Bps carbon lite 2.0 spinning reel

[Theripper666]

Anyone own one? What is it based off,how do u like em is it worth it to pick one up?

[dodgeguy]

not an aluminm frame.would not buy it.

[moguy1973]

I have one that I bought for my wife to use.  It's a nice spinning reel for the price.  Very light and smooth.

[Beeno]

10 hours ago, dodgeguy said:

not an aluminm frame.would not buy it.

I’ve actually never had a plastic and or carbon fiber reel fail on me because it’s made of plastic actually I’ve had some pretty good experience with them some of the best spinning reels I’ve had were made of plastic.

[dodgeguy]

ive had necks break on spinning under high drag conditions in weeds with braid.friends have had casting reel seats break.

 

[jimmyjoe]

9 minutes ago, dodgeguy said:

ive had necks break on spinning under high drag conditions in weeds with braid

 

   Please tell us more about that. What was the brand of braid, and what was the test? Which reel was that? Was the drag on the reel all the way down?  And you used the plural ; "necks".  Did this happen more than once?  This sounds interesting, and I'd like to know more about it if I could.        jj

[dodgeguy]

happened on mitchell reels (2) and shimano(1) pflueger president (1)20lb pp. yes drags were tight. neck twists and you hear a snap.doesnt break off but the graphite is compromised and the reel twists severely under pressure. the casting reels were guys i know .i never broke a casting reel seat. ive seen other guys break spinning reel necks off over the years trying to get fish out of weeds. lots of guys have had graphite reels develop gear issues from flex and misalignment. IMHO aluminum cant be beat.

[Big-Bass]

The new BPS Carbonlite 2.0 is a Daiwa.  It is buttery smooth and for the price is a nice reel.  Similar features to the Exceler but with BPS (actually more like old Shimano Stradic) colors.  I have quite a few Daiwa spinning reels from the Exist, Luvias, Ballistic, down to the Legalis and Revros and this reel feels nicer than the Legalis.  When they go on sale for $49 with free shipping it is a steal.  

 

https://www.basspro.com/shop/en/bass-pro-shops-johnny-morris-carbonlite-20-spinning-reel

[jimmyjoe]

51 minutes ago, dodgeguy said:

lots of guys have had graphite reels develop gear issues from flex and misalignment. IMHO aluminum cant be beat.

 

   I see.  So the graphite reels develop gear issues but .... the aluminum ones don't? Interesting. (See below.)

   When those necks snapped, it sounds like there was a pretty good amount of stress on the reels, what with the weeds and all. Can you remember the model number or at least size of the reels? Like, was the first one a 20 or 25 size, and then your second was the same size so you up-sized, or did you up-size immediately? Or did you have 30 or 35 size reels from the git-go?

   I've been looking at a new reel. It would be used for bass, but in water where there are musky have been stocked. Not only that, but the shallow end and north side have fairly good weed beds. In the past, I've avoided those conditions. Now, however, I've decided to tackle this lake aggressively, mostly because it has really nice bass.

   One salesman I know (he's a good fisherman) flat out told me, "Use your drag. That's what it's there for. If you lock it down you'll have trouble whether you're using a spinning or a casting reel."   Another salesman simply told me, "If you need high stress on a graphite reel, just go a size larger." He meant use a 40 instead of a 35, etc.

   One of the reasons I need to get this clear in my mind is that I've had both graphite and aluminum reels in the past, and I've had geartrain problems with BOTH of them.

   And I had bought the aluminum to avoid the problems I had with the graphite.  Bummer.

   So any light you can shine on this problem would be appreciated.    ?       jj

[Big-Bass]

18 minutes ago, jimmyjoe said:

 

   I see.  So the graphite reels develop gear issues but .... the aluminum ones don't? Interesting. (See below.)

   When those necks snapped, it sounds like there was a pretty good amount of stress on the reels, what with the weeds and all. Can you remember the model number or at least size of the reels? Like, was the first one a 20 or 25 size, and then your second was the same size so you up-sized, or did you up-size immediately? Or did you have 30 or 35 size reels from the git-go?

   I've been looking at a new reel. It would be used for bass, but in water where there are musky have been stocked. Not only that, but the shallow end and north side have fairly good weed beds. In the past, I've avoided those conditions. Now, however, I've decided to tackle this lake aggressively, mostly because it has really nice bass.

   One salesman I know (he's a good fisherman) flat out told me, "Use your drag. That's what it's there for. If you lock it down you'll have trouble whether you're using a spinning or a casting reel."   Another salesman simply told me, "If you need high stress on a graphite reel, just go a size larger." He meant use a 40 instead of a 35, etc.

   One of the reasons I need to get this clear in my mind is that I've had both graphite and aluminum reels in the past, and I've had geartrain problems with BOTH of them.

   And I had bought the aluminum to avoid the problems I had with the graphite.  Bummer.

   So any light you can shine on this problem would be appreciated.    ?       jj

The drag is the most essential part of a spinning reel.  Period.  Locking the drag on a spinning reel is actually kind of funny and almost silly.  I lock my drag down on my casting reels when I am fishing frogs in heavy pads or jigs when I want to really put an oomph on a fish.  Spinning reels are about finesse.  Lock your drag down on a 6lb. smallmouth in the St. Lawrence and I can tell you what will happen with that fish LOL...oh wait it will be gone faster than I can explain.  Aluminum framed reels are more rigid than others but products like Ci4 and Zaion are better blends of composite that resist flex.  I have aluminum and composite framed reels in sizes from 500-3012H and have had no issues with flex.  Daiwa's Exist at $800 is Zaion, the Stella at $800 is Magnesium (not aluminum), and some of the best selling spinning reels out there are composite (Stradic Ci4, Tatula LT, etc.).  If you are using lower quality reels with cheap graphite and then add no flex braid with a locked down reel and I would then assume a cheap rod with a crummy reel seat since you wouldn't put a cheap reel on a good rod, you may have issues but again, those are extremes.  Just like if you take a Honda Civic off road you can expect the frame to flex and maybe even snap.  

[dodgeguy]

2 hours ago, jimmyjoe said:

 

   I see.  So the graphite reels develop gear issues but .... the aluminum ones don't? Interesting. (See below.)

   When those necks snapped, it sounds like there was a pretty good amount of stress on the reels, what with the weeds and all. Can you remember the model number or at least size of the reels? Like, was the first one a 20 or 25 size, and then your second was the same size so you up-sized, or did you up-size immediately? Or did you have 30 or 35 size reels from the git-go?

   I've been looking at a new reel. It would be used for bass, but in water where there are musky have been stocked. Not only that, but the shallow end and north side have fairly good weed beds. In the past, I've avoided those conditions. Now, however, I've decided to tackle this lake aggressively, mostly because it has really nice bass.

   One salesman I know (he's a good fisherman) flat out told me, "Use your drag. That's what it's there for. If you lock it down you'll have trouble whether you're using a spinning or a casting reel."   Another salesman simply told me, "If you need high stress on a graphite reel, just go a size larger." He meant use a 40 instead of a 35, etc.

   One of the reasons I need to get this clear in my mind is that I've had both graphite and aluminum reels in the past, and I've had geartrain problems with BOTH of them.

   And I had bought the aluminum to avoid the problems I had with the graphite.  Bummer.

   So any light you can shine on this problem would be appreciated.    ?       jj

Aluminum is far stiffer and doesn't flex. All reels were 4000 size. Yes it was a lot of strain pulling 5 lb bass out of thick weedbeds in the summer. Don't member model numbers was over 30 years ago.Use all baitcasters now. Baitcasters have progressed to the point where you can use them for really light lures.

Never had issues with aluminum spinning or magnesium reels. If your fishing musky get a 4000.i listened to kvd who doesn't use small spinners.he says it's not worth the line issues. Less issues with bigger spool on a spinning reel especially with flouro. Pflueger makes a spinning reel for 99 with magnesium frame. Used mine for years then gave it to my daughter who is still using it.i personally prefer Lews reels

[jimmyjoe]

1 hour ago, dodgeguy said:

Don't member model numbers was over 30 years ago.

 

   Holy cow, man! Thirty years ago? Don't you think that improvements have been made in plastic spinning equipment since thirty years ago?  You said that baitcasters have improved. Don't you think that maybe plastic spinning reels have improved right along with them??

 

   So let me get this straight: thirty years ago, you tightened the drag down too tight on several 4000-size plastic spinning reels, and then you tried to haul big bass out of weeds and ruined the reels. So now, thirty years later, you stomp on plastic reels out-of-hand, even to people who show no signs of using them the same way you did.

   As for the musky, they are stocked in a lake that just so happens to have a good population of great bass, and sometimes the musky get in the way. I have to deal with that. I'm not targeting them, but you might say they're targeting me.

 

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   I think @BaitFinesse and @Big-Bass are pretty close to the point: plastic has improved, but people always need to use a reel within it capabilities, whether it's a spinning or a casting reel, and whether it's plastic or metal.        jj

[slowworm]

The only spinning reel I ever had break was aluminum, oddly enough about 30 years ago.   Unless you are paying hundreds and hundreds of dollars,  you aren't getting a forged or machined frame on an aluminum spinning reel.  You are getting a die or MIM cast frame, which is arguably no better than plastic/graphite, and quite possibly worse.  

 

Which is why my reel broke 30 years ago.  There was a void in the stem from the casting process.  

 

Bottom line, use what you like and feels good and don't worry about what it's made of.

 

J.

 

 

 

 

[dodgeguy]

1 hour ago, jimmyjoe said:

 

   Holy cow, man! Thirty years ago? Don't you think that improvements have been made in plastic spinning equipment since thirty years ago?  You said that baitcasters have improved. Don't you think that maybe plastic spinning reels have improved right along with them??

 

   So let me get this straight: thirty years ago, you tightened the drag down too tight on several 4000-size plastic spinning reels, and then you tried to haul big bass out of weeds and ruined the reels. So now, thirty years later, you stomp on plastic reels out-of-hand, even to people who show no signs of using them the same way you did.

   As for the musky, they are stocked in a lake that just so happens to have a good population of great bass, and sometimes the musky get in the way. I have to deal with that. I'm not targeting them, but you might say they're targeting me.

 

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   I think @BaitFinesse and @Big-Bass are pretty close to the point: plastic has improved, but people always need to use a reel within it capabilities, whether it's a spinning or a casting reel, and whether it's plastic or metal.        jj

Drag was not to tight. Don't build a reel that can't take the drag stack you built it with. That's called junk.you buy what you like I could care less. I would not spend money on any composite frame reel.

[JustJames]

I’m trying to figure if Carbonlite based on which model of Daiwa. It might be Regal LT plus Air bail or Exceler LT plus 2 xtra bearing(Exceler doesn’t come with 2000 size here is US). No matter what it a hard plastic not Zion. I wouldn’t use this in 3000 size and up or in saltwater. I have heard a lot about stem flex under load. For bass fishing, you should be fine. 

If you like high speed 6.2x ~30-35 IPT on 1000 and 1500 go with BPS, otherwise you might be able to find Daiwa cheaper( you can choose high speed or low speed on Daiwa on 2500 size and up from Amazon)

Anyway the BPS 1000 ~ 1000LT, 1500 ~ 2000LT, 2000 ~ 2500LT (bass on drag capacity and weight)
Anyone that have this reel can confirm if handle screw in (Exceler) or hex.

 

Dont you just like Daiwa, they add only one small item and call it a new model (about 5-7 in LT line up)

Regal no airbail more bearing hex handle

Regalis  add airbail less bearing count hex handle

Exceler = Regalis + screw in handle

Fuego = Exceler + Magseal + 1 bearing

 

[Beeno]

21 hours ago, dodgeguy said:

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