Super User Jig Man Posted February 23, 2009 Super User Posted February 23, 2009 Which 2 stroke, carb, EFI, or DI? There is a world of difference right there. Quote
Triton21 Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 2 stroke faster, 4 stroke last longer, slower, with ea in same hp. Quote
Super User Sam Posted February 23, 2009 Super User Posted February 23, 2009 Two stroke cheaper to maintain. Two stroke proven and there is a lot of data about their maintenance and performance; four stroke technology is new so there is not enough data to give us a valid overview after ten years of service. Four stroke weighs more than a two stroke. Four stroke is quieter than a two stroke. Four stroke is expensive. Lots of guys and maintenance people know two strokes. Four strokes are new so if you have a problem you will have to take it to the dealer where repair charges will be higher. Anything else, guys? Quote
Super User Wayne P. Posted February 23, 2009 Super User Posted February 23, 2009 In the smaller sizes, there is no choice for a new one. All are 4-stroke. Quote
=Matt 5.0= Posted February 23, 2009 Author Posted February 23, 2009 Thanx guys. I MAY be buying a new Tracker 175 this year. It depends on if I sell the Mustang. I'm looking at the Merc 50 right now. Trying to stay under 15k for the total package. Thanx again for the info. Quote
done Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 I actually have that particular one singled out for the next year when I look into getting a new one. If you get it let me know how it runs for ya. Quote
Triton21 Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 Two stroke cheaper to maintain.Two stroke proven and there is a lot of data about their maintenance and performance; four stroke technology is new so there is not enough data to give us a valid overview after ten years of service. Four stroke weighs more than a two stroke. Four stroke is quieter than a two stroke. Four stroke is expensive. Lots of guys and maintenance people know two strokes. Four strokes are new so if you have a problem you will have to take it to the dealer where repair charges will be higher. Anything else, guys? The military did a study on 2 and 4 stroke motors and the 4 stroke outlasted the 2 stroke many, many more hours. The 4 stroke is maintained just like you automobile motor. Quote
Branuss04 Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 Be sure to take in your lake rules when debating on a motor. I know in the lovely state of California, we have many lake that have a ban on 2 stroke motors.... Just something to think about Quote
Super User Raul Posted February 23, 2009 Super User Posted February 23, 2009 Four stroke weighs more than a two stroke. NO KIDDIN ! I 'm still on the look to upgrade LATINASESINA 's ouboard from 6.5 to 9.9 HPs ( not that I "need" it ), so I was comparing the outboards and side by side a 9.9 two stroke looks like a toy next to a 9.9 four stroke, weight difference between both is 17 kilograms ! I 'm not that big and strong ( 110 pounds ) to be able to lift a 44 kilogram outboard, plus it reduces the weight carrying capacity of the boat by 17 kilograms. Which you choose, 17 kilograms of outboard or 17 extra kilograms of fishing gear ? Quote
=Matt 5.0= Posted February 23, 2009 Author Posted February 23, 2009 I'm assuming that mixing the 2 cycle engine oil is the same as a chain saw? Quote
Olebiker Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 You don't have to worry about it any more. My new 50 hp Mercury 2 stroke has a reservoir for oil on the motor. You just put straight gas in the gas tank and keep sufficient oil in the reservoir. I have an older 17 foot Bass Tracker and was trying to decide between a 2 and 4 stroke last year. The original 2 stroke 50 hp Mercury lasted almost 25 years and I got a very good deal on a new-old-stock 2 stroke 50. The new motor will outlast the boat. Quote
=Matt 5.0= Posted February 23, 2009 Author Posted February 23, 2009 Nice! Again, thanx for the info! 8-) Quote
TommyBass Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 Personally I have had 2 90 hp 2 strokes... a merc and a force. I will never go back to that. I am now running a 90 yamaha 4 stroke and its a world of difference. 2 Strokes are lighter and maybe a little faster. The fast part is mostly due to the weight though. They are also usually a bit physically smaller. They require mixing oil. Depending on the motor this can be as hassel or not that bad. My merc had a reservoir for your oil and it automatically injected it, not to bad just had to pay attention... the force however you had to sit there at the gas station with a measuring cup and do the ratio required... its a pain and a mess. 2 Strokes also burn dirtier than a 4 stroke.. both emmisions and internally. I have had to change the plugs out on a 2 stroke on several occaisions during just 1 fishing season. They are normally VERY tempermental and cold natured, especially on the first startup of the day. 4 Strokes are obviously the opposite of what I just said. They are heavier, larger, and a bit slower. But I feel their maintenance is easier and they seem much more reliable. They also get much better mpg or gph fuel usage. 4 strokes are DEFINATELY quieter. I went through this same deceision with my new boat last fall. With my 18 ft jon, a 90 2 vs a 90 4 the differences were as follows. 4 strk was 4 mph slower with top end of 42 and about 100 lbs heavier. 4 strk was several gph better on fuel usage. Ease of start with the 4 stroke is so much better its not close. It is also so quiet sometimes I have to look back to see if its running. 4 strk $800 more.. which isnt much considering your buying a new boat. Not sure how true it is but my dealer said 2 strokes will be fased out of production with the next few years. If thats true, parts and maintenance on those will increase quite a bit. I was VERY close to buying the 2 stroke and changed my mind at the last second and it was the best deceison I made for that new boat. Think long and hard about it, its a bigger deceision then you think if you use your boat very much. Quote
jamarkwe Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 I have a tracker175 with a merc 50hp 2 stroke and I love it.. But If i could do it all over again I would go with 60hp 4 stroke. 8-) Th 4 stoke would be well worth the money and very very easy to maintain. Quote
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