skekoam Posted April 16, 2020 Posted April 16, 2020 So i've been experimenting with knots that are fairly simple to tie. Something my son can learn. I was hoping to get votes on which you guys think is the best: 1. slip knot 2. palomar knot 3. uni knot Trust be told, I've had a few slip knots fail but it is also what I've used them most when I started out fishing. Palomar is very simple, but haven't tried it yet on the waters. The uni knot looks very durable as well, but again I haven't tried it yet while fishing. Thanks Quote
Super User Hammer 4 Posted April 16, 2020 Super User Posted April 16, 2020 If your tying fluro, I'd vote for the uni knot, very easy to tie. The palomar would be next, as long as you tie it correctly. I should say, that I prefer the San Diego Jam knot, except for drop shoting. Quote
garroyo130 Posted April 16, 2020 Posted April 16, 2020 Improved clinch knot doubled through the eye is what i first learned to tie. Easy to tie and strong enough. Quote
Russ E Posted April 16, 2020 Posted April 16, 2020 Palomar knot is best for braid. I don't use the uni or slip knot. I use a san diego jam knot for fluoro and mono Quote
Super User WRB Posted April 17, 2020 Super User Posted April 17, 2020 Don't use a slip knot. The easiest fishing knot for a kid to tie is whatever you teach them 1st. All around knot would be a improved clinch knot. After putting the tag end through the eye can twist the lure or hook 5 times, tag end through the loop next to the eye and back up through the loop at the top. Wet and pull tight. Palomar knot for hooks and clips. Tag end through the eye then back through to make a large loop, overhand tie the loop, put the hook or clip through the loop, wet and pull the tag end tight. If I can write the instructions it's a simple knot. Tom 1 Quote
Super User JustJames Posted April 17, 2020 Super User Posted April 17, 2020 Uni knot, never goes wrong easy and fast, doesn’t waster a lot of line, work well for both mono, FC and braid. Also same knot can be use to connect main line or leader. 2 Quote
basser27 Posted April 17, 2020 Posted April 17, 2020 Palomar for braid to hook/lure and improved clinch for mono to lure/hook. bene using these knots forever. Quote
Super User QUAKEnSHAKE Posted April 17, 2020 Super User Posted April 17, 2020 Through the eye twice uni knot easy to tie works very well with mono FC and best for braid better than palomar. 1 Quote
Super User Hammer 4 Posted April 17, 2020 Super User Posted April 17, 2020 12 minutes ago, QUAKEnSHAKE said: Through the eye twice uni knot easy to tie works very well with mono FC and best for braid better than palomar. Been doing the through the eye for many years, however, some of the jigs that I bought last year, have pretty dang small eyelets, with even 12 lb mono, it's almost impossible to get 2 wraps in there. Be nice if some of the jig makers would take this into account when making the molds..Oh, so what I did was Carefully ream the hole out just enought to get the double wrap in there. 1 Quote
waymont Posted April 17, 2020 Posted April 17, 2020 7 hours ago, Bass_Fishing_Socal said: Uni knot, never goes wrong easy and fast, doesn’t waster a lot of line, work well for both mono, FC and braid. Also same knot can be use to connect main line or leader. I don't think the uni knot works well with with fluorocarbon. It's a weak knot for fluoro. Quote
Super User JustJames Posted April 17, 2020 Super User Posted April 17, 2020 17 minutes ago, waymont said: I don't think the uni knot works well with with fluorocarbon. It's a weak knot for fluoro. I don’t know but I use double uni knot for connection braid to FC, then uni direct to hook never have any problem. I use FC from 6lb to 15lb. On the other hand I found that, any clinch knot not play well with stiff FC 12lb and up. I usually do 4 wraps for line 8lb and up and 5-6 wraps for 6lb and below. Quote
waymont Posted April 17, 2020 Posted April 17, 2020 24 minutes ago, Bass_Fishing_Socal said: I don’t know but I use double uni knot for connection braid to FC, then uni direct to hook never have any problem. I use FC from 6lb to 15lb. On the other hand I found that, any clinch knot not play well with stiff FC 12lb and up. I usually do 4 wraps for line 8lb and up and 5-6 wraps for 6lb and below. Cool. I'll try it with 4 wraps. I usually use 6 wraps when I tie a uni knot. Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted April 17, 2020 Super User Posted April 17, 2020 My 'definition' of easy when it comes to knots I have to be able to tie it correctly and in a timely manner at night without a light. That said, I use a uni to to uni-knot as the line to line connection knot on everything. Tried many others over the years; always come back to it. It's always a San Diego Jam for the FC connection to hooks & baits and a uni-knot again for the mono connection knot for hooks and baits. I also use the uni-knot as my drop shot rigging knot (and do put the tag end through the drop shot hook eye before adding the weight). btw - Hate the Palomar - Hate It. YMMV A-Jay 1 Quote
Hulkster Posted April 17, 2020 Posted April 17, 2020 i love the palomar knot. its so easy and so strong, and works well for everything 1 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted April 17, 2020 Super User Posted April 17, 2020 Uni, Palomar, and Improved Cinch knots have worked for me for decades. Quote
Super User Fishes in trees Posted April 17, 2020 Super User Posted April 17, 2020 When it comes to learning g stuff, kids learn stuff well that they are interested in. I knew how to tie all those knots when I was a Cub Scout, how old is that? 9 or 10? None of those knots are particularly difficult. If a child can't learn an improved clinch knot or a Palomar knot, that child might not be fishing material. If you want to teach your child a difficult knot teach them an Alberto or a King Sling. Once they learn it, have them come over and teach me - again. I mess those two knot up, first try, nearly every time. It generally takes me several tries to get the Alberty knot right, same for the King Sling. Quote
Super User NHBull Posted April 17, 2020 Super User Posted April 17, 2020 The one knot that can do it all and is hard to screw up is the Uni, whether it it standard, improved or doubled. This will be the first one I teach my grandson. Shaw's will be the second He is only 4 so I have time to change my mind ? 1 Quote
evilcatfish Posted April 17, 2020 Posted April 17, 2020 I use the palomar for just about everything. Quick to tie and I've never had any strength issues Quote
Super User Bird Posted April 17, 2020 Super User Posted April 17, 2020 I can't tie any knot without readers but when I see the finished product, it's always a palomar. Quote
Super User WRB Posted April 17, 2020 Super User Posted April 17, 2020 I used the Palomar before it was called a Palomar knot, it was the Indian knot in the 50's. Palomar is a pain the arsh to tie larger size lures with treble hooks and jig skirts strands often get into the knot when clinching tight. If you twist the knot during tieing it the Palomar knot can fail. Difinately not fool proof. The Uni knot the tag end needs to wrapped inside the loop, not easy in the dark. I use the San Deigo Jam knot for FC line and for my jigs, good knot but not the easiest to tie unless using the weight of the lure to help wrap the line, requires more skill to tie correctly. Improved clinch knot is the easiest to learn and tie correctly. Tom 1 Quote
greentrout Posted April 17, 2020 Posted April 17, 2020 san diego jam knot ... braid and mono ... very easy to tie .. good fishing ... Quote
skekoam Posted April 17, 2020 Author Posted April 17, 2020 3 hours ago, evilcatfish said: I use the palomar for just about everything. Quick to tie and I've never had any strength issues The palomar produces such a small knot with fluro, which makes me question its overall strength. Maybe I'm doing it wrong or thinking too much. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted April 17, 2020 Super User Posted April 17, 2020 Bigger doesn't mean better. Well tied, the Palomar is one of the strongest knots out there. 1 Quote
Hower08 Posted April 17, 2020 Posted April 17, 2020 The Palomar knot Is one of the simplest and strongest knots you can tie for a fishing application. I learned how to tie it when I was around 8 years old. The only thing I will go to sometimes is a fisherman's knot on ultra thin lines, I'm talking 4 pound and lighter. Be sure to wet the knot with spit as your tightening it down and it will not burn your flouro or mono lines and it helps it cinch down tighter on braid. On braid I will often tie a double palomar just for a little added security Quote
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