Mono for spinning reel

[Joe Shepherd]

2 minutes ago, jimmyjoe said:

 

   Set your drag medium. When you need an instantaneous "bite" to set the hook in awkward circumstances, put your middle finger down on the skirt of the spool, or use the free hand on the spool. Very effective.     jj

I have to set drag high with the superline gamakatsu hook to be consistent and then hope and pray they domt run at me so fast that I dont have time to twist the drag.. I caught a 23 pound cat on this same set up in 33 foot of water but had alot of line out and had time to adjust drag sometimes I dont have that option

1 minute ago, garroyo130 said:

Why superline hoook on mono? The purpose of superline hooks is so that they wont bend under the reduced stretch of braid ... 

 

Go to a thinner hook 

Weight

1 minute ago, Joe Shepherd said:

I have to set drag high with the superline gamakatsu hook to be consistent and then hope and pray they domt run at me so fast that I dont have time to twist the drag.. I caught a 23 pound cat on this same set up in 33 foot of water but had alot of line out and had time to adjust drag sometimes I dont have that option

Weight

I caught the cat on a t rig smaller hook but same line

[garroyo130]

Yeah it sounds like youre familiar/comfortable with this setup and know what youre doing

 

honestly you just need an SV spooled reel in your life at this point 

[Joe Shepherd]

8 minutes ago, soflabasser said:

I use Berkeley Big Game Mono on some of my spinning reels and it works great.

Yea I tried 15 and and it couldnt do it on a 4000 

[K1500]

Yozuri Hybrid 10# is as heavy as I like. The hybrid is quite a bit stronger than equivalent mono 10# I have used. More like a 12 or more. I use it on 2500 series reels with no problems. I have heard good things about nano-fill and spinners but I have never used it. 

[Joe Shepherd]

11 minutes ago, garroyo130 said:

Why superline hoook on mono? The purpose of superline hooks is so that they wont bend under the reduced stretch of braid ... 

 

Go to a thinner hook 

It wont ride level flukes dont work unless they float perfectly level after the pause 

[jimmyjoe]

   Found it! The guy using the 17 lb. Trilene XL on spinning gear was @haggard.      jj

[haggard]

3 minutes ago, jimmyjoe said:

   Found it! The guy using the 17 lb. Trilene XL on spinning gear was @haggard.      jj

LOL dang you're good. To clarify, when I say I use 17 lb Trilene XL on spinning gear it's for salt water fishing on heavier rods (such as 7'0 MH/F), slightly larger reels. I've never used 17 lb for freshwater bass.

 

[jimmyjoe]

38 minutes ago, haggard said:

LOL dang you're good. To clarify, when I say I use 17 lb Trilene XL on spinning gear it's for salt water fishing on heavier rods (such as 7'0 MH/F), slightly larger reels. I've never used 17 lb for freshwater bass.

 

   Ain't illegal, is it?   ? ?

   Might be this guy's answer.  Dunno. If it feeds good, that'll be one less problem from what he's got now.     jj

 

   You said you're using a MH/F Avid, which is rather stout. He might benefit from something like that, or he might already be using something like that. OP hasn't told us the length of rod he uses, nor the power and action. I know that a longer rod can take up line faster, controlling a fish that's charging the boat better than a shorter rod.

   He also has not told us exactly how he's losing fish. Because he keeps gravitating to heavier and heavier line, that makes me think abrasion has something to do with it. Or maybe when he says that he's "losing fish", what he means is that he can't set the hook on them fast enough, and they just get away.

   Although if that were true, he'd have no idea that they were 8 pounders, or 4 pounders, or whatever. So it sounds like he's getting a hookset, alright. He's getting resistance from the fish.

   It's almost like he's trying to use a 12 gauge to swat a big fly.

   Like I said, I dunno.       jj

[Bankbeater]

I use big game mono on my spinning reels, and I won't go over 10 lb.  Different lines have different memory and spool up differently. 

[soflabasser]

1 hour ago, Joe Shepherd said:

Yea I tried 15 and and it couldnt do it on a 4000 

Everyone has personal preferences so use what you like best. For me results is worth more than anything else when it comes to fishing. I have done great using Berkeley Big Game Mono on some of my spinning reels from size 4000 to size 8000. Have caught fish that weigh less than a pound to fish that weigh several hundred pounds on these spinning reels with Berkeley Big Game Mono. 

[waymont]

Not sure why your braid would knot up throwing any bait. I throw flukes, tiny crankbaits, trickworms, and hard jerkbaits without getting knots.

[Joe Shepherd]

2 hours ago, jimmyjoe said:

 

   Yes, but the OP already has line that SHOULD be plenty for what he's describing, and he already said that he has used braid, but wants something better. And he doesn't like using casting reels into the wind.

   Like I said ..... I dunno. I'm lost.      jj

Braid knots up from the semi slack line with the weightless fluke

[waymont]

1 minute ago, Joe Shepherd said:

Braid knots up from the semi slack line with the weightless fluke

Ok. Not sure what casting /lure technique you’re using that causes that. You can try a braid to 15-20lb leader which would be a little stiff to prevent any knots near the lure. That’s all I got for you.

[Joe Shepherd]

5 minutes ago, waymont said:

Not sure why your braid would knot up throwing any bait. I throw flukes, tiny crankbaits, trickworms, and hard jerkbaits without getting knots.

Cadence I dont know

[JediAmoeba]

3 hours ago, Joe Shepherd said:

When they run to the boat so fast you cant do anything but reel in slack and your drag is a low as you wanna go for the hookset its a problem

Sounds like you need a high speed reel.  Like a baitcaster.

 

What rod and reel are you using?  If the line roller is a piece of crap it can cause a lot of problems.  

[haggard]

12 hours ago, jimmyjoe said:

   It's almost like he's trying to use a 12 gauge to swat a big fly. 

That actually sounds kinda fun. Kids, don't try this at home ?

[Russ E]

12 hours ago, Joe Shepherd said:

It wont ride level flukes dont work unless they float perfectly level after the pause 

I have been fishing super flukes and sluggos for 30 years. they balance fine on light wire hooks. They will slowly sink.

If you are using a heavy hook they are not floating. They sink like a rock.

If I am fishing shallow I will use the fine wire hook.

If I want to get down deeper i will use a weighted hook or a heavy hook, but you have to adjust your tackle accordingly.

If I want to get 10 feet or deeper I will put it on a mojo rig.

 

I would never use a superline hook on a medium action spinning setup. I would also not use a fine wire hook on a flipping stick with heavy line.

 

In regards to baitcasters not being able to cast the fluke very far. I use a Diawa Tatula SV. it will sling a super fluke with a fine wire hook a long way, with 14 pound sunline sniper. Even in the wind.

 

One other thing to consider is if you use heavier line it will affect the action of a fluke.

 

Lastly. If your tackle is not balanced you will lose fish!!!! Really is no way around it.

[Mobasser]

If your set on using heavier mono line on your spinning reels, try this. Clip the line onto your spool, remove the spool and soak it in lukewarm water for 1 to 2hrs before you go fishing. You can soak it overnight if you want to. This makes stiffer mono lines loosen up, and handle better, especially if you've had your reel spoiled for a while. 

[J Francho]

15 hours ago, JediAmoeba said:

Sounds like you need a high speed reel.  Like a baitcaster.

Large spool spinning reels are faster than most fast baitcasters.  Anyway, sounds like braid and a leader would probably be the best solution for the OP.  I'm sure there's an excuse for why that won't work either, though.  I throw flukes on a 20# braid with a 10# leader on a stiffer than usual spinning rod and 2500 class reel that takes up 35 IPT.  Works fine for my bass up here, though they're half as big. 

[Paul Roberts]

If it has to be a spinning reel for .015 line or better, then you need a large-spooled reel, a 40/4000, or better. You might look at the wide spool reels; I believe Pflueger and BPS offer them. I have some of the (now defunct) USReels spinners and the 40 size handles .015 ok.

 

Not sure what braids you've used, but some are softer, and apt to knot, then others are. There is a line out there called Windtamer, by FINS, that may help, although I've not used it.