Wired Wrong Posted April 3, 2020 Posted April 3, 2020 Can anyone provide a cure for this noise? I have tried oiling the brake drum but it didn't help.Thanks Quote
Super User jbsoonerfan Posted April 3, 2020 Super User Posted April 3, 2020 Sounds like you are reeling over a backlash to me. Quote
garroyo130 Posted April 3, 2020 Posted April 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, jbsoonerfan said: Sounds like you are reeling over a backlash to me. Agreed ... time to get out those singles STRIP! STRIP! STRIP! then spool it on tightly Quote
basser27 Posted April 3, 2020 Posted April 3, 2020 3 hours ago, Wired Wrong said: Can anyone provide a cure for this noise? I have tried oiling the brake drum but it didn't help.Thanks Nothing sounds out of the ordinary with the reel. Like others said, you could be reeling over a backlash or you are reeling on top of loose line Quote
FrankN209 Posted April 4, 2020 Posted April 4, 2020 37 minutes ago, BaitFinesse said: Time to clean and relube. I agree. Sounds like bearings are drying out... Quote
Super User FishTank Posted April 4, 2020 Super User Posted April 4, 2020 Sounds like most reels when reeled in that fast. 1 Quote
Wired Wrong Posted April 4, 2020 Author Posted April 4, 2020 I have 4 of these reels and all have less than 100 cast,and 3 of the 4 sound like this.I have several older Curados that don't do this. I have lubed the brake dru and spool rod,worm gear etc.But I can do some again.Thanks for the replies. Quote
DomQ Posted April 4, 2020 Posted April 4, 2020 Do the reels see a lot of use? Couldn't hurt to open up and lube up the bearings, the bearing on the side plate where the brake drum is is the easiest to get to, then the pinion bearing on the other side and the one behind the tension knob cap. 1 Quote
Wired Wrong Posted April 4, 2020 Author Posted April 4, 2020 These reels are basically new with less than 100 cast on them, But I will lube them again.Thanks for your response. Quote
Super User Sam Posted April 4, 2020 Super User Posted April 4, 2020 Use a good grease and mix some graphite in the grease when servicing the reel. Clean out the old grease and then add your new formula to replace the old grease. 1 Quote
Super User jimmyjoe Posted April 4, 2020 Super User Posted April 4, 2020 36 minutes ago, Wired Wrong said: I have 4 of these reels and all have less than 100 cast,and 3 of the 4 sound like this Take the "good" reel and one of the bad ones. Mark them with tape as "G" and "B". You're going to switch some parts around, and this will help you not get mixed up as to which part came from where and went to where. ALWAYS switch parts from the reel marked "B" to the reel marked "G". Consistency counts for a lot. Open them up, and switch out the main gears, but not the pinion. Put them back together and try casting them again. What you're watching for is whether the noise follow the main gear or stays with the untouched pinion. If the noise follows the main gear, the trouble is the main gear. If it doesn't, then open the reels back up, and switch pinion gears just as you did with the main gears. If the noise follows the pinion gear, the pinion gear is the problem. If swapping both main gear and pinion gear does absolutely nothing to change the noise, then your problem lies elsewhere. Yes, I know it was a bit of a bother to do all that changing around, but now you know what you're dealing with and what you're NOT dealing with. jj 1 Quote
Super User jbsoonerfan Posted April 4, 2020 Super User Posted April 4, 2020 Take all the line off that reel and give us another video of it doing the same thing. 2 Quote
CrankFate Posted April 4, 2020 Posted April 4, 2020 Sounds like something loose. I’d guess that it is missing a metal washer or two under the drag star or that it may be missing the thin flat washer under the spool tension knob. If that’s not it, bearings that don’t have proper tolerances. Or the levelwind pawl is loose or the levelwind shaft itself is not seated tightly. But this is just guesswork. 1 Quote
The Maestro Posted April 4, 2020 Posted April 4, 2020 What's the noise we're supposed to be listening for? It's sounds like you're reeling in a bait that's causing the rod to vibrate like a chatterbait or a lipless crank. If that's the case it's making it difficult to hear the sound you're talking about. Quote
waymont Posted April 4, 2020 Posted April 4, 2020 Sounds like dry bearings to me. The easiest fix there is. 1 Quote
Super User dodgeguy Posted April 4, 2020 Super User Posted April 4, 2020 14 hours ago, jimmyjoe said: Take the "good" reel and one of the bad ones. Mark them with tape as "G" and "B". You're going to switch some parts around, and this will help you not get mixed up as to which part came from where and went to where. ALWAYS switch parts from the reel marked "B" to the reel marked "G". Consistency counts for a lot. Open them up, and switch out the main gears, but not the pinion. Put them back together and try casting them again. What you're watching for is whether the noise follow the main gear or stays with the untouched pinion. If the noise follows the main gear, the trouble is the main gear. If it doesn't, then open the reels back up, and switch pinion gears just as you did with the main gears. If the noise follows the pinion gear, the pinion gear is the problem. If swapping both main gear and pinion gear does absolutely nothing to change the noise, then your problem lies elsewhere. Yes, I know it was a bit of a bother to do all that changing around, but now you know what you're dealing with and what you're NOT dealing with. jj Gears wear into each other. Just Like a car differential both should be done as a set. Quote
Super User jbsoonerfan Posted April 4, 2020 Super User Posted April 4, 2020 Did you guys read the part where he said they have less than 100 casts on them? Why would they need new gears or new bearings or anything else? 1 Quote
Super User jimmyjoe Posted April 4, 2020 Super User Posted April 4, 2020 4 hours ago, jbsoonerfan said: Did you guys read the part where he said they have less than 100 casts on them? Why would they need new gears or new bearings or anything else? Yes, I read it. I would guess everyone did. And you're right .... it MIGHT not be anything mechanical. A lot of people pointed to the line, and I'm assuming the OP is trying to sort that out right now. If that's the trouble, then that's fine. But it MIGHT not be the trouble. It's possible that bearings or gears are the culprit. The point is that the OP needs to know whether this-or-that is or is not the trouble, so that he can narrow things down. It never hurts to investigate a little bit before you send something off to the factory. I had 2 Curado reels that sounded like this video. I sent them in, and Shimano changed the gear set in both. I had thought it might be the bearings, but it wasn't. As to why something mechanical might be wrong when the reels have only 100 casts on them, I'll just say that I make absolutely no assumptions. You just never know. jj 1 Quote
Super User dodgeguy Posted April 4, 2020 Super User Posted April 4, 2020 That's why they have warranties. 1 Quote
Super User jbsoonerfan Posted April 5, 2020 Super User Posted April 5, 2020 1 hour ago, jimmyjoe said: Yes, I read it. I would guess everyone did. And you're right .... it MIGHT not be anything mechanical. A lot of people pointed to the line, and I'm assuming the OP is trying to sort that out right now. If that's the trouble, then that's fine. But it MIGHT not be the trouble. It's possible that bearings or gears are the culprit. The point is that the OP needs to know whether this-or-that is or is not the trouble, so that he can narrow things down. It never hurts to investigate a little bit before you send something off to the factory. I had 2 Curado reels that sounded like this video. I sent them in, and Shimano changed the gear set in both. I had thought it might be the bearings, but it wasn't. As to why something mechanical might be wrong when the reels have only 100 casts on them, I'll just say that I make absolutely no assumptions. You just never know. jj I would say that if he got 3 out of 4 brand new Curados with bad bearings in them, then he should shelter in place for at least the next 40 years. 2 Quote
Super User dodgeguy Posted April 5, 2020 Super User Posted April 5, 2020 39 minutes ago, jbsoonerfan said: I would say that if he got 3 out of 4 brand new Curados with bad bearings in them, then he should shelter in place for at least the next 40 years. Or buy Lews 1 1 Quote
Super User WRB Posted April 5, 2020 Super User Posted April 5, 2020 Contact Shimano they have good customer service and should be able to resolve your problems. If you are not comfortable with Shimano try a good factory tech like Dan Isaac at ReelEx or the Tackle Trap techs referenced. Tom Quote
Super User dodgeguy Posted April 5, 2020 Super User Posted April 5, 2020 10 hours ago, BaitFinesse said: I've had brand new reels that buzzed and made noise out of the box that I had for replace the gears on. Then why would you keep buying those brands? Quote
garroyo130 Posted April 5, 2020 Posted April 5, 2020 10 hours ago, BaitFinesse said: I've had brand new reels that buzzed and made noise out of the box that I had for replace the gears on. I had this happen to me on a couple of Chinese-made Lew's LFSs. Gave up on Lew's after that. Quote
Super User dodgeguy Posted April 5, 2020 Super User Posted April 5, 2020 12 minutes ago, BaitFinesse said: No brand is immune. If I had multiple issues with a brand I'd be done. Quote
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