Frog Turds Posted March 13, 2020 Posted March 13, 2020 1 hour ago, OCdockskipper said: There are no drugs to treat this specific virus yet. There are measures that can be taken to lower infection rate and care for those infected, but there is not a cure for it (which is what scares people). SEOUL, March 3 (Yonhap) -- Glead Sciences' experimental antiviral drug remdesivir is expected to be used to treat patients infected with the novel coronavirus in South Korea as part of a trial, drug industry sources said Tuesday. Remdesivir, currently under clinical trials in several countries, such as China, the epicenter of the outbreak, the United States and Japan, has not been fully approved by any country. The ministry also allowed a locally-developed antiviral drug called Virus Suppressing Factor (VSF) to treat COVID-19 patients at the request of Seoul National University Hospital. COVID-19 patients will be administered with a therapy called HzVSFv13, an injection-type of VSF developed by mid-sized bio firm ImmuneMed. So far, most COVID-19 patients have been given treatments to relieve their symptoms while severe patients were given a combination of flu medicine and Kaletra, an anti-retroviral medication that was developed by global pharmaceutical firm AbbVie Inc. and is used to treat HIV. The public health agency earlier announced a proposed protocol, which advises doctors to administer Kaletra twice a day to elderly patients and those who show severe symptoms of the coronavirus. I'll add there are a few more drugs to being used but I'm not going to list them.
Fishing_FF Posted March 13, 2020 Posted March 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Not_Here said: I want to make it known, the only reason I'm posting is to raise awareness. That means not being selfish & trying to help others be aware. Not to disregard this, do your part for yourself and others welfare. This is where we all have to detach from self. That is my ONLY reason for me taking time to post. Take it as you will, but that is my honest intentions. Not to sit and argue & be petty. It’s good to raise awareness. Is there going to be a tax on our healthcare system? Yes. Could there be a shortage of medical supplies? Yes. While there be a loss of life? Yes, sadly there already has been. Should there be a doom and gloom picture? No. The government isn’t perfect, but it has come a long way since 9/11 what is referred to as CBRNE (Chemical/Biological/Radiological/Nuclear/Explosive) response. Much is gleamed from each event that occurs, and since we are talking about Covid-19, events like the H1N1 and Ebola events helped shape the current response. There are official channels. I’m not in the federal loop, but it was passed down that there is double the number of N95 masks as once released via the media (not sure if the number should be released but the shortage was identified and fixed through official channels). Information like this is passed down to the states daily. Each state has their own produces, but for Florida, there are different daily conference calls for health departments, state agencies, emergency operation centers, etc. Sometimes in the field, we get daily updates, sometimes it is only a weekly update if everything is stable, but we aren’t in the dark. I have contacts to notify if there is an issue, but airing them publicly isn’t going to be productive for anyone, certainly if it causes panic or fear. On the contrary, fear can make it harder to do our jobs. We need things like bottled water for scene that are taxing physically like fires and vehicle extrications. We also need things like bleach for cleaning at the firehouse. Sadly, both of these are being rationed in Florida due to panic buying. We currently have a limited supply of water and a shortage of bleach because our normal suppliers were cleared out (a fix is already in place and to be restocked shortly). What am I doing with my family and telling friends that ask? Follow the guidelines from the Florida Department of Health or if they don’t live down here, the CDC. If exposed or infected, abide by a self quarantine or local imposed quarantine because breaking the transmission cycle will stop the virus. Italy had a surprisingly high spread curve, but with the national quarantine put in place yesterday, the number of new cases is low. The reasons why it was spreading have been identified, and are factored into current recommended practices here. Being aware, being responsible, being kind to your neighbor by not spreading anything to them will go a long way to moving this event into the history books as just another occurrence. 1
Frog Turds Posted March 13, 2020 Posted March 13, 2020 Lessons from Mers Professor Gye Cheol Kwon, the chairman of the Laboratory Medicine Foundation, calls this the Korean "bali bali" gene. Bali means quick in Korean. He says this because the South Koreans managed to design and create a test, set up a network of labs across the country and get it all to work in 17 days. But this has come from bitter experience. "We learned the risk of new infection and its ramifications from the experience of the Middle East Respiratory syndrome (Mers) back in 2015," he told me. Thirty-six people died in South Korea during the Mers outbreak. It forced the country to reassess its approach to infectious diseases. South Korea's Centres for Disease Control even set up a special department to prepare for the worst. In this case, that preparation appears to have paid off. "I think that early patient detection with accurate tests followed by isolation can lower the mortality rate and prevent the virus from spreading," said Prof Kwon. "To learn from the past and prepare systems in advance… that might be the true power to overcome this new kind of disaster." Role model There is no shortage of testing kits in South Korea. Four companies have been given approval to make them. It means the country has the capacity to test 140,000 samples a week. Prof Kwon believes the accuracy of South Korea's Covid-19 test is around 98%. The ability to test so many people has made the country a role model as others look to battle their own coronavirus outbreaks. 'Better to know' The preventative measures being taken in South Korea have so far involved no lockdowns, no ro***s and no restriction on movement. Trace, test and treat is the mantra. So far this country of over 50 million people have been doing their bit to help. Schools remain closed, offices are encouraging people to work from home, large gatherings have stopped. This may be the new normal for South Korea and elsewhere. But health officials are still on edge and warning there is no room for complacency. One large outbreak at a church, office, exercise class or apartment block can change everything. South Korea mobilized fast & efficiently, they mitigated this very effectively on all fronts. 40 minutes ago, Fishing_FF said: It’s good to raise awareness. Is there going to be a tax on our healthcare system? Yes. Could there be a shortage of medical supplies? Yes. While there be a loss of life? Yes, sadly there already has been. Should there be a doom and gloom picture? No. What am I doing with my family and telling friends that ask? Follow the guidelines from the Florida Department of Health or if they don’t live down here, the CDC. If exposed or infected, abide by a self quarantine or local imposed quarantine because breaking the transmission cycle will stop the virus. Italy had a surprisingly high spread curve, but with the national quarantine put in place yesterday, the number of new cases is low. The reasons why it was spreading have been identified, and are factored into current recommended practices here. Being aware, being responsible, being kind to your neighbor by not spreading anything to them will go a long way to moving this event into the history books as just another occurrence. I only shortened the quote to reduce the wall is all. That's a solid response, I completely respect that. I am not looking at this as a doom & gloom either. Its easy to get things misconstrued. This is one of those things, that we all need to chip in and do our part, not just for ourselves but for others. This can be an opportunity for great unity.
NittyGrittyBoy Posted March 13, 2020 Posted March 13, 2020 Idk about yall, but I've been quietly accumulating stock at relatively unheard of prices. Meanwhile back in D.C..... 7
Super User Koz Posted March 13, 2020 Super User Posted March 13, 2020 3 hours ago, lo n slo said: they’ve canceled the rec baseball season here in our hometown smh That stinks. Still no cancellations here but that may change. Went and saw the local HS varsity and JV teams play last night. The kid that was pitching is a Clemson commit and the #1 rated player in SC. There were at least 20 scouts watching him. I stayed through 4 innings and he had struck out 11, but 3 walks, 4 errors, 1 hit, 1 wild pitch, and one passed ball and we were down 2-1. My son had medical issues last fall and missed too much school to be able to play for his middle school team this year so we're hoping rec ball and travel ball aren't canceled later this spring. He's itching to play after a year off from team play. 1
GReb Posted March 13, 2020 Posted March 13, 2020 Now more than ever, support your local businesses and restaurants. They are about to take a major hit. Many won’t have the cash flow to survive. 2
OCdockskipper Posted March 13, 2020 Posted March 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Not_Here said: SEOUL, March 3 (Yonhap) -- Glead Sciences' experimental antiviral drug remdesivir is expected to be used... The ministry also allowed a locally-developed antiviral drug ... COVID-19 patients will be administered with a therapy called HzVSFv13, an injection-type of VSF developed by mid-sized bio firm ImmuneMed... ... given treatments to relieve their symptoms... ... Kaletra twice a day to elderly patients and those who show severe symptoms of the coronavirus. All either experimental drugs or things used to relieve symptoms - none of these are the cure for the virus. Heck, the "locally developed antiviral drug" may be nothing more than eye of newt and snout of pig. Again, I understand your intention to pass along information in order to keep people informed. The problem is if you go about saying there is a cure for the virus and then list the above witch doctors brew, you are misleading people. 1
BassResource.com Administrator Glenn Posted March 13, 2020 BassResource.com Administrator Posted March 13, 2020 Hey guys, let's refrain from posting anything related to a "cure" or "vaccine", medical "treatments" or anything of the like. There's just WAY TOO MUCH misinformation and hearsay out there to believe anything at this point. So there's no sense in adding to the confusion here...regardless of how "accurate" you may believe the source, or how plausible the treatment may seem. 3 5
Global Moderator 12poundbass Posted March 13, 2020 Global Moderator Posted March 13, 2020 And so it begins, there is a confirmed case in our county. An international traveler they’re saying but won’t say what town this person lives in. The wife heard rumblings yesterday from a nurse friend of hers that there were two people at the hospital getting tested. Today is the last day of school then they are shutting down for 3 weeks! We still have toilet paper. I will trade someone a couple rolls for an Ultrex. ? 8
Super User NHBull Posted March 13, 2020 Super User Posted March 13, 2020 8 hours ago, NittyGrittyBoy said: Idk about yall, but I've been quietly accumulating stock at relatively unheard of prices. Meanwhile back in D.C..... Luckily I went to cash a few weeks ago and jumped in put 1/2 back in yesterday. Pure luck...but maybe a pro v bass boat will be sitting in my driveway next Spring 2
Super User slonezp Posted March 13, 2020 Super User Posted March 13, 2020 Today's news reported congress is going to skip their spring recess so they can figure out how to take more out of our pockets. 5 1
Super User gim Posted March 13, 2020 Super User Posted March 13, 2020 15 hours ago, Fishing_FF said: he whole infections doubling every six days is nonsense, and here's the proof: China has 80,932 case with that number leveling out since the beginning of March (the 2nd to be exact). For a country with 1.386 BILLION people, it should have exponentially have grown. Instead, infection rate has slowed to about 100 cases a day. Where's the doubling, I mean it is 10 days later and China is still sitting at 80k cases. While I do believe you are correct that the rate is exaggerated, China was able to implement draconian measures to ensure the slowdown of the spread. That will almost certainly not happen here. We are not that type of government and I can only imagine the chaos if that was even attempted. 1
Super User Bird Posted March 13, 2020 Super User Posted March 13, 2020 10 hours ago, NittyGrittyBoy said: Idk about yall, but I've been quietly accumulating stock at relatively unheard of prices. Meanwhile back in D.C..... Hah, smart man. My wife is an highly educated woman, attorney and stock broker and said the wise are buying up. She claims fear always staggers the economy and this health epidemic will be short lived. 3
WVU-SCPA Posted March 13, 2020 Posted March 13, 2020 11 hours ago, NittyGrittyBoy said: Idk about yall, but I've been quietly accumulating stock at relatively unheard of prices. Did some options trading this week. So far so good but it can change in a heart beat. Plan to buy in once it settles some more.
Super User J Francho Posted March 13, 2020 Super User Posted March 13, 2020 Sub $2 gas! Fill up the boat. 3
Frog Turds Posted March 13, 2020 Posted March 13, 2020 11 hours ago, OCdockskipper said: The problem is if you go about saying there is a cure for the virus and then list the above witch doctors brew, you are misleading people. I never said there was a cure, human viruses have/use vaccines, those aren't cures either, as in they don't kill the virus. You asked reasons their numbers were down. I gave the various contributing factors for it. The one Ebola antiviral, has been used for awhile in China as well (around Feb 3rd), among others. "US, China and Italy are already using remdesivir on a compassionate basis to treat small numbers of patients with severe Covid-19. The first US patient, a 35-year-old man in Snohomish County, Washington, recovered, David Ho, a Columbia University professor and infectious disease specialist, agrees that remdesivir is the most promising candidate." Those antivirals are nuclease inhibitors, that's not exactly just what you call just treating symptoms. In the same way HIV antivirals inhibit replication. You honestly don't think using that powerful antiviral isn't contributing, along with the others? Don't know how you're twisting that as I'm misleading. How about you supplying data to counter it that those measures listed aren't working? Instead of simply stating your opinion and twisting what I've said, to discredit all those contributing factoring having a positive affect on SK's results.
Global Moderator 12poundbass Posted March 13, 2020 Global Moderator Posted March 13, 2020 16 minutes ago, J Francho said: Sub $2 gas! Fill up the boat. We’ve been at or below $2 for a week now. It’s been really nice.
Super User MN Fisher Posted March 13, 2020 Super User Posted March 13, 2020 We took a major drop - down to $2.40...which for us lately is a bargain. 1
Global Moderator 12poundbass Posted March 13, 2020 Global Moderator Posted March 13, 2020 12 hours ago, lo n slo said: last one, i promise We’ll keep the Beavis and Butthead theme going.... 2 2
Super User jbsoonerfan Posted March 13, 2020 Super User Posted March 13, 2020 I told the kids to be prepared to use their old socks, our extra tp is going on ebay. LOL 2
Super User J Francho Posted March 13, 2020 Super User Posted March 13, 2020 14 minutes ago, jbsoonerfan said: our extra tp is going on ebay college fund
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