on a dead bait, they pick up something with 4 ounces of metal on it, they’ll drop it too quick For you to ever set the hook.

[Throwafrog]

I would check out some musky rods, a lot of the musky guys are throwing heavier lures and they tend to use spinning rods more often tham bass fisherman.

[NOC 1]

On 5/11/2020 at 8:24 PM, dsw1204 said:

Why the heck do you throw in a "Walmart cat fish special"?  This is absolutely useless and not appreciated!

My guess is the the poster was trying to help you. You want a spinning rod to throw 4 OZ baits?

That is a pretty unusual request unless you are going surf casting......or....wait for it...river fishing for giant catfish.

If you don't like the Walmart version..Bass Pro has one too.