Jig Rod? Expride A, Dobyns Champion?

[STBen1215]

1 minute ago, WRB said:

Be specific, what models. The op already said he can't afford the Adrena. Expride A doesn't make a MH in 6'10" It's rated as M+. To me Expride is slow to load up resulting in inaccurate casts.

Dobyns may adds handle butt weight to balance them, weight doesn't deaden the rod blank.

My ALX rods are 7 years old now custom made for me and everyone who has ever used them prefer it over NRX. Lighter weight (3.8 oz), perfect balance optimized guide locations and equal blank feel. I only suggested to look at the new Skipper because it's designed do exactly what the op wants, optimized tip for accurate casting and backbone to set jigs. Alex makes superb quality rods and has great customer service. 

Tom

Alx doesn't make a rod NRX level sensitive. No if, ands, or buts about it. We understand you like the rods but you are claiming with no validity behind your claims. I have fished both and I don't find this to be true whatsoever. I have fished every high-end, and I mean every high end rod (K2, Legend Xtreme, Destroyer, Xtasy, Steez AGS). While they are excellent and the NRX reigns supreme in the sensitivity department. Doesn't mean I like it the most but the NRX is more sensitive. 

[5by3]

Recently picked up the new 2020 enox lsb.  This rod is not even comparable to the older enox (which did not get good reviews). Very comfortable to fish and sensitivity is great. First impression was that it’s on par with my GLX. Still need more time with it though.

 

People rave about the Expride. I’m sure it’s a good rod too, but I’d rather put my money towards an American made rod.

[LegendaryBassin]

15 minutes ago, WRB said:

Be specific, what models. The op already said he can't afford the Adrena. Expride A makes a MH in 6'8". To me Expride is slow to load up resulting in inaccurate casts.

Dobyns may add handle butt weight to balance them, weight doesn't deaden the DC rod blank. Not sure the DC684C is good skipping rod?

My ALX rods are 7 years old now custom made for me and everyone who has ever used them prefer it over NRX. Lighter weight (3.8 oz), perfect balance optimized guide locations and equal blank feel. I only suggested to look at the new Skipper because it's designed do exactly what the op wants, optimized tip for accurate casting and backbone to set jigs. Alex makes superb quality rods and has great customer service. 

Tom

Not going to happen... sounds like you bumped your head lol

 

[WRB]

3 minutes ago, STBen1215 said:

Alx doesn't make a rod NRX level sensitive. No if, ands, or buts about it. We understand you like the rods but you are claiming with no validity behind your claims. I have fished both and I don't find this to be true whatsoever. I have fished every high-end, and I mean every high end rod (K2, Legend Xtreme, Destroyer, Xtasy, Steez AGS). While they are excellent and the NRX reigns supreme in the sensitivity department. Doesn't mean I like it the most but the NRX is more sensitive. 

You have no idea what you are talking about!

Tom

[5by3]

1 minute ago, LegendaryBassin said:

Not going to happen... sounds like you bumped your head lol

glx and nrx is still noticeable different in my hand. Nrx is more sensitive for sure.

I would agree. The NRX is still the standard for sensitivity. Would never pay the $550 price tag though.

[STBen1215]

2 minutes ago, WRB said:

You have no idea what you are talking about!

Tom

 

Just now, 5by3 said:

I would agree. The NRX is still the standard for sensitivity. Would never pay the $550 price tag though.

Sounds like 5by3 agrees as well as others. Nrx is the standard for a reason. Like it or not.

[FrogMann]

5 minutes ago, WRB said:

You have no idea what you are talking about!

Tom

I have to agree with the others. Nrx wins buddy. No need to get upset. Remain civil

[WRB]

34 minutes ago, FrogMann said:

I have to agree with the others. Nrx wins buddy. No need to get upset. Remain civil

ALX was and is custom rod builder that can make rods from any blank availble on the market. I didn't say ALX rods over the counter are equal to NRX, I said my custom rods are. I fished NRX rods, my partner owned every NRX casting and spinning model made and he preffered my rods because they are lighter weight and he could feel jigs better. The reason I didn't buy NRX when they came out was their BS $100 cert added to the price. Their cert program changed and will honor warranty if they determine it's a factory flaw otherwise it's still $100.

None of this has anything to do with the op's question. You all get your shorts wound up because I suggest looking at ALX Skipper rod and I stand by that suggestion.

Define rod Sensitivety there isn't a objective defination. Performance is the anglers ability to detect strikes, my record stands alone catching giant bass using jig and jig rods, that should qualify me to judge rods. None of you have or will ever fish my ALX rods, impossible to make your judgement.

Tom

 

 

[Jack Czerwinski]

44 minutes ago, FrogMann said:

I have to agree with the others. Nrx wins buddy. No need to get upset. Remain civil

In my few weeks of browsing this forum, I’ve noticed the one person consistently leaving a sour taste in my mouth is Tom. Seems to be his way or the highway. He’s thrown out some good advice on other threads so I won’t knock his knowledge or experience, but the best course of action may just be to disengage. 

[Efishin]

5 minutes ago, Jack Czerwinski said:

In my few weeks of browsing this forum, I’ve noticed the one person consistently leaving a sour taste in my mouth is Tom. Seems to be his way or the highway. He’s thrown out some good advice on other threads so I won’t knock his knowledge or experience, but the best course of action may just be to disengage. 

We are here to help eachother learn and enjoy fishing. Welcome to the forum and hopefully the forum has been a positive experience thusfar

[Cgrinder]

1 hour ago, willtomlinson said:

Have you found Shimanos in general, or the Exprides at least, to be true to their power rating? From what you've seen would you go with the 6'8"MH (3/8-1oz) or the 6'10"M (1/4-3/4oz) for what I'm looking for? Considering a M action rod for a jig rod seems crazy lol, but that's a strong rated medium

I would go MH, if not H. I used the heavy Zodias and then Expride for 1/2 oz jigs and I've been happy with both. Half ounce jigs can have pretty beefy hooks.

 

ALSO

 

God bless it guys. This is why we can't have nice things.

[Efishin]

1 minute ago, Cgrinder said:

I would go MH, if not H. I used the heavy Zodias and then Expride for 1/2 oz jigs and I've been happy with both. Half ounce jigs can have pretty beefy hooks. 

Definitely! 

[NorthernBasser]

6 hours ago, WRB said:

Dobyns rods you can talk to Gary, ALX rods you can talk to Alex and questions them about their rods. Who owns Shimano that you can talk to?

Tom

Shimano speaks for itself. 

[jbsoonerfan]

2 hours ago, WRB said:

ALX was and is custom rod builder that can make rods from any blank availble on the market. I didn't say ALX rods over the counter are equal to NRX, I said my custom rods are. I fished NRX rods, my partner owned every NRX casting and spinning model made and he preffered my rods because they are lighter weight and he could feel jigs better. The reason I didn't buy NRX when they came out was their BS $100 cert added to the price. Their cert program changed and will honor warranty if they determine it's a factory flaw otherwise it's still $100.

None of this has anything to do with the op's question. You all get your shorts wound up because I suggest looking at ALX Skipper rod and I stand by that suggestion.

Define rod Sensitivety there isn't a objective defination. Performance is the anglers ability to detect strikes, my record stands alone catching giant bass using jig and jig rods, that should qualify me to judge rods. None of you have or will ever fish my ALX rods, impossible to make your judgement.

Tom

 

 

Have you caught anything since the 70's? I NEVER see you post any pics of your recent catches. All you do is talk down to people like you are God's gift to fishing. It's been old for a long time and getting worse. I guess I should just be like most the guys that have been here a while and put you on my ignore list, probably make my time here more enjoyable (and longer).

[WRB]

19 minutes ago, jbsoonerfan said:

Have you caught anything since the 70's? I NEVER see you post any pics of your recent catches. All you do is talk down to people like you are God's gift to fishing. It's been old for a long time and getting worse. I guess I should just be like most the guys that have been here a while and put you on my ignore list, probably make my time here more enjoyable (and longer).

My 19.3 was caught in 1993, my last bass over 15 lbs was in 2012 at 15.4 lbs. unfortunitly State of California stopping hatchary trout plants coupled with gaugga mussel rules of not replenishing crawdad where I fish killed the big bass populations.

I catch lots of 8 lb to 9 lb bass every year, no DD's since the 2012 bass and was a swimbait fish, not a jig fish. I haven't fished this year or most of last year, lost my desire when my son passed away from cancer.

Tom

[Efishin]

4 minutes ago, WRB said:

 lost my desire when my son passed away from cancer.

Tom

Sorry to hear that buddy. Get it out and fish for him and know that he would want you happy. Get out there and catch them up in his honor

[jbsoonerfan]

11 minutes ago, WRB said:

My 19.3 was caught in 1993, my last bass over 15 lbs was in 2012 at 15.4 lbs. unfortunitly State of California stopping hatchary trout plants coupled with gaugga mussel rules of not replenishing crawdad where I fish killed the big bass populations.

I catch lots of 8 lb to 9 lb bass every year, no DD's since the 2012 bass and was a swimbait fish, not a jig fish. I haven't fished this year or most of last year, lost my desire when my son passed away from cancer.

Tom

Hate to hear it, maybe fishing might do you some good. 

[WRB]

4 hours ago, Jack Czerwinski said:

In my few weeks of browsing this forum, I’ve noticed the one person consistently leaving a sour taste in my mouth is Tom. Seems to be his way or the highway. He’s thrown out some good advice on other threads so I won’t knock his knowledge or experience, but the best course of action may just be to disengage. 

Last I looked this is a free forum, read what you enjoy and pass up what you don't agree with. All I can do is share my experiences, how you or anyone else precieved what I suggest is up to the individual to take what works and pass on what doesn't. BR has been a good communty for decades welcoming all view points, including mine. If you, or anyone else has a bone to pick do it man to man, no reason to disengage. My patients is wearing thin debating issues with anglers who haven't earned their stripes, sit back at take cheap shots. Your avatar says all I need know.

Tom

[fishindad]

8 hours ago, WRB said:

Last I looked this is a free forum, read what you enjoy and pass up what you don't agree with. All I can do is share my experiences, how you or anyone else precieved what I suggest is up to the individual to take what works and pass on what doesn't. BR has been a good communty for decades welcoming all view points, including mine. If you, or anyone else has a bone to pick do it man to man, no reason to disengage. My patients is wearing thin debating issues with anglers who haven't earned their stripes, sit back at take cheap shots. Your avatar says all I need know.

Tom

Tom, you sometimes give good advice based on your experience fishing SoCal waters. In this instance, it is evident that you are an ALX fanboy and there's nothing wrong with that, everyone does it from time to time when they find a good product.

 

But, if what you have written is truly what your outlook is on other anglers, you will have lost total respect. Are you saying you judge others by their avatar??? Really??? Just sad. I get that you've caught a big rainbow-fed Florida strain transplant largemouth 27 years ago, when Catsaic was at it's peak. That's the era when Dan Kadota and Bob Crupi put that place on the map. That doesn't mean you're a good angler.

 

And, you write "anglers who haven't earned their stripes", as if you have??? How many lakes across the US have you fished? How are you at catching smallies on the Great Lakes? Spotted bass down South? Punching bass in LA? How many competitive bass tournaments have you won? Are you saying that just because you've caught a few big SoCal bass, you've "earned their stripes"??? So, all the FLW and Elite guys who haven't caught double digit bass CA haven't earned their stripes??? I hate to jump on this bashing wagon but if what you wrote is in fact how you judge other anglers (and God forbid other people) then I suggest you take a deep breath, and accept that you may be wrong.

 

If you let 10,000 anglers fish an NRX alongside an ALX (or any similar-priced rod), 9,999 will say without a doubt the NRX is the more sensitive rod. For twice the cost it better be!

[Glenn]

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