Pkfish49 Posted April 27, 2020 Posted April 27, 2020 For Bass fishing, as well as general Panfish targeting, I use an improved clinch knot (5-6 turns) with 10 lb mono to tie a barrel snap swivel on. This greatly speeds up lure changes, or changes from lures to hooks or vice versa. Part of my eyesight is getting worse, and it is a pain to tie knots with fishing line. I also love the system, as on cold, rainy days, it is even harder to get my hands working to tie knots. The last couple of groups of serious Bass fisherman that I ran into, told me that they tie on directly. What are the advantages to tying on directly, and the disadvantages to my barrel swivel setup? Quote
Super User Bird Posted April 27, 2020 Super User Posted April 27, 2020 Barrel swivels effect the the weight of sensitive baits like suspending Jerkbaits and speak volumes..... saying " I don't have enough rods. Lol I use the little ones from buzzbaits to spinnerbaits. Have fun and don't worry what the consensus say. 2 Quote
NJBasstard Posted April 27, 2020 Posted April 27, 2020 I mostly tie direct but I'll sometimes use regular snaps without swivels when I'm switching between treble hook baits a lot like cranks and jerkbaits. I did notice when clipped to the split ring that the baits action changes some. Wether that's good or bad is up to the fish to decide. Personally if I used clips full time I'd probably remove the split rings and clip direct to the lure. I've done this and feel the action is the same, or atleast much closer, to what they'd normally be tied direct. Honestly if whatever your doing works for you than I wouldn't worry too much about what others say. 2 Quote
JediAmoeba Posted April 27, 2020 Posted April 27, 2020 I use small snaps on jerkbaits and remove the split rings. This doesn't affect the action of the bait and it allows me to change baits and easily retie all the time... On almost all other baits I tie direct. A snap is ok to use for most moving baits but using a swivel with the snap really adds a lot of weight and changes the action drastically. Look into some smaller snaps and forgo the swivels. 2 Quote
Super User JustJames Posted April 27, 2020 Super User Posted April 27, 2020 Same as two above mentioned. If crappie bite your lure why not bass. The two already give you a very good suggestions there about suspended jerkbait and snap no swivel. “The disadvantages of snap” yes there are but not so much with moving bait type. The snap add bulky look to you lure (snap to hook) and easier to get snagged with weed on rock. Should appropriate size of snap/clip (no swivel). I have used snap with success on both bass and crappie. 1 Quote
Super User jimmyjoe Posted April 27, 2020 Super User Posted April 27, 2020 If and when I think that there's a disadvantage to a ball bearing duolock snap setup, I'll cut off about 18" of line, and tie on a ball bearing swivel (no snap). then I'll put line on like it was a leader, and tie a snap on the end. I like VMC crankbait snaps (I've stashed some small ones). This gives me the best of all worlds ..... except that I can't let that bb swivel hit my tiptop or it'll crack the insert eventually. This works great for lures that helicopter as well as lures that spin. And if I put on a suspending twitchbait, it doesn't destroy the balance of the lure. Have fun fishing! jj 1 Quote
Pkfish49 Posted April 27, 2020 Author Posted April 27, 2020 Thanks for all the replies. I'm going Fishing on Next Saturday. Not primarily targeting Bass, but keep your eyes out for lots of pictures in the "other fish species" - Other species latest catch thread. May not post until after the trip, around a week later. 1 Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted April 27, 2020 Global Moderator Posted April 27, 2020 Snaps are fine. No reason to use a snap swivel unless you're fishing a lure that causes a lot of line twist though. Quote
Pkfish49 Posted April 27, 2020 Author Posted April 27, 2020 To make sure I'm using the correct terminology, here is the setup. I have different sizes of these, but currently hooked up my rods with the size pictured. I did go ahead and cut off the tag end after I took the picture. Quote
Super User Scott F Posted April 27, 2020 Super User Posted April 27, 2020 20 minutes ago, Pkfish49 said: To make sure I'm using the correct terminology, here is the setup. I have different sizes of these, but currently hooked up my rods with the size pictured. I did go ahead and cut off the tag end after I took the picture. If you really feel the need to use a snap and swivel, do yourself a favor and purchase some of better quality. The snap in the photo is very weak. It doesn’t take much force to open the snap and lose a good fish and your lure. Cheap swivels are also prone to not working, besides not providing any benefit. 1 Quote
Super User JustJames Posted April 27, 2020 Super User Posted April 27, 2020 This is snap I use for crappie mostly size #00, bass size #2. 1 Quote
Super User PhishLI Posted April 28, 2020 Super User Posted April 28, 2020 Try these in size 1. Rated to 66 lbs. https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/VMC_Touch-Lok_Snap/descpage-VMCTLS.html 1 Quote
Pkfish49 Posted April 28, 2020 Author Posted April 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Scott F said: If you really feel the need to use a snap and swivel, do yourself a favor and purchase some of better quality. The snap in the photo is very weak. It doesn’t take much force to open the snap and lose a good fish and your lure. Cheap swivels are also prone to not working, besides not providing any benefit. Ty, I've lost some of these snaps (and the lure and the fish :)) due to big fighting runs, (most likely Smallmouth Bass) but not too many. What brand do you recommend? Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted April 28, 2020 Global Moderator Posted April 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Pkfish49 said: Ty, I've lost some of these snaps (and the lure and the fish :)) due to big fighting runs, (most likely Smallmouth Bass) but not too many. What brand do you recommend? Something with a crosslock style snap so it's more difficult for the snap to be pulled open. Quote
Super User WRB Posted April 28, 2020 Super User Posted April 28, 2020 We like to think bass are difficult to catch and snap swivels are taboo to our culture. While I personally don't use the snap swivel because it looks bulky and affects what is conceived as the lures appearance it may not in fact deter bass from striking a given lure. Consider bass often strike a double bladed spinner bait, would a snap swivel affect the strike? No, if snap swivel didn't alter the lures performance as bass doesn't see it. So when does a snap swivel impact a lures action that turns off a bass strike? we use FC line for a fish that isn't line shy...why? Becuase we think it helps. Tom 4 Quote
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