Super User Sam Posted April 17, 2020 Super User Posted April 17, 2020 The NCAA is debating over having a football season without fans in the stands. They have reached out to Tulane for advice. Just telling it as it is. Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted April 17, 2020 Global Moderator Posted April 17, 2020 That just sounds silly, Sam 3 Quote
greentrout Posted April 17, 2020 Posted April 17, 2020 it's a makeshift option to see some football and keep some money coming in... college football is a big business ... in reality lost its amateur status a long time ago ... Quote
lo n slo Posted April 17, 2020 Posted April 17, 2020 not to sound insensitive but all this pandemic mode stuff is beginning to get old. 2 2 Quote
Super User Tennessee Boy Posted April 17, 2020 Super User Posted April 17, 2020 I can live without restaurants, and toilet paper. College football is a different matter. 1 1 Quote
GReb Posted April 17, 2020 Posted April 17, 2020 The majority of athletic departments are going to be in a bad situation financially if a “normal” football season is not played. 75% of revenue or more comes from ticket sales and concessions. Without that revenue smaller sports such as softball, track, soccer, etc will not have the funding to operate Quote
Super User Chris at Tech Posted April 17, 2020 Super User Posted April 17, 2020 44 minutes ago, GReb said: The majority of athletic departments are going to be in a bad situation financially if a “normal” football season is not played. 75% of revenue or more comes from ticket sales and concessions. Without that revenue smaller sports such as softball, track, soccer, etc will not have the funding to operate That's certainly a very unfortunate result of this pandemic, but I think college sports has needed a "market correction" for a long time. Maybe that could be a small silver lining to this thing. 1 Quote
Super User Sam Posted April 18, 2020 Author Super User Posted April 18, 2020 7 hours ago, TnRiver46 said: That just sounds silly, Sam Not if you are an LSU fan. Quote
Super User Teal Posted April 18, 2020 Super User Posted April 18, 2020 Well I'm a tar heel fan through and through... with out or without fans there we will find a way to disappoint come football season. 1 Quote
Super User Sam Posted April 18, 2020 Author Super User Posted April 18, 2020 Just now, Teal said: Well I'm a tar heel fan through and through... with out or without fans there we will find a way to disappoint come football season. Not so fast. Mack Brown is back in the saddle and he can work wonders. Just give him the players and hold on. 1 Quote
Global Moderator 12poundbass Posted April 18, 2020 Global Moderator Posted April 18, 2020 With the ridiculous price of college these days, college football should only be a bonus not a necessity for a college to survive. If it’s a necessity then something is bass ackwards and things need to be re-evaluated. Obviously I know what I’m saying is bass ackwards. ? or is it ?? Quote
Super User Sam Posted April 18, 2020 Author Super User Posted April 18, 2020 On 4/17/2020 at 10:56 PM, 12poundbass said: With the ridiculous price of college these days, college football should only be a bonus not a necessity for a college to survive. If it’s a necessity then something is bass ackwards and things need to be re-evaluated. Obviously I know what I’m saying is bass ackwards. ? or is it ?? 12, nope, you are right on. Colleges' first priority is education. That should top everything else. But then comes the money. With each SEC school averaging $43 million in revenues from all sources each year, and that includes Vandy, Missouri and others who do not make it on TV as much as the other schools, it is difficult for a university to pass up all that income. Football funds the non-revenue sports; gives money back to the school for building projects and other expenses; and generates many millions of dollars via each university's merchandise sales, alumni associations and athletic foundations. Once upon a time Joe Dean, a past LSU athletic director, told me that LSU cleared at least $7,000,000 per game in Tiger Stadium after paying the visiting team and other expenses. This amount does not include TV and Radio revenues paid at the end of the season nor its share of the media money from the SEC. Even though you will hear that college presidents want to put education first, the accountants are telling them in the back rooms that they need the football revenue, if not from fans in the stadium then via media money. As for Toolame, they have a nice 30,000 seat stadium on campus that averages around 15,000 a game. It is like going to a football game at Richmond, Delaware, North Dakota, Maine, William & Mary, and other schools one level down. And this is why Toolame and LSU do not play each other anymore. It is not because Toolame does not like to get crushed. It is that Toolame wants to play the game in the Super Dome as the home team and walk away with the bulk of the revenue while LSU says it will travel 90-miles southeast to play in New Orleans but LSU has to be the home team. Neither school will change their position so no games. Stay tuned. Let's see if education or money wins out. Quote
lo n slo Posted April 18, 2020 Posted April 18, 2020 if a man can put on a mask and go to the store, he can put one on and go to the game. 1 Quote
Super User Sam Posted April 18, 2020 Author Super User Posted April 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, lo n slo said: if a man can put on a mask and go to the store, he can put one on and go to the game. Yes, but you have to understand that although college football stadiums can hold over 100,000 there is another 100,000 outside the stadium walking around, riding bikes, having tailgates, and just enjoying the atmosphere of game day. This is why I quit going to the LSU games. Way too many people that makes it difficult to walk around the campus. Easier and cheaper to stay home and watch the game on TV. Quote
Super User Chris at Tech Posted April 18, 2020 Super User Posted April 18, 2020 18 hours ago, 12poundbass said: With the ridiculous price of college these days, college football should only be a bonus not a necessity for a college to survive. If it’s a necessity then something is bass ackwards and things need to be re-evaluated. Obviously I know what I’m saying is bass ackwards. ? or is it ?? College athletic associations are generally separate entities from the colleges themselves these days. Up until this point, I've not seen indications that any issues on the athletic side are endangering the academic institutions themselves. Quote
Super User N Florida Mike Posted April 19, 2020 Super User Posted April 19, 2020 17 hours ago, lo n slo said: if a man can put on a mask and go to the store, he can put one on and go to the game. Or not put one on and go... 1 Quote
Super User Sam Posted April 19, 2020 Author Super User Posted April 19, 2020 12, nope, you are right on. Colleges' first priority is education. That should top everything else. But then comes the money. With each SEC school averaging $43 million in revenues from all sources each year, and that includes Vandy, Missouri and others who do not make it on TV as much as the other schools, it is difficult for a university to pass up all that income. Football funds the non-revenue sports; gives money back to the school for building projects and other expenses; and generates many millions of dollars via each university's merchandise sales, alumni associations and athletic foundations. Once upon a time Joe Dean, a past LSU athletic director, told me that LSU cleared at least $7,000,000 per game in Tiger Stadium after paying the visiting team and other expenses. This amount does not include TV and Radio revenues paid at the end of the season nor its share of the media money from the SEC. Even though you will hear that college presidents want to put education first, the accountants are telling them in the back rooms that they need the football revenue, if not from fans in the stadium then via media money. As for Toolame, they have a nice 30,000 seat stadium on campus that averages around 15,000 a game. It is like going to a football game at Richmond, Delaware, North Dakota, Maine, William & Mary, and other schools one level down. And this is why Toolame and LSU do not play each other anymore. It is not because Toolame does not like to get crushed. It is that Toolame wants to play the game in the Super Dome as the home team and walk away with the bulk of the revenue while LSU says it will travel 90-miles southeast to play in New Orleans but LSU has to be the home team. Neither school will change their position so no games. Stay tuned. Let's see if education or money wins out. Quote
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