Bubba and Sissy

[Mobasser]

While waiting in line in a tackle shop years ago, I saw a guy get snickered at for buying a spinning rod. He was " Sissy" , who preferred lighter tackle. " Bubba" we're the guys who liked heavy tackle only. I havnt heard these terms for a while now. Thanks to the information we have available to us now, we've come to realize that both methods can work well, and both styles have they're time and place. Bubba and Sissy, you guys are done! You never really served any purpose to us anyway, except to cause division and arguments between bass fisherman. It's past time you quit hanging around tackle shops, boat ramps, internet fishing sites, or anywhere else bass fisherman congregate to talk about the sport. Go find something else to do, and leave us alone. We're all gonna fish how we fish, and could care less about all that nonsense talk. Personally, I'm sure glad they're gone too...

[PhishLI]

I love my fairy wand.

[garroyo130]

15 minutes ago, Mobasser said:

It's past time you quit hanging around tackle shops, boat ramps, internet fishing sites, or anywhere else bass fisherman congregate to talk about the sport. 

Not all talk is like that. In fact, talking to people face to face can be one of the most beneficial things and I'd wager to say I've met more people who are passionate about the sport, open-minded, and willing to share information than what you describe. 

 

While the internet has lots of information, it can be overwhelming even for more seasoned anglers ... I can only imagine for someone just beginning. 

 

I know personally had it not been for old man Walter at the lake I first fished, I likely would have stopped fishing altogether. He taught me many of the basics and most importantly helped get some fish on the end of my line which motivated me to keep learning. 

[Backroad Angler]

In my neck of the woods, anglers share their knowledge with others and so to speak, trade information and new tactics. I've never seen someone hassle someone for trying a certain type of outfit or using a bait wrong, people are pretty helpful and understanding from what I've seen. I know theirs probably someone out there that probably isn't as kind though.

[Mobasser]

1 minute ago, JoshFromBolo said:

In my neck of the woods, anglers share their knowledge with others and so to speak, trade information and new tactics. I've never seen someone hassle someone for trying a certain type of outfit or using a bait wrong, people are pretty helpful and understanding from what I've seen. I know theirs probably someone out there that probably isn't as kind though.

These were terms that have been used over the years. I agree, it's always good to help others learn things, but not in a derogatory way

[Tennessee Boy]

I fish both and can't imagine giving up either one.  I guess I'm a Bubbasissy.  

[Fishes in trees]

I've been in tackle shops, marina restaurants, docks, pre-tournament meetings and heard some good natured ribbing about bait casting versus spinning gear - from both sides.  I've never seen the conversation get mean and ugly, abusive.

 

But then, I'm the guy who took a 6'6" ML bait casting rodeo a tournament with 8 lb line so that I could throw light poppers farther.   Same tournament, I'm the guy who had 2 7' spinning rigs.   One to throw Carolina rigs ( just cause I think that Carolina rigs are more sensitive on heavy duty spinning gear compared to similar bait casting gear,  plus they are somewhat more easier for me to cast and get the distance I want out of a Carolina rig )  and the other to throw 3/8 oz finesse jigs, both to objects and dragging them down 45 degree banks, just cause I thought there was a good chance that I was going to get back boated and the spinning rod gave me the distance casting capability to offset that.

 

I'm not married to either side, I just like to try to use the right tool for the job, and sometimes I think outside the box.

 

That being the case, at the moment that bubba and sissy were discussing things, if there would have been anything I could have said to escalate the argument and increase my own amusement, most likely I would have said it.

 

[Hook2Jaw]

Sometimes I put down my 7'6" heavy and pick up my 7' medium spinning outfit.  My sissy wrist loves me for it.  My bubba hookset does not.

[Big-Bass]

I usually carry a few Bubbas and a few Sissys every time I fish!

[Mobasser]

17 minutes ago, Tennessee Boy said:

I fish both and can't imagine giving up either one.  I guess I'm a Bubbasissy.  

I'm probably a Buubasissy too! But, I like it that way.

[Vilas15]

I thought baitcasters were only for musky until I started poking around this place. Things are different in walleye country.

[Mike L]

I’ve been called many things but never Bubba!

I guess I’ll have to wear it proudly 

 

 

 

Mike

[Steveo-1969]

24 minutes ago, Vilas15 said:

I thought baitcasters were only for musky until I started poking around this place. Things are different in walleye country.

Truer words were never spoken! I grew up in Wisconsin and didn't own or know ANYONE that had a baitcaster. You started with a small spincast rod when you were little then graduated to a spinning rod when you got older and could handle it.

[Tywithay]

I guess people around here are different. We just use whatever catches fish. I have baitcasters with 6lb test on a light rod and spinning reels with 80lb braid on a 9ft heavy rod...who knows

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

I never understood the animosity within groups. The Chevy guys hate the Toyota guys, the dirt bike guys don’t like the 4 wheelers, fly guys don’t like bait guys, recurve guys don’t like compounds... I could go on forever just on what I’ve seen and heard. We should concentrate on what we have in common instead of differences and work together toward common goals. Good natured ribbing is another story. I take it and certainly dish it out. Lol

[jimmyjoe]

   I feel pretty good when I can give someone some advice that helps them, whether it be fishing advice or gardening advice or HVAC/R advice. 

   What's sad is to find someone who can't build another person up, but has to tear some one else down in order to feel better.

   Many times these kind of people hang around in groups, reinforcing each other's attitudes. If one of them spots someone with a spinning outfit, he'll say, "Usin' a fairy wand, huh?". The next one in line will say, "Yeah. Wassa matter, don't know how to use a real fishin' outfit?". The third one will say, "If you don't use a baitcaster, you don't know how to fish."

   And so it goes.

   It doesn't really have anything to do with fishing. Absolutely nothing at all. I've seen this behavior in pool halls, on Little League diamonds, on car lots and on college campuses. It has its source in insecurity. I think it's an emotional disease, myself, similar to bullying.  I have no idea what the solution is, but I suspect that those people treat others that way because they themselves were treated that way.

   Which says something about the parents, I guess.     jj

[greentrout]

 

[JediAmoeba]

I hate the fairy wands and go to great lengths not to use them...more often than not they just tick me off. But sometimes, there just isn't a better option.  

[MN Fisher]

1 hour ago, jimmyjoe said:

   I feel pretty good when I can give someone some advice that helps them, whether it be fishing advice or gardening advice or HVAC/R advice. 

   What's sad is to find someone who can't build another person up, but has to tear some one else down in order to feel better.

   Many times these kind of people hang around in groups, reinforcing each other's attitudes. If one of them spots someone with a spinning outfit, he'll say, "Usin' a fairy wand, huh?". The next one in line will say, "Yeah. Wassa matter, don't know how to use a real fishin' outfit?". The third one will say, "If you don't use a baitcaster, you don't know how to fish."

   And so it goes.

   It doesn't really have anything to do with fishing. Absolutely nothing at all. I've seen this behavior in pool halls, on Little League diamonds, on car lots and on college campuses. It has its source in insecurity. I think it's an emotional disease, myself, similar to bullying.  I have no idea what the solution is, but I suspect that those people treat others that way because they themselves were treated that way.

   Which says something about the parents, I guess.     jj

Every time I see the term 'fairy wand', I cringe. It's just another form of cut-down to me...like my using spinning rigs is somehow bad and wrong.

 

Far as my gear - 10 rigs - 5 of them spinning.

[Mobasser]

1 minute ago, MN Fisher said:

Every time I see the term 'fairy wand', I cringe. It's just another form of cut-down to me...like my using spinning rigs is somehow bad and wrong.

 

Far as my gear - 10 rigs - 5 of them spinning.

Yes. "Fairy Wand" is another term that gets thrown around. It's not a fairy wand, it's a spinning outfit.

Also, a spinning outfit doesn't have to be a fairy wand. Get a fast action med/ivy with good line, and a reel with a good smooth drag. Lots of big fish are caught with an outfit like this

[PhishLI]

3 hours ago, jimmyjoe said:

Many times these kind of people hang around in groups, reinforcing each other's attitudes. If one of them spots someone with a spinning outfit, he'll say, "Usin' a fairy wand, huh?". The next one in line will say, "Yeah. Wassa matter, don't know how to use a real fishin' outfit?". The third one will say, "If you don't use a baitcaster, you don't know how to fish."

I'm sure this happens occasionally because some people are morons. Probably more of a dumb jock thing. That said I haven't come across but one guy that's even remotely interested in discussing the particulars of gear. He's a young kid who's really into bass fishing and is also former student of my son in law. He likes to quote specs of my latest gear, because he reads up, and he likes to talk about the latest baits. Aside from him absolutely nobody that I've met seems to care about talking about gear, or ever come close to running down anyone else for using spinning gear or a "lesser" brand of anything. Maybe it's more of a keyboard warrior type of thing? Most of of my fishing buddies use baitcasters primarily, but they all have and use pretty expensive spinning rigs too. There's no razzing about it whatsoever. Never.

 

It's still funny to call a "spinning outfit" a fairy wand for effect. Sort of like saying "fart". It's just funny cause it just is.

[Tywithay]

2 hours ago, MN Fisher said:

Every time I see the term 'fairy wand', I cringe. It's just another form of cut-down to me...like my using spinning rigs is somehow bad and wrong.

 

Far as my gear - 10 rigs - 5 of them spinning.

Agreed. I've seen a Stella 18000 put a whooping on some giant gamefish. Fish that would bend your little baitcaster over and spank you with it.

[detroit1]

I first heard the term "fairy wand" came from bassmaster magazines' Harry & Charlie comic. I see saltwater folks catching 80# fish all the time...

[jimmyjoe]

11 minutes ago, PhishLI said:

I'm sure this happens occasionally because some people are morons. Probably more of a dumb jock thing.

 

   Calling someone a "moron" or "dumb jock" is just part and parcel of the same attitude. Intelligence or lack thereof is NOT the dividing line between peoples in the human race.

   If you fell down in the mud, and a person that you considered very low in intelligence helped you get up, would you still call them a moron?  I hope not.

   And if someone that you considered to be very intelligent used that intelligence to hurt people and kill people, would you still put them on a higher level than "less intelligent" people who didn't do that?

 

   The dividing line in the human race isn't "smart" versus "dumb". It's "kind" versus "vicious". Innate intelligence has nothing ... and I mean absolutely nothing .... to do with it. 

   A person's makeup and motivation become clear by their actions.        jj

[PhishLI]

3 minutes ago, jimmyjoe said:

 

   Calling someone a "moron" or "dumb jock" is just part and parcel of the same attitude

Don't be silly. I'm not using moron in the clinical sense. I believe you're well aware of that. I was a jock, and I know how the dumb ones, the morons, or the smart ones, can behave especially in a group. Bullies. I was tough enough to stand in between them and the weak plenty of times. And yes, if an intelligent jock was cruel I'd consider him a moron too. I could probably parse my words to your liking, but I'm a moron myself.