Shimano bass one xt 162ml + SLX MGL

[GGzet]

Hello from Japan! Recently i hooked up by fishing, especially sea and black bass and found this great forum!

Due to my lack of experience i would like to ask advice on the setup what i am planning now.

Few weeks ago i started from a cheap spinning fishing set what i bought at the local fishing shop:

- Noname fishing rod with a numbers - SP163L
- Daiwa 10$ spinning reel 

 

By the advice from shop worker i started straight from crankbaits and felt in love with it. (Bought around 10 different Daiwa peanuts 2 crank's for one week).

From today i am sure in my hobby and would like to have a solid update on my rod and reel. 

After a lot of reading, i came up to this items:

-  Shimano Bass One XT 162ML - rod, 1.88m (~6"2'), 5g to 15g bait weight and Regular action: http://fish.shimano.com.sg/content/fish/asia/sg/en/homepage/ProductPage.P-BASSONEXTROD.html

-  Shimano 2019 SLX MGL - 6.3:1 ratio

-  Nylon Line Silver Thread SAR 300m Aqua Green - 8lb

 

I am fishing exclusivly at rivers and planning to try a lakes in future. Sea bass / Black bass lives at the downstrea/upstread of the same river. 

My idea behind this setup is a multipurpose single rod/reel for different situation - shallow and fast mountain rivers, mixed depth (from super shallow to 20'+) urban rivers, from the bank. All my cranks are from 1/4oz to 1/2oz, super shallow, shallow and deep types (0cm to 2.5max).

 

How do you think is it solid enough for the beginning and, what is mostly important for me, enough flexible for different river types?

Thank you~

 

 

 

Edited April 30, 2020 by GGzet

[kayaking_kev]

I have no experience with that rod, but I have the SLX MGL 70 6.3.1 and I like it a lot. The reel should be able to handle what you want it for without any problems and fit plenty of 8lb line, which is what I have on mine, paired with a Dobyns Champion 704cb Glass for the same weights as you want to throw. 

[GGzet]

50 minutes ago, kayaking_kev said:

I have no experience with that rod, but I have the SLX MGL 70 6.3.1 and I like it a lot. The reel should be able to handle what you want it for without any problems and fit plenty of 8lb line, which is what I have on mine, paired with a Dobyns Champion 704cb Glass for the same weights as you want to throw. 

Thanks a lot! As far as i could understand this rod (Shimano) is kind of local product, costs ~70$ now. 
A lot of people use different lenth (mostly it's 7'+?) and pefer different type - ML, M, MH and etc., what makes hard to find a kind of golden middle ^^'

Edited April 30, 2020 by GGzet

[kayaking_kev]

16 minutes ago, GGzet said:

Thanks a lot! As far as i could understand this rod (Shimano) is kind of local product, costs ~70$ now. 
A lot of people use different lenth (mostly it's 7'+?) and pefer different type - ML, M, MH and etc.

I'm sure it's decent if it's a Shimano, I've had a $15 Shimano rod before and it was pretty good for the money. Shorter rods will cast more accurately, but generally won't cast as far as longer rods. It just depends on the types of rivers you fish. I kayak fish a lot of small rivers sometimes and I use a 6'3 Dobyns Champion crankbait rod for that, because accuracy is more important than distance. Last year, I used a 6'0 rod for cranking on small rivers and loved it. I use the 7'0 from the bank to get more distance. 

 

That Shimano ML is rated up to 1/2 oz or 15g, so you could probably throw your 1/2 lures on it, because Shimanos are usually true to their ratings, but I wouldn't throw 1/2 on it all day, everyday. A Medium might work out a little better and still throw those 1/4 oz lures and probably balance with the reel a little better.

[GGzet]

22 minutes ago, kayaking_kev said:

I'm sure it's decent if it's a Shimano, I've had a $15 Shimano rod before and it was pretty good for the money. Shorter rods will cast more accurately, but generally won't cast as far as longer rods. It just depends on the types of rivers you fish. I kayak fish a lot of small rivers sometimes and I use a 6'3 Dobyns Champion crankbait rod for that, because accuracy is more important than distance. Last year, I used a 6'0 rod for cranking on small rivers and loved it. I use the 7'0 from the bank to get more distance. 

 

That Shimano ML is rated up to 1/2 oz or 15g, so you could probably throw your 1/2 lures on it, because Shimanos are usually true to their ratings, but I wouldn't throw 1/2 on it all day, everyday. A Medium might work out a little better and still throw those 1/4 oz lures and probably balance with the reel a little better.

Appreciate your help! To be honest mostly i have 10g cranks, and 12g is single and heaviest one.
Will think about M type right now, thank you. Without never trying it by yourself, it's hard to choose on the right one.  

At the beginning i chose 162ML only because official Shimano site and catalog says it's the only one rod from the series what mostly suitable for crankbaits (only the one red circle under crankbaits):
http://fishing.shimano.co.jp/product/rod/5293
But at the same time it's not great for the vibration lipless one, maybe because they are mostly heavy and M+ rod is necessary.

Edited April 30, 2020 by GGzet

[kayaking_kev]

2 hours ago, GGzet said:

Appreciate your help! To be honest mostly i have 10g cranks, and 12g is single and heaviest one.
Will think about M type right now, thank you. Without never trying it by yourself, it's hard to choose on the right one.  

At the beginning i chose 162ML only because official Shimano site and catalog says it's the only one rod from the series what mostly suitable for crankbaits (only the one red circle under crankbaits):
http://fishing.shimano.co.jp/product/rod/5293
But at the same time it's not great for the vibration lipless one, maybe because they are mostly heavy and M+ rod is necessary.

No problem, I enjoy talking fishing, it helps me learn as well.

 

Are you dead set on that rod or Shimano in general? I was going to ask if the Tatula XT cranking rods are available in your area. I know sportsman outfitters have a 7'0 Medium on sale for $80, not sure if they ship to Japan though.

https://www.sportsmansoutfitters.com/products/daiwa-tatula-xt-rod

 

And, I'm not sure how much you are paying for the SLX MGL, but I got mine from Japan for a  good price from here.

https://fishing.asian-portal.shop/category/select/cid/352/bid/49/pinfo/10000-to-19999/pid/295258

 

Maybe it will save you some money to spend on another rod.