flipping and pitching Best Flipping & Pitching reel? With a flipping switch?

[Matt Eisen]

Hey guys,

 

I'm looking for a solid and versatile reel for my punching set up, any suggestions? Specifically, I'm ONLY interested in a baitcasting reel that has a "flipping switch". These seem to be impossible to find, but an example of a reel with a flipping switch is the Lew's Super Duty G. Also, I heard that Abu Garcia's black max and silver max have them in specific models.

 

Please help me and list some suggestions, I've scoured the internet and can't find many options. Finding a reel with a flipping switch is my main concern. What do you guys know

 

(P.S. This is unimportant but im throwing it on a 7'3 Okuma Scott Martin Signature TCS Casting Rod Heavy, Fast action because I like the way Scott martin fishes and I'm using it in a kayak so i can't really work a legit 7'11 Ex Heavy flippin stick.)

 

What are the best baitcasters with a flipping switch option? Idc if it's $20 or $400

Thanks!!!!!!

[FryDog62]

I have seen some of the write-ups and reviews of the Daiwa Tatula Pitchin/Flippin reel but I have not used one myself to attest to the Flippin switch capability.  
 

https://www.daiwa.com/us/contents/reels/tatulaelite/index.html

[Matt Eisen]

9 minutes ago, FryDog62 said:

I have seen some of the write-ups and reviews of the Daiwa Tatula Pitchin/Flippin reel but I have not used one myself to attest to the Flippin switch capability.  
 

https://www.daiwa.com/us/contents/reels/tatulaelite/index.html

Thank you for this suggestion, its definitely a pretty reel and I was actually looking at that. Unfortunately, it doesn't have that flipping switch I'm talking about.

Here's an example, check out the video at 45 seconds:

 

[Smalls]

1 hour ago, Matt Eisen said:

I'm using it in a kayak so i can't really work a legit 7'11 Ex Heavy flippin stick

Why not? Plenty of us swingin 8'+ swimbait rods around off plastic boats. 

[Hammer 4]

25 minutes ago, Smalls said:

Why not? Plenty of us swingin 8'+ swimbait rods around off plastic boats. 

Have done both from a Float Tube..Not easy at first, but can be done.

[Matt Eisen]

1 hour ago, Smalls said:

Why not? Plenty of us swingin 8'+ swimbait rods around off plastic boats. 

I dont know man, I still believe that working a rod like that from shore or standing in a boat is a lot better of a presentation than sitting down in a kayak. I dont know what it is, I'm 6'1, I get ticked off by anything in my way like rodholders, electronics, etc.

 

It's not the same but to each his own! I gotta imagine that if you're working a really long rod Like that you gotta be constantly hitting the surface of the water

[Hammer 4]

1 minute ago, Matt Eisen said:

I dont know man, I still believe that working a rod like that from shore or standing in a boat is a lot better of a presentation than sitting down in a kayak. I dont know what it is, I'm 6'1, I get ticked off by anything in my way like rodholders, electronics, etc.

 

It's not the same but to each his own! I gotta imagine that if you're working a really long rod Like that you gotta be constantly hitting the surface of the water

I'm the same height as you are. In a float tube, your sitting about 4 to 6" off the water surface. A float tube is Much smaller than a yak, and with a 4 rod holder, I was limited for room to work my 8' swimbait rod, but I figured out a way to do it, same with flippin and pitchin. Try going somewhat across your body vs staying to your side, keeping the rod tip high enough that you don't hit anything, and the release is critical..Practice, practice..you will get worked out.

[Matt Eisen]

4 minutes ago, Hammer 4 said:

I'm the same height as you are. In a float tube, your sitting about 4 to 6" off the water surface. A float tube is Much smaller than a yak, and with a 4 rod holder, I was limited for room to work my 8' swimbait rod, but I figured out a way to do it, same with flippin and pitchin. Try going somewhat across your body vs staying to your side, keeping the rod tip high enough that you don't hit anything, and the release is critical..Practice, practice..you will get worked out.

Thank you for that advice! What kind of reels are you using to flip and pitch???

[Hammer 4]

Just now, Matt Eisen said:

Thank you for that advice! What kind of reels are you using to flip and pitch???

Diawa's, flipping, the diawa Fuego 8 speed, pitching I could use the same reel, but I use a different rod, with a Shimano Citica 201,  7 speed. Many, many years ago, we used much slower speed reels, and did o.k back then.

[Matt Eisen]

5 minutes ago, Hammer 4 said:

Diawa's, flipping, the diawa Fuego 8 speed, pitching I could use the same reel, but I use a different rod, with a Shimano Citica 201,  7 speed. Many, many years ago, we used much slower speed reels, and did o.k back then.

I like the citica a lot. I own a Curado 200 K and it does everything. Too bad neither of them have this "flipping switch" feature I'm looking for...

[Smalls]

14 minutes ago, Matt Eisen said:

I dont know man, I still believe that working a rod like that from shore or standing in a boat is a lot better of a presentation than sitting down in a kayak. I dont know what it is, I'm 6'1, I get ticked off by anything in my way like rodholders, electronics, etc.

 

It's not the same but to each his own! I gotta imagine that if you're working a really long rod Like that you gotta be constantly hitting the surface of the water

5', 8', doesn't really make a difference when the rest of your rods are 2' behind you. If you're like most kayakers, you cram a bunch of stuff in the limited space we have. Just gotta pay attention. Like Hammer said, cast side to side, not stern to bow. 

 

I usually slap the water more with my shorter rods, cause I try getting really low for those precise quiet casts. I'm almost always standing when I'm launching swimbaits, trying to get as much distance as I can. 

 

 

[Hammer 4]

I've never used a flipping switch. Just pull out enough line to reach the spot you want to get the lure to, disengage the free spool, and go..has worked for many years that way. 

[Matt Eisen]

2 minutes ago, Smalls said:

5', 8', doesn't really make a difference when the rest of your rods are 2' behind you. If you're like most kayakers, you cram a bunch of stuff in the limited space we have. Just gotta pay attention. Like Hammer said, cast side to side, not stern to bow. 

 

I usually slap the water more with my shorter rods, cause I try getting really low for those precise quiet casts. I'm almost always standing when I'm launching swimbaits, trying to get as much distance as I can. 

 

 

Sounds like you got a nice boat. I try not to stand in mine too much because even though its 12ft its narrow

[Smalls]

2 minutes ago, Matt Eisen said:

Sounds like you got a nice boat. I try not to stand in mine too much because even though its 12ft its narrow

It gets me off the bank. 

 

To your original question, have you checked out the Daiwa Megaforce? You can find em cheap on Amazon. 

 

The Quantum Accurist also has a flippin switch, but probably isn't much better quality than the silvermax, in my opinion. 

 

Might also be able to find a Shimano Castaic cheap. 

[Matt Eisen]

1 minute ago, Smalls said:

It gets me off the bank. 

 

To your original question, have you checked out the Daiwa Megaforce? You can find em cheap on Amazon. 

 

The Quantum Accurist also has a flippin switch, but probably isn't much better quality than the silvermax, in my opinion. 

 

Might also be able to find a Shimano Castaic cheap. 

I actually looked into the Accurist and the black max and silver max because apparently they have it, but I'm trying to stay away from those for obvious reasons. I'm definitely going to take a look at the Megaforce and Castaic now 

 

I want something nice like the Lew's Super Duty G, but I've heard mixed things about Lews and im honestly not in love with the reel.

[WRB]

Very few bass anglers flip, most pitch.

Gary Klein developed a reel with a switch for flipping 35 years ago. Shimano Bantom Castaic CA200 Instagage* is a flipping reel that uses the thumb bar as a flippiing switch.

Suggest you look at Klein's vedio's and his Weapon jigs if you truly want to flip.

Dobyns developed a line of flipping rods for the CA Delta, check those out.

Why bass anglers think they need a high speed reel to flip cast is beyond comprehension, you don't use the reel, you do if you pitch.

Tom

*2002 vintage reel

[Smalls]

11 minutes ago, Matt Eisen said:

 

I want something nice like the Lew's Super Duty G, but I've heard mixed things about Lews and im honestly not in love with the reel.

I like my Lew's ??‍♂️. Not in love with it either, like my Shimano's, but it's a workhorse. 

[bogfrog]

The Garcia Silver max has a switch, if you dont mind fishing with junk. The Daiwa TDZ-HL reels are some of the finest ever made and while they can be cast easily, these reels are designed to be a flipping specialist from the ground up. They have been out of production for awhile, but are common on "online auction site". They sold new for about $400 and up, but they can be had for as little as $100 at times. If you want a serious high end dedicated flipping machine do yourself a favor and check one out. You wont be disappointed.

[Fishes in trees]

Ardent makes a flipping/pitching reel that has a unique concept.   Very small narrow spool & no level wind.  It has the flipping switch that you want.   An interesting concept - check it out at their web site.   There is a store at Truman Lake that deals in Ardent reels and I've looked at that reel several times, but haven't pulled the trigger.

Tackle Warehouse carries quite a few reels in the Ardent line, including the one I mentioned.

[Tim Kelly]

Not sure about other brands, but Daiwas can be re-engaged by flipping the thumb bar upwards, so you can almost use them like a reel with a flipping switch if that's your only criteria after a very little practise.

[Matt Eisen]

P.S. I recently just made a purchase that I'm quite happy with- I wound up buying Lew's Tournament MB Speed Spool LFS reel bc its a reel I've been interested in after seeing reviews and I found it new at a ridiculously low price.

 

It's the old Lew's Tournament MB, not the new black and Red "tournament MP". The reel I got was on sale on tackle warehouse during december, It got discontinued around February of this year, and it's a $140 reel I found for $100 you can't beat that! I can't wait to get this in the mail

 

No, it doesn't have a flipping switch however it has all the qualities that the Lew's Super Duty G has, literally like a 90% match but half the price. I say thats a win

 

Thank you for all the suggestions!!! Let's Keep the thread going! 

What rods reels and baits do you guys LOVE throwing for all of your pitching/flipping/ and punching applications?

I'm getting myself into trouble bc now this reel makes me want to throw it on a dobyns lol

[bogfrog]

On 3/27/2020 at 11:00 AM, Tim Kelly said:

Not sure about other brands, but Daiwas can be re-engaged by flipping the thumb bar upwards, so you can almost use them like a reel with a flipping switch if that's your only criteria after a very little practise.

On the T-3 variants all you have to do is push your thumb down on the front of the "bonnet" to engage the spool. If you palm your reel you never have to move your hand from the palming position. This isnt an option on reels with a flipping switch because you have to keep your hand behind the reel seat to operate the thumb bar. I never understood why these reels werent more popular in this country. The Japanese went crazy for them, and companies like Megabass and SLP made super versions of them.

[MN Fisher]

19 minutes ago, BaitFinesse said:

Most of us don't cast, pitch or flip while palming the reel.  We hold onto the rod handle when casting and then switch to palming the reel afterwards.  

Then there's those of us who never palm the reel, so it's a non-issue.

[Fishreed]

Junk you say about an  Abu Silver Max...LMAO..compared to what? Upgrade that reel with Ceramic spool bearings and it will kick crap out of anything you own.  I have been in the reel repair business for 50 years now and have torn inside just about every bait-casting reel known to mankind since 1968.   Not one bait-casting reel mentioned here is top quality BECAUSE NONE ARE EQUIPPED WITH CERAMIC spool, drive,  crank or knob bearings. Most still have nylon bushing or even brass bushings where a ceramic bearing should have been. The reel manufacturer screwed you and you don't even know it! Few  guys even know dog squat about ceramic bearings and what they do!  I have been going ape crap up-grading high end expensive reels to  ceramic spool bearings  which add a instant 20% increase in casting distance.  Since the Reagan Administration, I have used a tricked out Abu Garcia XLT Plus reels with upgraded ceramic spool bearings, replaced the handle nylon bushing with a bearing, upgraded the crappy greased cardboard 2 drag washers with carbontex graphite drag washers with sythetic Super Lube grease and added a 4 bearing paddle handle with the ability  to switch to a Shimano Single knob power handle. THIS REEL HAS MAGNETIC CAST CONTROL, and quick change spool ability AND a  "FLIPPING SWITCH" which is a godsend for vertical jogging walleye on the Detroit River without  turning the handle to engage the spool.   Class dismissed. P.S. The new LEW's XH reel has a flipping switch and  with the ceramic spool bearings  I added, these reels will replace my old "tricked"  out Abu xlts.  

[roadwarrior]

I have tried ceramic on several reels and subsequently had them replaced. I don't like the

noise and I don't need the marginal improvement in casting distance.