Daiwa Fuego - Need Help!!

[Marauder491]

Hey everyone, I am new to the forum and could use a little assistance.  I have been following your posts for quite a while but haven't needed to reach out with a question of my own until now.  I purchased this Daiwa Fuego 2500 last year and have been having some issues with the line wrapping around the outside of the spool.  Originally I was only having this problem fishing a weightless Senko and figured the weight, or lack thereof was the problem.  I switched up to a weighted mushroom style head for Ned Rig fishing (1/5th ounce) and was having the same issue.  I had 20 pound break strength Berkley Fireline (8 pound mono equiv) on at the time and thought that might be the issue so I stripped it off before the end of season last year.  

 

This year I spooled on 30 pound break strength Suffix 832 (8 pound mono equiv) and went out fishing last weekend with the same weighted mushroom head (1/5th ounce).  I had the exact same issue I did last year and cannot figure out why this is happening.  I have been fishing with Shimano spinning reels for years and years without ever experiencing this issue.  I thought I would try the Daiwa out because I really liked how balanced it felt but now I am wondering what is going on.  

 

I have been spooling line for many years and am aware of how to put line on spinning reels to avoid line twists.  I have not see any line twists while use the Daiwa and do not think that is the problem, in my opinion.  I called Daiwa and they want me to spend $30 sending the reel in for inspection which could take up to three weeks to get back once it is received.  I spoke with another customer service rep who suggested there was a burr or defect in the eyelet on the rod which was causing the line to have resistance.  This year I was using a brand new Dobyns Champion so I know the eyelets are good.  

 

I have no idea if this is a fault of my own or a fault of the reel.  I believe this reel is good quality and am not trying to bash the Daiwa corporation in any way, I just want to go fishing without having this happen.  

 

I have attached a picture and if you can lend me a hand it would be greatly appreciated.  

 

Thanks.. 

[Tim Kelly]

You need to remove a spacer washer from under the spool. Daiwas should spool the line either level or slightly tapered forward, yours is tapered backwards.  Thinner braid would probably be easier to use too, the stuff you have on looks very coarse.

[A-Jay]

Hello and Welcome to Bass Resource ~ 

Here's is my recommendation.

There's probably nothing wrong with the reel.

If I were going to fish the baits, techniques you listed above, I would use 10 lb Sufix 832 braid for a mainline.

That 30 lb is IMO too much.

Next, there are two factors that contribute to the line falling down off the bottom of the spool.

One is too much line on the spool and the second is when a retrieve is made with a super light bait and there is no tension on the line, and when the reel is being held with the rod tip up, gravity takes over and the line is spun onto the base of the spool rather than up where you'd want it.

 Actions to correct this are, be conscious to keep tension on the line - especially the first few turns of the reel handle after the cast, hold your rod parallel to the water rather than tips up, and don't over fill your spool so the line has somewhere to go. 

  That should 'fix' the problem.

A-Jay

 

 

 

[Marauder491]

Ok, both of those comments make sense.  I will try removing one of the washers from the reel and also make sure there is tension on the line directly after casting.  I was just curious why I have used this line combination in the past with Shimano reels and have not had this issue.  Maybe taking out a washer to have the line lay more evenly will help.

 

I usually use 8 pound maxima line on my spinning gear unless it's my crappie rod so I just figured using the 30 pound break strength with an 8 pound mono equivalent would be the same.  I can also try using a lighter line but I was worried it would make the problem worst.

 

Thanks for the suggestions!!  

[iabass8]

tim kelly is correct. adjusted the spacers under the spool. 

[Marauder491]

I'll have to research removing the spacer under the spool so I don't grenade the whole thing.  I'm glad I reached out before sending the reel out for repair work that didn't need to be done..

[iabass8]

11 minutes ago, Marauder491 said:

I'll have to research removing the spacer under the spool so I don't grenade the whole thing.  I'm glad I reached out before sending the reel out for repair work that didn't need to be done..

it's very simple, unscrew the drag knob ontop of the spool until it comes completely off . pull the spool off the shaft and adjust the spacers. 

[JediAmoeba]

One thing you should always do IMO, with tension on the line after you make your cast and before you start the retrieve, is manually engage the bail.  I see some people reel to trip it and that's asking for trouble.  

[Marauder491]

Yep, I am a manual bail engager!!  I will work on the spool washer this evening, thanks for the instructions iabass8!

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1 hour ago, Tim Kelly said:

You need to remove a spacer washer from under the spool. Daiwas should spool the line either level or slightly tapered forward, yours is tapered backwards.  Thinner braid would probably be easier to use too, the stuff you have on looks very coarse.

 

1 hour ago, iabass8 said:

tim kelly is correct. adjusted the spacers under the spool. 

Yes, do this^.

I had this same problem with an old Shimano Sedona only it was just the opposite. I had to add a washer.

[The Bassman]

Refill your spool as @A-Jayrecommended. I like to fill my spools about 3/4 full with whatever I have that's cheap or old then top shot with my braid. Spool it fairly tight then see if your line lay is level. Then if you need to adjust washers it's not as simple as mentioned on Daiwas. There's a very small clear o-ring on the main shaft that (for me) is a challenge to take off and replace. Some guys just tear it off. It only serves to retain the washers if you tip the reel down with the spool off. Your pic doesn't convince me that your line lay is off, just loose and unmanaged. I keep my line snug by holding my index finger down so that it makes light contact with the line as I retrieve.

[garroyo130]

24 minutes ago, The Bassman said:

Your pic doesn't convince me that your line lay is off, just loose and unmanaged.

 

Where is your rod tip pointing when youre reeling in w/out a fish on the line? 

 

Holding the rod more vertical with slack line presentations will do that to you 

[jbrew73]

Lines too big or get a casting outfit.  

[Marauder491]

Well Bassman I believe you are correct. I took the spacer out and respooled only to have the line stacked way towards the front or drag end of the spool. I put everything back the way I found it and when i put the line back on it still seemed a little more towards the front which i thought was ok.

 

I took a 1/4 practice weight my son was using for casting in the backyard and tied it on. I took about a dozen casts and the line seemed to lay down perfect. I didn't have the line wrap around the spool but the 1/4 ounce weight dragging on the ground was more friction than i had last weekend in the water.

 

I bought some smaller diameter braid, will not spool it as full and will watch the angle of my rod when casting light baits. I am in consensus with a lot of the posts and will take a trial and error approach.

 

Thanks for the feedback, it's much appreciated.

 

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

I think there’s more at play here than line lay. I don’t think shims are the answer, at least not completely. I’d definitely tighten it up in the spool and try to keep some tension when retrieving. Ripping the light baits in might be throwing enough slack into the line to cause those loose loops.