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So i've been experimenting with knots that are fairly simple to tie.  Something my son can learn.  I was hoping to get votes on which you guys think is the best:

 

1. slip knot

2. palomar knot

3. uni knot

 

Trust be told, I've had a few slip knots fail but it is also what I've used them most when I started out fishing.  Palomar is very simple, but haven't tried it yet on the waters.  The uni knot looks very durable as well, but again I haven't tried it yet while fishing.

 

Thanks

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If your tying fluro, I'd vote for the uni knot, very easy to tie. The palomar would be next, as long as you tie it correctly.

 

I should say, that I prefer the San Diego Jam knot, except for drop shoting.

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Palomar knot is best for braid. 

I don't use the uni or slip knot.

I use a san diego jam knot for fluoro and mono

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Don't use a slip knot.

The easiest fishing knot for a kid to tie is whatever you teach them 1st.

All around knot would be a improved clinch knot. After putting the tag end through the eye can twist the lure or hook 5 times, tag end through the loop next to the eye and back up through the loop at the top. Wet and pull tight. 

Palomar knot for hooks and clips. Tag end through the eye then back through to make a large loop, overhand tie the loop, put the hook or clip through the loop, wet and pull the tag end tight.

If I can write the instructions it's a simple knot.

Tom

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Uni knot, never goes wrong easy and fast, doesn’t waster a lot of line, work well for both mono, FC and braid. Also same knot can be use to connect main line or leader.

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Palomar for braid to hook/lure and improved clinch for mono to lure/hook. bene using these knots forever.

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12 minutes ago, QUAKEnSHAKE said:

Through the eye twice uni knot easy to tie works very well with mono FC and best for braid better than palomar.

Been doing the through the eye for many years, however, some of the jigs that I bought last year, have pretty dang small eyelets, with even 12 lb mono, it's almost impossible to get 2 wraps in there. Be nice if some of the jig makers would take this into account when making the molds..Oh, so what I did was Carefully ream the hole out just enought to get the double wrap in there.

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7 hours ago, Bass_Fishing_Socal said:

Uni knot, never goes wrong easy and fast, doesn’t waster a lot of line, work well for both mono, FC and braid. Also same knot can be use to connect main line or leader.

I don't think the uni knot works well with with fluorocarbon. It's a weak knot for fluoro.

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17 minutes ago, waymont said:

I don't think the uni knot works well with with fluorocarbon. It's a weak knot for fluoro.

I don’t know but I use double uni knot for connection braid to FC, then uni direct to hook never have any problem. I use FC from 6lb to 15lb. On the other hand I found that, any clinch knot not play well with stiff FC 12lb and up. I usually do 4 wraps for line 8lb and up and 5-6 wraps for 6lb and below.

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24 minutes ago, Bass_Fishing_Socal said:

I don’t know but I use double uni knot for connection braid to FC, then uni direct to hook never have any problem. I use FC from 6lb to 15lb. On the other hand I found that, any clinch knot not play well with stiff FC 12lb and up. I usually do 4 wraps for line 8lb and up and 5-6 wraps for 6lb and below.

Cool. I'll try it with 4 wraps. I usually use 6 wraps when I tie a uni knot.

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My 'definition' of easy when it comes to knots 

I have to be able to tie it correctly and in a timely manner at night without a light. 

That said, I use a uni to to uni-knot as the line to line connection knot on everything.

Tried many others over the years; always come back to it.

It's always a San Diego Jam for the FC connection to hooks & baits

and a uni-knot again for the mono connection knot for hooks and baits.

I also use the uni-knot as my drop shot rigging knot (and do put the tag end through the drop shot hook eye before adding the weight).

 

btw - Hate the Palomar - Hate It.

YMMV

:smiley:

A-Jay

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Uni, Palomar, and Improved Cinch knots have worked for me for decades.

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When it comes to learning g stuff, kids learn stuff well that they are interested in.  I knew how to tie all those knots when I was a Cub Scout, how old is that?  9 or 10?   None of those knots are particularly difficult.  If a child can't learn an improved clinch knot or a Palomar knot, that child might not be fishing material.  If you want to teach your child a difficult knot teach them an Alberto or a King Sling.    Once they learn it, have them come over and teach me - again.  I mess those two knot up, first try, nearly every time.   It generally takes me several tries to get the Alberty knot right, same for the King Sling.

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The one knot that can do it all and is hard to screw up is the Uni, whether it it standard, improved or doubled.  This will be the first one I teach my grandson.

 

Shaw's will be the second 

 

He is only 4 so I have time to change my mind ?

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I can't tie any knot without readers but when I see the finished product, it's always a palomar. 

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I used the Palomar before it was called a Palomar knot, it was the Indian knot in the 50's. Palomar is a pain the arsh to tie larger size lures with treble hooks and jig skirts strands often get into the knot when clinching tight. If you twist the knot during tieing it the Palomar knot can fail. Difinately not fool proof.

The Uni knot the tag end needs to wrapped inside the loop, not easy in the dark.

I use the San Deigo Jam knot for FC line and for my jigs, good knot but not the easiest to tie unless using the weight of the lure to help wrap the line, requires more skill to tie correctly.

Improved clinch knot is the easiest to learn and tie correctly.

Tom

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3 hours ago, evilcatfish said:

I use the palomar for just about everything. Quick to tie and I've never had any strength issues

The palomar produces such a small knot with fluro, which makes me question its overall strength.  Maybe I'm doing it wrong or thinking too much.

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Bigger doesn't mean better.  Well tied, the Palomar is one of the strongest knots out there.

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The Palomar knot Is one of the simplest and strongest knots you can tie for a fishing application. I learned how to tie it when I was around 8 years old. The only thing I will go to sometimes is a fisherman's knot on ultra thin lines, I'm talking 4 pound and lighter.  Be sure to wet the knot with spit as your tightening it down and it will not burn your flouro or mono lines and it helps it cinch down tighter on braid. On braid I will often tie a double palomar just for a little added security 

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