Problem with line management on spinning reel

[kayaking_kev]

I've been using spinning gear a little more this year for cold water finesse bass fishing and for pan-fish. I have very little experience with spinning reels overall, but I've been having a problem during retrieve, with my line missing the spool on the bottom and wrapping around the frame instead.

 

What causes this and what can I do to solve it? 

 

I been using a size 2000 reel with 6# Mono.

[Log Catcher]

You may have put too much line on the reel. It needs to be filled to about 1/8" below the lip of the spool. Always close the bail by hand after you make a cast. After closing the bail pull the line tight on the reel and then start your retrieve.

[Hammer 4]

Are you closing the bail with your hand..? if not, do that.

[kayaking_kev]

Just now, Hammer 4 said:

Are you closing the bail with your hand..? if not, do that.

Yes, always.

[MN Fisher]

1 minute ago, Hammer 4 said:

Are you closing the bail with your hand..? if not, do that.

The only spinner I don't do this with is my old Pflueger 640 - that one actually has a metal catch that engages the bail...only way to release it is to operated the handle.

[Hammer 4]

Just now, kayaking_kev said:

Yes, always.

Good. What brand reel is it..?

[kayaking_kev]

1 minute ago, Hammer 4 said:

Good. What brand reel is it..?

Daiwa Revros LT

[Hammer 4]

Just now, kayaking_kev said:

Daiwa Revros LT

O.K..is the line laying on straight, i.e. flat on the spool, or is the thicker at one end .?

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

If you’re working a jerk bait or other technique that throws slack into the line maybe reel faster to keep the loops to a minimum. 

[kayaking_kev]

1 minute ago, Hammer 4 said:

O.K..is the line laying on straight, i.e. flat on the spool, or is the thicker at one end .?

Seems flat to me.

1 minute ago, Delaware Valley Tackle said:

If you’re working a jerk bait or other technique that throws slack into the line maybe reel faster to keep the loops to a minimum. 

No jerkbait, but we have had at least 15 mph here in Ohio seems about everyday for awhile now.

[JustJames]

Because you reel in while line is slack. It happened to me as well not with all the line mostly stiffer line. I don’t have this problem when using braid or 4lb mono but happen a lot with nanofil.

 

[Hammer 4]

O.K..1 more ?..are you keeping tension on the line while you retrieve.? If not, try it, it may solve your problem. 

[kayaking_kev]

1 minute ago, Bass_Fishing_Socal said:

Because you reel in while line is slack. It happened to me as well not with all the line mostly stiffer line. I don’t have this problem when using braid or 4lb mono but happen a lot with nanofil.

 

I've never had it happen with braid either, but has happened to me with 4 lb mono.

2 minutes ago, Hammer 4 said:

O.K..1 more ?..are you keeping tension on the line while you retrieve.? If not, try it, it may solve your problem. 

It might be the problem. I have a whole list of things to try out now to see if I can resolve the issue.

I appreciate the help and quick responses from everyone, I will let you know how goes after my next trip.

[Adam.love05]

Braid to leader.. Problem solved! 

[JustJames]

Something like this, it usually happen when reel slack line after jerk/pop/jigging and rod at 1 or 12 o’clock . At first I thought it is a daiwa thing (have seen a few complained the same thing on Daiwa reel) but happen with shimano Sahara as well (4lb nanofil).

I don’t sweat it too much, it would clear out the next cast.

[kayaking_kev]

5 minutes ago, Bass_Fishing_Socal said:

Something like this, it usually happen when reel slack line and rod at 1 or 12 o’clock. At first I thought it is a daiwa thing (have seen a few complained the same thing on Daiwa reel) but happen with shimano Sahara as well (4lb nanofil).

I don’t sweat it too much, it would clear out the next cast.

Exactly! It bothers me sometimes though when it happens on a long cast and then I start making short casts. It's stuck like that until I hopefully make a just as long as cast as before. A few times I have tried to open the bail and let line out to fix it and reel it back in, but that led to a few wind knots.

14 minutes ago, Adam.love05 said:

Braid to leader.. Problem solved! 

That's what might end up happening, now that I don't have to contend with microwave guides.

[JustJames]

Don’t open the bail and pull line out on spinning reel if you don’t have no where to walk to keep tension on the line.
When this happened I usually just cast it out as far as I could and reel in with firm tension apply. It is a good practice for spinning user to once awhile clear the line to get out of line twisted.

[Tywithay]

Might need to remove a washer shim under the spool, if theres more than one. Daiwa abs spools should have a tapered line lay, not flat. That could result in line piling towards the bottom of the spool, rather than the top as it's supposed to.