Why don't pros fish the ned rig?

[newyorktoiowa57]

I've never heard of a pro fishing a ned rig in a tournament, but maybe I am missing something.   I feel like the Neko Rig is becoming the go to on tour.   Is it because the Ned doesn't catch big enough fish?  I have caught some solid fish on the Ned myself

[Team9nine]

 

 

[TnRiver46]

44 minutes ago, newyorktoiowa57 said:

I've never heard of a pro fishing a ned rig in a tournament, but maybe I am missing something.   I feel like the Neko Rig is becoming the go to on tour.   Is it because the Ned doesn't catch big enough fish?  I have caught some solid fish on the Ned myself

They fish it at most clear water smallmouth stops up north. It is used down south as well just not quite as much. In my experience along TN river, it just gets stuck on everything. We have no sand bottom lakes, all rock ledges with logs across everything 

[RichF]

Pros only throw senkos, neds, and nekos. Oh, and I guess bladed jigs too.

[WRB]

Mark Daniel's Jr won a Elite bass tournament at lake Oahe in 2018 using the Ned rig.

Tom

[DitchPanda]

Mark Daniels jr won the Lake Oahe elite series event in 2017 with Ned rig

Grae Buck came in 2nd to Andrew Upshaw last year in the FLW event at Lake Cherokee...he was throwing shaky head and Ned ig

[WRB]

1 hour ago, DitchPanda said:

Mark Daniels jr won the Lake Oahe elite series event in 2017 with Ned rig

Grae Buck came in 2nd to Andrew Upshaw last year in the FLW event at Lake Cherokee...he was throwing shaky head and Ned ig

July 2, 2018 according the B.A.S.S.

Tom

[roadwarrior]

2 hours ago, TnRiver46 said:

In my experience along TN river, it just gets stuck on everything. 

One and done...

 

[newyorktoiowa57]

When I said the Neko rig was the go to I meant go to finesse rig, not That pros did not throw other stuff. 

[DitchPanda]

WRB is right it was in 18

I have seen a lot of guys throwing neko as well that's true...still believe a weightless senko probably gets thrown more by pros day in day out

Guess I was confused because the title is why don't pros fish the Ned rig?

[Brew City Bass]

Pros definitely fish the ned rig. I think the question is "Why isn't it used more often, and why do some pros never touch it".

Probably comes down to that it's a slow presentation most of time, a great angle when the bite is tough at our lakes, but not sure if it's worth using often in a tourney. Other probably is confidence. If I've been fishing blade baits, cranks, and t-rigs my whole life, I'm probably not going to try something completely new in a cash money tournament unless I'm very desperate. 

I've been wrong before though, it's just an opinion.

[Bluebasser86]

13 hours ago, TnRiver46 said:

 We have no sand bottom lakes, all rock ledges with logs across everything 

I fish tons of rocky and log covered bottoms. Trick is to not let it hit the bottom any more than it has to and fish the right head/hook combo so it comes over stuff instead of burying into logs and rocks. Ned Kehde, the guy it's named after, lives right here and fishes a lot of the same lakes I do. You won't find any nice sand bottom lakes here. Obviously, you can't drop them into a brushpile, but they'll come through a lot more than most folks realize with the right jighead and presentation.

[Russ E]

5 hours ago, Bluebasser86 said:

I fish tons of rocky and log covered bottoms. Trick is to not let it hit the bottom any more than it has to and fish the right head/hook combo so it comes over stuff instead of burying into logs and rocks. Ned Kehde, the guy it's named after, lives right here and fishes a lot of the same lakes I do. You won't find any nice sand bottom lakes here. Obviously, you can't drop them into a brushpile, but they'll come through a lot more than most folks realize with the right jighead and presentation.

I have watched Ned fishing the local lake. He will sit right in the middle of a patch of coontail and hardly ever get hung up. They do catch a lot of fish with that bait.

[Fishin Dad]

7 hours ago, Bluebasser86 said:

I fish tons of rocky and log covered bottoms. Trick is to not let it hit the bottom any more than it has to and fish the right head/hook combo so it comes over stuff instead of burying into logs and rocks. Ned Kehde, the guy it's named after, lives right here and fishes a lot of the same lakes I do. You won't find any nice sand bottom lakes here. Obviously, you can't drop them into a brushpile, but they'll come through a lot more than most folks realize with the right jighead and presentation.

Hey Bluebasser86, would you be willing to share your favorite head and hook combo?  I fish a lot of areas similar with weeds, rock, and logs.   Thanks.  

[Bluebasser86]

47 minutes ago, Fishin Dad said:

Hey Bluebasser86, would you be willing to share your favorite head and hook combo?  I fish a lot of areas similar with weeds, rock, and logs.   Thanks.  

I pour my own, 1/16oz head, #2 Eagle Claw Lil Nasty hook. The bait doesn't touch the bottom very often.

[PourMyOwn]

3 minutes ago, Bluebasser86 said:

I pour my own, 1/16oz head, #2 Eagle Claw Lil Nasty hook. The bait doesn't touch the bottom very often.

This is exactly my favorite set up. I will pour some #1s and some other weights, but the Lil Nasty is my favorite hook.

[Fishin Dad]

57 minutes ago, Bluebasser86 said:

I pour my own, 1/16oz head, #2 Eagle Claw Lil Nasty hook. The bait doesn't touch the bottom very often.

Darn it, I was hoping you weren’t going to say that.  Is there anything else similar that is available to us laymen that can’t make our own?  

[MickD]

My son always said that the Neds take the smaller fish. I argued that the Neds take all the fish.  A Ned won the biggest bass in a Lake St Clair tourney a few years ago.  My PB smallmouth came on a Ned.  My son has caught some really nice ones on Neds, and now admits I was right.  Up here they take smb, lmb, walleyes, pike, rock bass. . . 

 

We do fish them on what are probably cleaner bottoms than others farther south do.  Mostly rocks and gravel.  Some sand.

[JoePhish]

23 hours ago, TnRiver46 said:

In my experience along TN river, it just gets stuck on everything. We have no sand bottom lakes, all rock ledges with logs across everything 

Good, I'm glad it's not just me. Some guys I know, though, kill it on the Ned, especially a weedless version. Me? I end up retying more than fishing so I've pretty much abandoned it except for throwing it into a school that is popping shad on the surface. 

[Sam]

On 3/27/2020 at 12:32 PM, Team9nine said:

 

 

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[padon]

10 hours ago, Bluebasser86 said:

I fish tons of rocky and log covered bottoms. Trick is to not let it hit the bottom any more than it has to and fish the right head/hook combo so it comes over stuff instead of burying into logs and rocks. Ned Kehde, the guy it's named after, lives right here and fishes a lot of the same lakes I do. You won't find any nice sand bottom lakes here. Obviously, you can't drop them into a brushpile, but they'll come through a lot more than most folks realize with the right jighead and presentation.

1. this is the biggest issue with a lot of people fishing the ned.you have to use a light jig head. the light head and small hook will come through a lot of snags. too heavy or too big of a hook and it buries in.same with grass , the light head and small hook will settle almost on top of the grass you just pop it off and often that's when the fish will bite. also this isn't always a drag the bottom technique.ned swims and barely ticks bottom a lot when he fishes he doesn't drag bottom like a shakeyhead.

[Bluebasser86]

12 hours ago, Fishin Dad said:

Darn it, I was hoping you weren’t going to say that.  Is there anything else similar that is available to us laymen that can’t make our own?  

Siebert makes his that is pretty similar. A lot of bait makers make and sell them. I just ordered the new Do-It mold that makes 6 1/16oz Ned heads at once so I can stop making them one at a time. My eye can stop twitched every time someone orders 40 Ned rig heads now.

[Cgolf]

The one thing I have noticed when pros say they are throwing the Ned, they throw a heavier weight with a large hook. Micah Frazier used a combo of 1/8 and 1/4 Ned heads. 
 

So I guess it depends on the definition of the Ned, plastic size/style or jig weight. 

[Maxximus Redneckus]

They dont fish a ned rig ON camera cause it dont fit the money pocket ..the lowly ned is about 2 dollars total and can last all day ....the manufacturers want ppl to buy treble hook lures from 8 to 20 bucks so they can lose them all day long is all..

[ChrisD46]

On ‎3‎/‎27‎/‎2020 at 12:14 PM, newyorktoiowa57 said:

I've never heard of a pro fishing a ned rig in a tournament, but maybe I am missing something.   I feel like the Neko Rig is becoming the go to on tour.   Is it because the Ned doesn't catch big enough fish?  I have caught some solid fish on the Ned myself

*Are you kidding ? You may not here about it as much but as this thread replies prove - many Pros do and three times as many don't admit that they do (i.e. using Ned Rig non - sponsor products) .