DanteT12 Posted March 12, 2020 Posted March 12, 2020 I am looking to add a third rod to my arsenal. I am looking for recomendations into what size/taper of rod. I primarily bank and kayak fishing, my local lake is grassy/shallow which I try to cater my rod and bait selections to. I currently own a St. Croix Bass Mojo Medium Light Spinning Rod that I use for most finesse applications, usually being Ned Rig/Neko/Weightless Worms/Shakey/Drop Shot. That seems to cover the bases well there. My second rod is a Dobyns Fury Mag Heavy I use for Frogs/Heavy Jigs/Swim Jig. I do a lot of chatterbait and jerkbait fishing, and would like to toss some squarebills in the mix. I want to cater to those presentations mostly. My dobyns IS cracked and I repaired, looking for something mid range that has good warranty. Suggests welcome. Thank You! Quote
JediAmoeba Posted March 12, 2020 Posted March 12, 2020 Its going to be tough to fit the bill for the techniques you mentioned but I would look into a 6'6" - 6'10" that's a mh with fast action. It won't be perfect for any of the applications but will be pretty good for all of them. Quote
Super User DitchPanda Posted March 12, 2020 Super User Posted March 12, 2020 Id say that's asking a lot from one rod...I would have 3 different rods for those techniques...but one rod i say could probably do it is the Falcon Bucoo SR trap caster it has enough of a crankbait rod bend to keep a jerkbait of crank pinned but enough backbone to set a chatterbait hook..I have 2 in the old bucoo series I use for traps and squarebills mostly but have used them for small spinnerbaits and buzzbaits without issue Quote
Super User jbsoonerfan Posted March 12, 2020 Super User Posted March 12, 2020 Another vote for a MH fast in a 6'10 Quote
Super User FishTank Posted March 12, 2020 Super User Posted March 12, 2020 My personal favorite for a general purpose rod is either the St. Croix Avid 7' MH Fast or the St. Croix Avid 7' M Fast. I have fished both from a kayak and like how they both can handle a wide variety of baits. For what you are doing, I would say the M would be best. Quote
BigShew2 Posted March 12, 2020 Posted March 12, 2020 I'm with the previous posters, 610mh would be a good fit, can even do spinnerbaits. You may however be better suited to throw the jerkbaits on your spinning rod - easier to cast, and won't overpower the hooks on them. Quote
Super User FryDog62 Posted March 12, 2020 Super User Posted March 12, 2020 6’10” MH Shimano Zodias or Daiwa Tatula might work well for jigs/Chatterbaits although the handles are a tad long for jerkbaits. ALX Deputy is 7’1” and a bit more expensive but extremely versatile. Quote
Pogues2300 Posted March 12, 2020 Posted March 12, 2020 6'10" medium/ moderate fast Zodias would work for the jerkbait and crankbait, maybe a little light for the chatterbait depending on cover. As others have said you aren't going to find a rod perfect for all your desired applications. Quote
kayaking_kev Posted March 12, 2020 Posted March 12, 2020 I use a Fury 703c for jerkbaits, but it's also good with chatterbaits and squarebills. 1 Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted March 12, 2020 Posted March 12, 2020 Those are three different rods for me personally. I like a fast action soft tip for jerkbaits so I’d look for that as it’s the least compromise for the other two applications. Quote
Westcoast Posted March 13, 2020 Posted March 13, 2020 A kistler crank/rip/twitch would fit the bill pretty good for what you’re looking for. Quote
Bandersnatch Posted March 13, 2020 Posted March 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Delaware Valley Tackle said: Those are three different rods for me personally. I like a fast action soft tip for jerkbaits so I’d look for that as it’s the least compromise for the other two applications. Completely agree Quote
swhit140 Posted March 13, 2020 Posted March 13, 2020 Falcon BuCoo SR Spinnerbait/Jerkbait BRC-5-168. Only $59.99 Quote
junyer357 Posted March 13, 2020 Posted March 13, 2020 Thats 3 rods for me too, but i understand its not always doable for everyone. I like a short(6'4), fast rod on jerkbaits, a 7' med-mod for cranks, and a 7'3 glass composite for chatterbaits. Some good suggestions here already on rods, but it will be a compromise somewhere on which techniques any rod will work better than another either way. My advice is to save up and pair it with a really good reel, like a sv spool daiwa or curado 70, something that can also help handle the big difference in the weights of the lures listed you plan to throw. Quote
Super User Angry John Posted March 13, 2020 Super User Posted March 13, 2020 For small square bills 1.0 and 1.5s jerk baits and 1/4 chatter baits from a canoe or yak my 66mf avid is the workhorse rod. A smaller reel like the alphas keeps the weight down and maximizes the ability to cast lighter lures. If your a shimano guy a core 50 may also be a good choice. Run 8-10 lb line and enjoy. I do not prefer expensive flourocarbon on this setup as I like the jerk baits to suspend not get pulled down by the line. Quote
Super User MIbassyaker Posted March 13, 2020 Super User Posted March 13, 2020 My 6'6" MF St. Croix Premier can do all of these pretty well. Quote
Finessegenics Posted March 13, 2020 Posted March 13, 2020 9 hours ago, MIbassyaker said: My 6'6" MF St. Croix Premier can do all of these pretty well. Do you find that the rod is more of a moderate fast than a true fast? I've played around with 6'6 M/F Croix's in store and they seem to have a good parabolic bend. What are your thoughts? Was looking into a Bass X 6'6 M/F for squarebills, cranks running up to 12 feet and topwaters. I know people say croixs generally have a slower action but I don't find that to be true with my avid x 7 MH/F. Quote
Super User MIbassyaker Posted March 13, 2020 Super User Posted March 13, 2020 3 hours ago, Finessegenics said: Do you find that the rod is more of a moderate fast than a true fast? I've played around with 6'6 M/F Croix's in store and they seem to have a good parabolic bend. What are your thoughts? Was looking into a Bass X 6'6 M/F for squarebills, cranks running up to 12 feet and topwaters. I know people say croixs generally have a slower action but I don't find that to be true with my avid x 7 MH/F. It's not my experience that st. croix is actions are slower generally, but the premier does seem a little more parabolic. Maybe it's the SCII blank, which the Bass X also uses, while the Avid x has the SCIII. St. croix rods do generally seem to have pretty soft tips though, regardless of action. 1 Quote
Super User Boomstick Posted March 14, 2020 Super User Posted March 14, 2020 I have a Daiwa 7'2" MH/R (mod. fast) glass rod that would fit the bill nicely. It has a good amount of backbone so that's good for spinnerbaits and chatterbaits, and some play in the tip -- try to give sweeping hooksets when fishing a larger hooked lure. It's pretty good for fishing square bills in grass, when a faster tip is preferred and works pretty good for jerkbaits too. Pretty much an all around moving bait stick if there ever was one. A M/F rod that runs on the heavier side, usually a 8-17 line rating will also work pretty well, like the St Croix Mojo Bass Jerkbait rod or the the Premier that MIBassyaker mentioned. I just got the Sierra 703C for my oldest son for this year and the tip is on the mod. fast side and I would think that would be a fantastic choice as well -- he plans to fish weightless and lightly weighted soft plastics, topwaters, cranks and jerkbaits on it. The Fury should be similiar. I think the Tatula Glass would be a better choice if you plan on fishing 1/2oz chatterbaits or spinnerbaits as it has a solid backbone to it, but you can fish weightless and lightly weighted soft plastics on the 703C. On 3/12/2020 at 6:35 PM, FryDog62 said: 6’10” MH Shimano Zodias or Daiwa Tatula might work well for jigs/Chatterbaits although the handles are a tad long for jerkbaits. ALX Deputy is 7’1” and a bit more expensive but extremely versatile. The 6'10" Tatula has a bit too much tip imo for a jerkbait, but is a great rod for soft plastics, jigs, chatterbaits, spinnerbaits, etc. 1 Quote
Mr.C in Texas Posted March 14, 2020 Posted March 14, 2020 Dobyns 734 would be a great choice or a 703 if you want to go lighter. I use a custom ml spinning for finesse, 703 mid weight/bladed and 735 for frogs/jigs. I kayak, bank and inshore wade fish so I don’t want to cart around a bunch of rods. Quote
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