Vision 110 Jr.

[JediAmoeba]

I have 7 or 8 Vision 110 Jr.'s and so far they are a huge disappointment.  Out of the 3 I have tried in cold weather, they float.  I am not talking about a slow rise, but they come right to the surface.  I tried these with the stock hooks to see how they are...even when you crank it, it only gets down to 2 or 3 feet.    

 

I got them to present a different offering than the pointer 78's that work very well and easily get down and suspend at 5 feet.  I can put on some heavier hooks and tweak it but for 20 bucks it should work out of the package.

 

Has anyone else had this issue?  

[jbsoonerfan]

What size line are you using? In my experience they would do that when I was using 12 lb mono. I had better luck throwing them on a spinning rod with 15 lb braid. I still don't like them nearly as much as a 110. In fact, I don't throw them at all much any more. 

[JediAmoeba]

2 minutes ago, jbsoonerfan said:

What size line are you using? In my experience they would do that when I was using 12 lb mono. I had better luck throwing them on a spinning rod with 15 lb braid. I still don't like them nearly as much as a 110. In fact, I don't throw them at all much any more. 

I am using 30lb braid to an 10lb fluoro leader.  The regular visions, the +1's and 2's have all worked great.  I like the smaller size for the small bass I catch and trout.

[Tizi]

Mine suspends, I am using 10 lb Invisx.  I have caught a bunch of fish (all kinds) on that size.

[camman]

I have a few older ones (straight eyes) and they work just fine.  I fish them off 20lb braid with a 10lb leader

[OkobojiEagle]

LC Slender Pointer 97... (down size the braid)

 

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[Logan S]

On the diving depth, I've noticed that if you overwork the 110Jr it doesn't get as deep and the action isn't as good...I find that I need to tone down my normal jerkbait cadence a little bit with it.  If really rip on it like do with the full size sometimes, it doesn't get more than 2' deep.  The bill is tiny so I think too much forward movement negates the diving.  

 

I haven't noticed any suspending issues with the ones I have.  I fish them on straight 10lb flouro on casting gear FWIW.  If you're using braid I can see it being really easy to overwork it, so maybe give it a try on straight flouro before giving up on them.  

[JediAmoeba]

2 hours ago, OkobojiEagle said:

(down size the braid)

I am using 30# maxquatro which is already pretty thin.

 

The leader I am using is at least 10' long.  I will throw on new hooks and give it a whirl on straight fluoro tomorrow. 

41 minutes ago, Logan S said:

On the diving depth, I've noticed that if you overwork the 110Jr it doesn't get as deep and the action isn't as good...I find that I need to tone down my normal jerkbait cadence a little bit with it.  If really rip on it like do with the full size sometimes, it doesn't get more than 2' deep.  The bill is tiny so I think too much forward movement negates the diving.  

 

I haven't noticed any suspending issues with the ones I have.  I fish them on straight 10lb flouro on casting gear FWIW.  If you're using braid I can see it being really easy to overwork it, so maybe give it a try on straight flouro before giving up on them.  

The 3 I have tried are definitely floating.  The water is relatively cold (39 degrees).  I am working them pretty slow. 

[Logan S]

11 minutes ago, JediAmoeba said:

The 3 I have tried are definitely floating.  The water is relatively cold (39 degrees).  I am working them pretty slow. 

39 is pretty cold, it's going to rise more than normal in water that cold.  When I'm fishing water that cold I keep suspend-strips or lead wire handy because I think all of my jerks will rise a bit more than normal (my Visions for sure do).  Colder water = more float.

 

Suspend-strip or a bit of lead wire wrapped on the center hook shank and it should keep it down.  

 

I think 39 is temp when water the most dense, so you're literally at the temperature where a jerkbait will float the most.